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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 06:13:02
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Rehab decay is based on the total amount of addiction you have gained over time - this is obviously reflected in how much addiction you have rehabbed over time as well but I don't necessarily think actual visits to rehab have anything to do with it.


How do you know it depends on the addiction gained and not the rehab sessions done?
This is not equivalent, since you could for example accumulate a lot of addiction, then get rid of it by R&R.

Would be interesting if someone actually never rehabbed and only used R&R and see if they experience rehab decay or if they count (for the rehab center) as having taken 0 drugs.


it's based on rehab sessions, the amount of times you spend 250k rehabbing. Ched has said that after about 400 sessions you will have to pay twice as much to get clean.

This also means that the price rises exponentially, since the higher you get, the more sessions you need, the faster it grows.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 06:28:45
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Rehab decay is based on the total amount of addiction you have gained over time - this is obviously reflected in how much addiction you have rehabbed over time as well but I don't necessarily think actual visits to rehab have anything to do with it.


How do you know it depends on the addiction gained and not the rehab sessions done?
This is not equivalent, since you could for example accumulate a lot of addiction, then get rid of it by R&R.

Would be interesting if someone actually never rehabbed and only used R&R and see if they experience rehab decay or if they count (for the rehab center) as having taken 0 drugs.


it's based on rehab sessions, the amount of times you spend 250k rehabbing. Ched has said that after about 400 sessions you will have to pay twice as much to get clean.

This also means that the price rises exponentially, since the higher you get, the more sessions you need, the faster it grows.


So you would end up paying the same regardless of whether you rehab once a day or once a year, right?

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 06:37:05
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Rehab decay is based on the total amount of addiction you have gained over time - this is obviously reflected in how much addiction you have rehabbed over time as well but I don't necessarily think actual visits to rehab have anything to do with it.


How do you know it depends on the addiction gained and not the rehab sessions done?
This is not equivalent, since you could for example accumulate a lot of addiction, then get rid of it by R&R.

Would be interesting if someone actually never rehabbed and only used R&R and see if they experience rehab decay or if they count (for the rehab center) as having taken 0 drugs.


it's based on rehab sessions, the amount of times you spend 250k rehabbing. Ched has said that after about 400 sessions you will have to pay twice as much to get clean.

This also means that the price rises exponentially, since the higher you get, the more sessions you need, the faster it grows.


So you would end up paying the same regardless of whether you rehab once a day or once a year, right?




Let's say the first time you ever rehab it takes 1000 sessions to get clean. You're now at 3x decay, where as if in the same time frame you went 100 times, it would be 10 sessions at first, then after 40 trips it's 20, then after 20 trips it's 30, etc... You end up with more sessions going more often because of the rising cost.

Also, this assumes it's steps every 400 sessions and not a gradual rise (which is what the original announcement sounds like).

Plus you would lose some of the addiction naturally over time, although I don't know how that happens.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 06:44:17
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Bogie may have a drug guide, and if it says people will not become addicted using vicodin he is wrong.


Maybe you should try actually reading my 4 year old guide before making ridiculous statements like that... I don't at any point say anything of the sort...

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 07:39:23
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Rehab decay is based on the total amount of addiction you have gained over time - this is obviously reflected in how much addiction you have rehabbed over time as well but I don't necessarily think actual visits to rehab have anything to do with it.


How do you know it depends on the addiction gained and not the rehab sessions done?
This is not equivalent, since you could for example accumulate a lot of addiction, then get rid of it by R&R.

Would be interesting if someone actually never rehabbed and only used R&R and see if they experience rehab decay or if they count (for the rehab center) as having taken 0 drugs.


it's based on rehab sessions, the amount of times you spend 250k rehabbing. Ched has said that after about 400 sessions you will have to pay twice as much to get clean.

This also means that the price rises exponentially, since the higher you get, the more sessions you need, the faster it grows.


So you would end up paying the same regardless of whether you rehab once a day or once a year, right?




Let's say the first time you ever rehab it takes 1000 sessions to get clean. You're now at 3x decay, where as if in the same time frame you went 100 times, it would be 10 sessions at first, then after 40 trips it's 20, then after 20 trips it's 30, etc... You end up with more sessions going more often because of the rising cost.

Also, this assumes it's steps every 400 sessions and not a gradual rise (which is what the original announcement sounds like).

Plus you would lose some of the addiction naturally over time, although I don't know how that happens.



So R&R can help to prevent rehab cost from increasing, based on that theory..? right? at least slow down the increase?


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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 07:45:02
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Rehab decay is based on the total amount of addiction you have gained over time - this is obviously reflected in how much addiction you have rehabbed over time as well but I don't necessarily think actual visits to rehab have anything to do with it.


How do you know it depends on the addiction gained and not the rehab sessions done?
This is not equivalent, since you could for example accumulate a lot of addiction, then get rid of it by R&R.

Would be interesting if someone actually never rehabbed and only used R&R and see if they experience rehab decay or if they count (for the rehab center) as having taken 0 drugs.


it's based on rehab sessions, the amount of times you spend 250k rehabbing. Ched has said that after about 400 sessions you will have to pay twice as much to get clean.

This also means that the price rises exponentially, since the higher you get, the more sessions you need, the faster it grows.


So you would end up paying the same regardless of whether you rehab once a day or once a year, right?




Let's say the first time you ever rehab it takes 1000 sessions to get clean. You're now at 3x decay, where as if in the same time frame you went 100 times, it would be 10 sessions at first, then after 40 trips it's 20, then after 20 trips it's 30, etc... You end up with more sessions going more often because of the rising cost.

Also, this assumes it's steps every 400 sessions and not a gradual rise (which is what the original announcement sounds like).

Plus you would lose some of the addiction naturally over time, although I don't know how that happens.


has a natural decay in addiction actually been proved or is it a myth?


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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 08:10:21
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Rehab decay is based on the total amount of addiction you have gained over time - this is obviously reflected in how much addiction you have rehabbed over time as well but I don't necessarily think actual visits to rehab have anything to do with it.


How do you know it depends on the addiction gained and not the rehab sessions done?
This is not equivalent, since you could for example accumulate a lot of addiction, then get rid of it by R&R.

Would be interesting if someone actually never rehabbed and only used R&R and see if they experience rehab decay or if they count (for the rehab center) as having taken 0 drugs.


it's based on rehab sessions, the amount of times you spend 250k rehabbing. Ched has said that after about 400 sessions you will have to pay twice as much to get clean.

This also means that the price rises exponentially, since the higher you get, the more sessions you need, the faster it grows.


So you would end up paying the same regardless of whether you rehab once a day or once a year, right?




Let's say the first time you ever rehab it takes 1000 sessions to get clean. You're now at 3x decay, where as if in the same time frame you went 100 times, it would be 10 sessions at first, then after 40 trips it's 20, then after 20 trips it's 30, etc... You end up with more sessions going more often because of the rising cost.

Also, this assumes it's steps every 400 sessions and not a gradual rise (which is what the original announcement sounds like).

Plus you would lose some of the addiction naturally over time, although I don't know how that happens.


has a natural decay in addiction actually been proved or is it a myth?


I've tested and proven it to exist and intended to write it into my guide once I had some more polished results.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 08:27:55
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Bogie may have a drug guide, and if it says people will not become addicted using vicodin he is wrong.


Maybe you should try actually reading my 4 year old guide before making ridiculous statements like that... I don't at any point say anything of the sort...


My point exactly. If you use drugs you will become addicted. Any drug! Some more quicker than others.



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You have purchased a membership to The Sports Science Lab.


For real?

Why do I have to rehab on vicodin if it doesn't count towards the drug free gym?



Err - vicodin never did count for the drug free gym. Rehabbing also never counted towards using the drug free gym - just the number of xanax, ecstasy and possibly some other energy / happy boosting drugs you've used (although we obviously don't have any drug free players game enough to try other drugs out to see if using them would get them kicked from the drug free gym).

For the record you don't really have to rehab on vico, apart from avoiding education kick of course but even that takes a minimum of 30-35 vico (if you're not in a faction that has any hermetic upgrades).

With your faction's hermetic IX you might not even need to bother rehabbing at all unless you're taking multiple vicos per day.




I am not talking about the drug free gym, since I am using it atm and I have used vicodin in the past, I refuse to take it now because it is still addictive.
You will lose star ratings using vicodin if you do not rehab. The number of usage and before rehab depends on your factions bonus if any.

From the Bogie's drug guide:

Vicodin:


2vct7o4.png = 12 Vicodin
Education kick = 28 Vicodin
Glass door = 45 Vicodin
Percentage addiction = 3.6% <------------------------So when Butter says you don't have to rehab he is full of crap!


And darn right I am hoping druggies gets screwed over in the next update when it comes to addictions, that is my opinion and I have a right to it. I am tired of reading how unfair rehab is. I say NUKE IT(rehab) THIS TIME! Make it not available for a year.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 08:35:51
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has a natural decay in addiction actually been proved or is it a myth?


I've tested and proven it to exist and intended to write it into my guide once I had some more polished results.


When my rehab bill reached 10m, I stopped taking drugs for about a month. Then took 6 xanax and rehab cost was back to 5m.
I'm sorry now that I didn't write down the exact number of days I was drug-free.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 09:48:21
Category 4 touching 5

I take 16 Xanax between rehabs so I don't get kicked from my education class. It costs me in the mid/high 30m range now. It used to be 24m-25m and its been steady creeping up for a while now, at this rate it'll be in the 40m's in a few months




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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 09:57:09
i really think what makes rehab (sometimes) so expensive is how often you see the result...
ive got a friend only bit younger in torn-days than iam. in our early days he did much more drugs than i , meanwhile its like 2100xan on my side against 1400 on his , but only 350vic for me while hes over 700.
overall hes taken 300 drugs more than i did ,mainly because of 550 cannabis used to train
he did the mistake to care about his jobstars too much and so he rehabbed like every second day (sometimes already after 2or3 xanax). but he also did the mistake to "single-rehab" , means he did it one by one ,paying 250k each time and if the result said that he lost 85-90% of his addiction he flew back and "saved" one rehab/250k.
i never single-clicked (im rather lazy) and as far as i remember only 3 times i couldnt fully rehab cause i forgot my money.
i only have to pay 14m after 17xan
my friends bill was at 140m few weeks ago , after spending a bit all of his money he still had 50% addiction left, after that he did sth like 10-15drugs and his rehab-cost bounced back to 140m
he has to pay about 7m per xanax while im glad to pay only 0.8m...
still just a theory ,but what makes me feel safe about it, is the fact that hes a rl-friend and were comparing(competing) our digital pegos for about 2k days meanwhile

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:38:13
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How do you know it depends on the addiction gained and not the rehab sessions done?
This is not equivalent, since you could for example accumulate a lot of addiction, then get rid of it by R&R.


They're pretty much one and the same, the amount of addiction you've gained during a drug taking cycle (ie. since your last rehab) dictates how many 250k rehabs you have to do. The R&R special obviously lowers the amount of addiction you've accrued in your current drug taking cycle. So does the natural (small) daily decrease in your addiction level.

In summary we are talking about the same thing. I firmly believe that it is the addiction you've gained which dictates how much addiction a 250k rehab removes (and thus flows into your rehab decay calculation).

If it was strictly based on the number of 250k rehabs you have done previously then starting from zero xanax taken you could take as many xanax as you liked and then pay virtually nothing for it when you eventually did decide to rehab. That just doesn't happen.

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it's based on rehab sessions, the amount of times you spend 250k rehabbing.


Again the number of 250k rehabs you have done is tied to / controlled by the amount of addiction you have gained / had to rehab over time. I don't believe that it is the rehabs you've done in the past that dictates your current rehab cost (or alterntively now much addiction a 250k rehab removes), rather it's the addiction you've accrued / had to rehab over time that dictates the effectiveness of a single 250k rehab.

Ched has said that after about 400 sessions you will have to pay twice as much to get clean.


I think you slipped up there JJ - Ched said it was about 400 xanax worth of addiction which increases your rehab decay to the point where it doubles your rehab cost compared to what you are currently paying, not 400 250k rehabs.

This also means that the price rises exponentially, since the higher you get, the more sessions you need, the faster it grows.


That's correct, although not quite at the rate you mentioned above - if rehab costs doubled with each additional 400 250k rehabs you did then my rehab costs would be set to double in about 2 weeks (after an additional 50 or so xanax taken) given what I'm paying now. That's clearly wrong.



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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:46:44
category 4, 30m per 10 xanax.
bank interest + hermetic help alot.

Now that i'm older, i thought it was great that i seemed to have more patience.

turns out i just don't give a shit.
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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:17:00
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You will lose star ratings using vicodin if you do not rehab. The number of usage and before rehab depends on your factions bonus if any.

From the Bogie's drug guide:

Vicodin:


2vct7o4.png = 12 Vicodin
Education kick = 28 Vicodin
Glass door = 45 Vicodin
Percentage addiction = 3.6% <------------------------So when Butter says you don't have to rehab he is full of crap!


Seriously I'm starting to think you're just plain stupid. I'll humour you though and try to explain it all so that you can see how it really works.

First you need to throw in the effects of hermetic IX like the poster I replied to had and that relative addiction gain drops to 1.9%. Now factor in the minor natural daily decrease in addiction (which I estimate to be somewhere around 1% per day) and you're looking at less than a 1% increase in addiction per vico taken (relative to a 100% education kick level).

Now I can tell you for a fact that takes a relative addiction figure of at least 30-35% before you drop from 5 stars to 4 stars in a company job (because I've been seeing it for a long time myself) - so you're looking at over a month before you even drop to 4 stars. Now if you're not an every day chainer who is chaining for an extended period (eg. you take a few days off here and there or your war periods don't last longer than 5-6 weeks) then you probably wont even get to that point.

Is that bloody clear enough for you now you simpleton?

If it's not then even in my faction we had quite a few members who were only taking vicodin for chains 4-5 times a week and not only didn't they lose star ratings in their company jobs, in one auspicious example (probably the most active chainer out of the lot of them) he didn't even have any addiction to rehab when he went at the end of a 7-8 week warring period.

And darn right I am hoping druggies gets screwed over in the next update when it comes to addictions, that is my opinion and I have a right to it. I am tired of reading how unfair rehab is. I say NUKE IT(rehab) THIS TIME! Make it not available for a year.


And now we cut to the chase at last - just can't help pissing and moaning about how unfair it is for non-druggies can you.

I'll humour you again - as long as the sports science lab is taken away from non druggies and they're scaled back to 20e per hour instead of 30e then you have a deal. After all apart from a handful of notables (they know who they are) non-druggies as whole really haven't done anything to deserve anything (except doing nothing), so if druggies are having their game play restricted then the same should be done to non-druggies.

Hell even if non-druggies were allowed to go around doing business as usual while druggies were going without rehab you're not going to gain much ground on druggies really even if they give up xanax altogether and even with the sports science gym at your disposal (we debunked that notion in another thread a while back).

In the meantime I wonder what all the rich druggies will do with the cash they're still going to be making if they're not spending it on rehab bills, because it's not as if the income they've set up for themselves to support their expensive drug habit is going to suddenly grind to a halt...

(hint: you're still going to be on the losing end of the stick)

It'd be nice if this got back on topic now - it goes without saying (now that you have been schooled in things you previously had no idea whatsoever about) that discontinuing your anti-druggie trolling here would be a good start, as you have bugger all to contribute to the discussion of how druggies are managing their rehab costs and where they are currently at.




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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:25:57
category 8 almost falling into 9 , i don't rehab often even tho just 18 xanax recently costed me a fortune ...i usually get in swisse once every few months , hardly paying less then 750 mills at flight...this is getting ridicolous, considering even that long time capped stats don't make such a big deal out of all those xanax used



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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:40:57
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You will lose star ratings using vicodin if you do not rehab. The number of usage and before rehab depends on your factions bonus if any.

From the Bogie's drug guide:

Vicodin:


2vct7o4.png = 12 Vicodin
Education kick = 28 Vicodin
Glass door = 45 Vicodin
Percentage addiction = 3.6% <------------------------So when Butter says you don't have to rehab he is full of crap!


Seriously I'm starting to think you're just plain stupid. I'll humour you though and try to explain it all so that you can see how it really works.

First you need to throw in the effects of hermetic IX like the poster I replied to had and that relative addiction gain drops to 1.9%. Now factor in the minor natural daily decrease in addiction (which I estimate to be somewhere around 1% per day) and you're looking at less than a 1% increase in addiction per vico taken (relative to a 100% education kick level).

Now I can tell you for a fact that takes a relative addiction figure of at least 30-35% before you drop from 5 stars to 4 stars in a company job (because I've been seeing it for a long time myself) - so you're looking at over a month before you even drop to 4 stars. Now if you're not an every day chainer who is chaining for an extended period (eg. you take a few days off here and there or your war periods don't last longer than 5-6 weeks) then you probably wont even get to that point.

Is that bloody clear enough for you now you simpleton?

If it's not then even in my faction we had quite a few members who were only taking vicodin for chains 4-5 times a week and not only didn't they lose star ratings in their company jobs, in one auspicious example (probably the most active chainer out of the lot of them) he didn't even have any addiction to rehab when he went at the end of a 7-8 week warring period.

And darn right I am hoping druggies gets screwed over in the next update when it comes to addictions, that is my opinion and I have a right to it. I am tired of reading how unfair rehab is. I say NUKE IT(rehab) THIS TIME! Make it not available for a year.


And now we cut to the chase at last - just can't help pissing and moaning about how unfair it is for non-druggies can you.

I'll humour you again - as long as the sports science lab is taken away from non druggies and they're scaled back to 20e per hour instead of 30e then you have a deal. After all apart from a handful notables notables (they know who they are) non-druggies as whole really haven't done anything to deserve anything (except doing nothing), so if druggies are having their game play restricted then the same should be done to non-druggies.

Hell even if you were allowed to go around doing business as usual while druggies were going without rehab even without rehab you're not going to gain much ground on druggies really even with the sports science gym at your disposal (we debunked that notion in another thread a while back).

In the meantime I wonder what all the rich druggies will do with the cash they're still going to be making if they're not spending it on rehab bills, because it's not as if the income they've set up for themselves to support their expensive drug habit is going to suddenly grind to a halt...

(hint: you're still going to be on the losing end of the stick)

It'd be nice if this got back on topic now - it goes without saying (now that you have been schooled in things you previously had no idea whatsoever about) that discontinuing your anti-druggie trolling here would be a good start, as you have bugger all to contribute to the discussion of how druggies are managing their rehab costs and where they are currently at.





Before you call anyone names you better get your facts straight! You said people would not have to rehab when using vicodin. You did not me! YOU ARE WRONG! If employees want to keep the 5 star rating you will have to remain drug-free or rehab. PLAIN AND SIMPLE its not open to interpretation.


I am tired of reading all of the whining about how much it costs, if you cant afford it STOP USING!

I am not whining its the players who are complaining how much its costing. Whining to CHED via forums wont change his over all plan that he WARNED EVERYONE years ago. If people choose not to listen SUCK IT UP!

I don't understand when people know they are wrong the have to resort to calling names like that makes them sound really mature and important. Youngsters now a days.



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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:44:08
Guys please keep on topic.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 13:05:23
I don't know which category I am but I think I am in category 1.
It cost me about 7 mil for 15 xanax. Which costs me 512mil per year atm.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 15:17:09
I'm at 1,75m per xanax atm with just under 1800 xanax taken

Almost puts me in category 3..

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 15:23:39
Guess who doesnt rehab opts out also.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 15:26:35
Around 5.5 million per Xanax it's getting to the point where I can't afford it!

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 20:50:57
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You have purchased a membership to The Sports Science Lab.


For real?

Why do I have to rehab on vicodin if it doesn't count towards the drug free gym?



Err - vicodin never did count for the drug free gym. Rehabbing also never counted towards using the drug free gym - just the number of xanax, ecstasy and possibly some other energy / happy boosting drugs you've used (although we obviously don't have any drug free players game enough to try other drugs out to see if using them would get them kicked from the drug free gym).

For the record you don't really have to rehab on vico, apart from avoiding education kick of course but even that takes a minimum of 30-35 vico (if you're not in a faction that has any hermetic upgrades).

With your faction's hermetic IX you might not even need to bother rehabbing at all unless you're taking multiple vicos per day.




When we war I'm usually on vico non stop. Chains are there to be kept alive. Rehab is definitely necessary just not as frequently. I start losing to people with significantly lower stats otherwise although that may be the random attack system.



It's interesting that you say that they've never counted, because I'm pretty sure that wasn't always known, at least to the wider community.

There was an initial feeling that you had to have taken zero, then the last discussion I saw on the subject was that you could take enough to get the merit. Now it's apparent from the evidence that vicodin doesn't count at all. I may have missed a post or many elsewhere.

I had a lengthy discussion with Leukybear about the contributing cost of vicodin to rehab. It was in a thread about the drug free gym. Whilst he vehemently objected to my viewpoint on the matter, nobody suggested that the drug free gym was available to vicodin abusers.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 20:57:38
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Seriously?


Yes, I never rehabbed at all..

Drugs used: 2,383
Times overdosed: 91 (3.8%)

those are not total since ched added this counter much after drugs.

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Posted on Mon Jan 13, 2014 22:00:54
0 - sport science lab gymming.

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Posted on Tue Jan 14, 2014 01:28:18
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How do you know it depends on the addiction gained and not the rehab sessions done?
This is not equivalent, since you could for example accumulate a lot of addiction, then get rid of it by R&R.


They're pretty much one and the same, the amount of addiction you've gained during a drug taking cycle (ie. since your last rehab) dictates how many 250k rehabs you have to do. The R&R special obviously lowers the amount of addiction you've accrued in your current drug taking cycle. So does the natural (small) daily decrease in your addiction level.

In summary we are talking about the same thing. I firmly believe that it is the addiction you've gained which dictates how much addiction a 250k rehab removes (and thus flows into your rehab decay calculation).

If it was strictly based on the number of 250k rehabs you have done previously then starting from zero xanax taken you could take as many xanax as you liked and then pay virtually nothing for it when you eventually did decide to rehab. That just doesn't happen.

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it's based on rehab sessions, the amount of times you spend 250k rehabbing.


Again the number of 250k rehabs you have done is tied to / controlled by the amount of addiction you have gained / had to rehab over time. I don't believe that it is the rehabs you've done in the past that dictates your current rehab cost (or alterntively now much addiction a 250k rehab removes), rather it's the addiction you've accrued / had to rehab over time that dictates the effectiveness of a single 250k rehab.

Ched has said that after about 400 sessions you will have to pay twice as much to get clean.


I think you slipped up there JJ - Ched said it was about 400 xanax worth of addiction which increases your rehab decay to the point where it doubles your rehab cost compared to what you are currently paying, not 400 250k rehabs.

This also means that the price rises exponentially, since the higher you get, the more sessions you need, the faster it grows.


That's correct, although not quite at the rate you mentioned above - if rehab costs doubled with each additional 400 250k rehabs you did then my rehab costs would be set to double in about 2 weeks (after an additional 50 or so xanax taken) given what I'm paying now. That's clearly wrong.



From:http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=1&ID=7138891

By Chedburn [1]
- Rehab decay: Weve added a system which will prevent Swiss rehab from working as well after many, many uses. This is a very, very slow decay and has only been put in place for the very long term future of Torn. You wont notice a difference unless you use drugs extremely hardcore for the next 6 months, after that, youll gradually find yourself spending more money at rehab. To put a number on it, once youve used rehab around 400 times, it will become twice as expensive. This decay will not gradually fall and is permanent, but rises very slowly.


It says rehab, not xanax. It also doesn't say it's going to double every 400, just the first 400... If it was to double every 400 sessions, the decay would be way too severe for those of us paying around 100mil/week (400 sessions). What I meant by exponential decay is that it takes more sessions to remove the same amount of addiction. So the first 400 sessions may take a year, the second 400 would take 6 months (because you need to do twice as many sessions), then the third would take 4 months. Eventually, you're doing 400+ sessions a week.

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Posted on Tue Jan 14, 2014 01:47:11
I'm positive that Ched has clarified the rate of rehab decay since the initial announcement and mentioned specifically that it takes about 400 xanax worth of addiction to double your rehab costs (note that xanax was just used as an example there).

I'll hunt down a link later - too hard to do on phone.

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Posted on Tue Jan 14, 2014 02:55:24
Every 14th xanax I rehab costing me 5.5mil right now. So every 5 days it cost me 5.5mil + 830k per xaxax totaling =17.1mil per 5 days so roughly 1.3bil a year. But of course that price will continue to rise.

So I'm guessing category 2

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Posted on Tue Jan 14, 2014 04:05:08
I don't know or care about the chart you have. Don't have the time nor do I want to try and figure it out.

I just don't care, LOL. All I know is it's expensive.

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Posted on Wed Jan 15, 2014 05:42:16
im pretty sure some people should just pop Xanax and quit arguing..


where's my glass of water...

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Posted on Wed Jan 15, 2014 06:54:07
Still in category 1

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