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Posted on Mon Jul 15, 2013 14:06:46
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Ok, a question.

if you change all those job points at once, you'll get the increased rate based on the starting amount of defence.

So, wouldn't it be better (I know it'd take much longer) to use 1 point at a time, since the increased amount of defence after using each army point would slowly make each point worth a little more?

or doesn't it make any difference?


Yes if u use 1 at a time you would get a little more, but remember with the happy up to high at the maximum he has 15mins with that happy to use all the job points, so he cant really use 1k job points in 15mins, maybe if he spreed them out over the 15mins say uses 50, or 100 points at a time then he would have got more



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Posted on Mon Jul 15, 2013 18:50:29
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By CaptainObvious [1019122]
Ok, a question.

if you change all those job points at once, you'll get the increased rate based on the starting amount of defence.

So, wouldn't it be better (I know it'd take much longer) to use 1 point at a time, since the increased amount of defence after using each army point would slowly make each point worth a little more?

or doesn't it make any difference?


Yes if u use 1 at a time you would get a little more, but remember with the happy up to high at the maximum he has 15mins with that happy to use all the job points, so he cant really use 1k job points in 15mins, maybe if he spreed them out over the 15mins say uses 50, or 100 points at a time then he would have got more



using 1 point at a time will give low gain

using each point 1 by 1 will give you arounbd 0.001 stats per points
at this point 1k points will be less than training with 5 energy in the worst gym lol

even at the maximum cap of 50mill you will gain 2.5k stats per point
at this point 1k points will be equivalent to 1200 energy worth of training

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Posted on Tue Jul 16, 2013 03:07:32
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even at the maximum cap of 50mill you will gain 2.5k stats per point


It's actually 3.5k per army job point at the stat cap.

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Posted on Tue Jul 16, 2013 03:46:44
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even at the maximum cap of 50mill you will gain 2.5k stats per point


It's actually 3.5k per army job point at the stat cap.


It sure is funny when people talk about Caps, Happy and all that. Are you guys really that clueless?

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Posted on Tue Jul 16, 2013 03:53:55
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By Blackjack-x [981452]
even at the maximum cap of 50mill you will gain 2.5k stats per point


It's actually 3.5k per army job point at the stat cap.


It sure is funny when people talk about Caps, Happy and all that. Are you guys really that clueless?


No - but you are. Go fall down.

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Posted on Tue Jul 16, 2013 09:07:15
Does happy even effect gain from army points ?

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Posted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 03:48:34
dude....every time you train either strength or defence....it goes down....not up...the first time i train my strength with 300 army points i got a little over 68k.....the second time i decided o go with 500 army points....i got something around 20k...and the third time with 1000 army points i got around 6k... and that was when they were implementing the new system...my advice for anyone in the army ...go as far as you can with the army points....then give it a shot....i advise over 5000 army point....it worth it...only if you are saving points since before they change it up....that is...by giving you only two to train on ...which is....strength and defence....go for the strength first....goodluck...

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Posted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 05:00:00
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dude....every time you train either strength or defence....it goes down....not up...the first time i train my strength with 300 army points i got a little over 68k.....the second time i decided o go with 500 army points....i got something around 20k...and the third time with 1000 army points i got around 6k... and that was when they were implementing the new system...my advice for anyone in the army ...go as far as you can with the army points....then give it a shot....i advise over 5000 army point....it worth it...only if you are saving points since before they change it up....that is...by giving you only two to train on ...which is....strength and defence....go for the strength first....goodluck...


That is wrong on so many levels I just don't know where to begin...

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Posted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 05:52:41
Wait, really? That can't be...

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Posted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 19:38:20
So the moral of the story is to quit my grocery job?

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Posted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 20:34:19
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even at the maximum cap of 50mill you will gain 2.5k stats per point


It's actually 3.5k per army job point at the stat cap.


oh
i only tried with capped strength not defence

i guess its different for defence



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Posted on Thu Jul 18, 2013 00:54:02
Does anyone have any idea how much def you could gain when starting with around 14k def? Using 1-1.5k job points.

I think the person who traded just over 1k job points starting from around 10k def can be used as an example. I was just wondering how much that extra 4k def starting amount would affect the gains.

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Posted on Thu Jul 18, 2013 00:59:56
Not quite sure dd

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Posted on Thu Jul 18, 2013 03:08:58
if i start with 1m def
how much def will i get with 1k army points?

anyone tried this before???

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Posted on Thu Jul 18, 2013 09:11:40
idk why, but for some reason, I can't use job points on Bear the Brunt, even though I'm currently am a Warrant Officer...

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Posted on Fri Jul 19, 2013 16:33:15
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Does anyone have any idea how much def you could gain when starting with around 14k def? Using 1-1.5k job points.

I think the person who traded just over 1k job points starting from around 10k def can be used as an example. I was just wondering how much that extra 4k def starting amount would affect the gains.


im not sure
seems as though the stats gain is random
someone here got from 10k to 1m with 1k points
while i got from 24k to 600k with 1k points

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Posted on Fri Jul 19, 2013 17:41:56
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By DD- [1006827]
Does anyone have any idea how much def you could gain when starting with around 14k def? Using 1-1.5k job points.

I think the person who traded just over 1k job points starting from around 10k def can be used as an example. I was just wondering how much that extra 4k def starting amount would affect the gains.


im not sure
seems as though the stats gain is random
someone here got from 10k to 1m with 1k points
while i got from 24k to 600k with 1k points


I was wondering if you could work out how much you would gain at like 14k for example by dividing the difference between 600k and 1mil by 14. To get an idea of how much each 1k in between could give.

I have set a date of 1st January 2014 to use my job points. I should have over 1.6k job points by then. So aslong as Ched doesn't kill this like he has many other things I should gain over 1mil defense with that amount of job points I hope.

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Posted on Fri Jul 19, 2013 18:12:21
I just traded in 1200 some army points for 900k strength. Had maybe 500k before?

Not sure if working stats had any impact:

Working Stats
Manual labor: 65,014
Intelligence: 213,310
Endurance: 58,996



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Posted on Fri Jul 19, 2013 18:12:36
Derped a 2nd post.

Last Edited: Fri Jul 19, 2013 18:21:29


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Posted on Fri Jul 19, 2013 19:14:01
I thought you might get a lot less as you started with around 500k you said. That is strength though so it might be different.

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Posted on Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:22:41
If anyone is looking for more examples how much Defense gained take a look at thread below.

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=2&ID=15404867


If anyone is good at math/bored(or excel for that matter), make a google.doc spreadsheet showing opportunity cost(in stats,time,money) of staying in an Army Job vs Sports Team vs Oil Rig.



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Posted on Mon Jul 22, 2013 14:57:09
how many job points do yiu get per day?



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Posted on Mon Jul 22, 2013 18:42:44
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how many job points do yiu get per day?


10 at maximum rank

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Posted on Mon Jul 22, 2013 20:22:35
Assuming you have the working stats but no ranks in Army, it would take 145 days to get 1000 points saved up. Lets say instead you work for a company that pays 700k/day. That's $101m or 119 xanax, and thats only from the company income. Would someone still consider Army for stats? I mean, yes, it doesn't cost E to get huge Defense from Army, but opportunity cost.

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Posted on Tue Jul 23, 2013 00:07:26
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Assuming you have the working stats but no ranks in Army, it would take 145 days to get 1000 points saved up. Lets say instead you work for a company that pays 700k/day. That's $101m or 119 xanax, and thats only from the company income. Would someone still consider Army for stats? I mean, yes, it doesn't cost E to get huge Defense from Army, but opportunity cost.


It is a choice between stats and cash, but from where I'm sitting stats would win out - and there are other faster ways of making cash than a company job, which is more of a nice thing to have than an essential thing.

You wouldn't stay in the army forever though - just long enough to get that initial push and then start training normally.

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Posted on Tue Jul 23, 2013 02:02:05
maybe your total stats play a part in this? higher total stats less gains ect or maybe the other way around job stats could be a factor unlikely but could be? or maybe level has an impact because atm level is only good for health and bragging rights and ofc merits/rank

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Posted on Thu Jul 25, 2013 00:18:30
Thanks for posting this... I have a question.

I have joined the army but currently at a low rank because I've just joined and earning 4 job points a day.... I checked on TcBasic on the job calculator and it says with my working stats + my level once I get enough points to get promoted to the highest Rank I will be earning around 17k job points a day... just wondering does that sound right to people?


I was just thinking because from 4 job points a day to 17,000+ daily is a large increase :/

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Posted on Thu Jul 25, 2013 01:38:45
By McPuddin [1506641]
Thanks for posting this... I have a question.

I have joined the army but currently at a low rank because I've just joined and earning 4 job points a day.... I checked on TcBasic on the job calculator and it says with my working stats + my level once I get enough points to get promoted to the highest Rank I will be earning around 17k job points a day... just wondering does that sound right to people?


I was just thinking because from 4 job points a day to 17,000+ daily is a large increase :/


The information with those job points comes from the old system. You used to earn job points based on your level * 100 and maybe then * rank in company, or something like that. That's why the numbers are vastly different.

At top rank you will earn 10 job points/day. Also, assuming you have high enough working stats for General, but no prior army experience, it will take 45 days to rank all the way up. 5 days for each rank.

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Posted on Thu Jul 25, 2013 14:11:09
Top man Gyarados, Thanks a lot


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Posted on Thu Jul 25, 2013 14:19:08
I think what plays part is the percentage of defense compared to the rest.

Because Stylin saved up around 700 army points and received 27k def. And his defense is like 0.00001 % of his stats

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