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Posted on Wed Aug 21, 2013 19:46:26
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just wondering does happiness effect the gains when using the points??


Yes, it does, by quite a bit, especially if your strength is less than a million.....Personal experience

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Posted on Wed Aug 21, 2013 21:44:34
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just wondering does happiness effect the gains when using the points??


Yes, it does, by quite a bit, especially if your strength is less than a million.....Personal experience


It works best for defense though. Bare that in mind

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Posted on Wed Aug 21, 2013 22:24:42
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What is the meaning of life


everything in your signature is wrong. smh

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Posted on Thu Aug 22, 2013 17:06:58
im just hoping it doesnt get nerfed.

at 300points at the moment and want to save it for 2k

5*Furniture hiring 200k a day for 15k intel



Specials



Coffee Break + 3 Energy - 1 job point

Heavy Lifting + Endurance - 1 job point

Hard Yakka + Strength - 1 job point
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Posted on Thu Aug 22, 2013 18:20:12
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just wondering does happiness effect the gains when using the points??


Yes, it does, by quite a bit, especially if your strength is less than a million.....Personal experience


It works best for defense though. Bare that in mind


Ah I actually meant defends lol

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Posted on Sun Sep 01, 2013 14:46:09
You changed 551 army points for 1,144,230.1563 defense.


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Posted on Wed Sep 04, 2013 03:03:31
Not sure if anyone has done this before, but I'm saving up 1100 army points. I'll use 100 individually and record the data, and then 1000 in bulk. I'll make the data from this available, as well as my working stats and other stats etc. when I finally have this saved up!

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Posted on Wed Sep 04, 2013 03:40:12
By dunmugmeh [538353]
taking 67 xanax to go from 7 million to 30 million in a stat look good

just a bit of tc play money gone and a stat quadrupled.

to do that without taking drugs like me would take many months


Don't forget the natural E that would have been trained as well and a fair bit of it at that, as well as a bunch of FHC's I'd say.

Some very rough calculations put the gain from those xanax alone at about 7 mil stats, maybe a bit more - remember that we only had the old gym back then so the max stat gain per rep was about 10k, not including steadfast or any other boosts there may have been in place at the time.

Using Georges as the baseline for gym gains per rep you would come close to doubling that figure now.


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Posted on Sat Sep 07, 2013 20:04:58
Battle Stats
Strength: 3,483.5666
Defense: 15,076.1720
Speed: 5,617.4089
Dexterity: 5,194.9854
Total: 29,372.1329

Working Stats
Manual labor: 53,763
Intelligence: 36,907
Endurance: 29,649

You changed 1,000 army points for 399,758.7782 defense.

Hope this helps.

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Posted on Sat Sep 07, 2013 20:13:08
Forgot to mention my happy was:

Happy: 1000/1000

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Posted on Sat Sep 07, 2013 23:43:32
Ok I'll take part in this too.

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Posted on Sat Sep 07, 2013 23:57:02
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1000 Happy

Defense: 15,076.1720

Working Stats
Manual labor: 53,763
Intelligence: 36,907
Endurance: 29,649

You changed 1,000 army points for 399,758.7782 defense.


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You changed 551 army points for 1,144,230.1563 defense.

3750 Happy


Based on what I had and what others are posting, Happy does seem to have an effect.



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Posted on Sun Sep 08, 2013 00:17:38
Stumbled across this thread, and thought I'd use up job points...

Started with 10m def...

and looked at the stacking effect...

You changed 500 army points for 1,201,669.6673 defense.
You changed 1,000 army points for 2,998,243.5158
You changed 8,000 army points for 27,597,601.8736
:D

Guess I'll go back to saving now

btw.. 4500 happy

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Posted on Sun Sep 08, 2013 00:30:06
It seems happy does have an effect. So I will now probably use DVD's and an XTC before I use my job points.

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Posted on Sun Sep 08, 2013 01:46:59
Yup, to quickly sum it up..

1. Defence gives more than Strength. May not be exact, but roughly 30% more.
2. Working stats do not have an effect.
3. Happy does have an effect, perhaps a big one. Try to max out your happy before spending.
4. Having more defence at the time of spending gives more defence. Proven with 3.5k a point at stat cap.
5. Using more points at a time adds an exponential multiplier. A single 1k point exchange is better than 1000 single point exchanges, and this only rises with the number saved up.



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Posted on Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:00:28
Defence: 3,575,479
You changed 100 army points for 28,107.9340 defense.

Defense: 5,528,786
You changed 100 army points for 43,432.8782 defense.

Defense: 10,407,836
You changed 100 army points for 81,712.1183 defense.

Defense: 17,016,366
You changed 100 army points for 133,560.2286 defense

Defense: 30,651,973
You changed 100 army points for 240,540.2219 defense.

500 Army points = 527,351

Defense: 56,019,857.9997
You changed 100 army points for 350,050.0000 defense.

So with 600 Army points I gained roughly 877k defense. I hope that info helps.

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Posted on Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:53:10
is there something wrong here ? i had 900 happy,with erotic dvds and stuff. started with 100k defense and this is what i got:

You changed 551 army points for 43,432.156 defense.
or something like that ^ dont remember exact numbers,but all i know is that i got 43k gain with 500 points:(


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Posted on Sun Sep 08, 2013 13:55:48
By Larten_Crepsley [1569797]
is there something wrong here ? i had 900 happy,with erotic dvds and stuff. started with 100k defense and this is what i got:

You changed 551 army points for 43,432.156 defense.
or something like that ^ dont remember exact numbers,but all i know is that i got 43k gain with 500 points:(


At 900 happy, and 551 AP, It's a little surprising, but it would have been better at a higher base happy and 1k+ AP.



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Posted on Sun Sep 08, 2013 15:57:19
I remember I cashed in my, one-year-worth AP for defense (3150 if I remember right), while it was the worst stat of like less than 1k. 900 Happy. Result?

8M Defense. Now I keep going with Defense gym training....

Because of this I'll never get Dual Samurai Sword except by buying from others later though, forgot to do the mission first....

I can do Spying Service... if you want?
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Posted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 20:05:19
My observation :
How much defense you will gain, is correlated with amount of strength you have.
You cannot get more defense than you currently have strenght with any amount of points.
IMHO use +1000 points with +10mil strength, and expect 1mil min.

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Posted on Thu Sep 12, 2013 20:15:50
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My observation :
How much defense you will gain, is correlated with amount of strength you have.
You cannot get more defense than you currently have strenght with any amount of points.
IMHO use +1000 points with +10mil strength, and expect 1mil min.


Strength: 114,988.9828
Defense: 13,706,578.0204

Someone I know, only managed it through the Army job points I believe.
I've seen a few other n00bs in the 'Faction Recruitment' thread posting similar stats.

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Posted on Fri Sep 13, 2013 07:39:34
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My observation :
How much defense you will gain, is correlated with amount of strength you have.
You cannot get more defense than you currently have strenght with any amount of points.
IMHO use +1000 points with +10mil strength, and expect 1mil min.


Yeah, but the speed weapon is... or at least was the most common. IT's what I got.
But I guess now with the japanese blade boost it would be the most desirable. Before I always wanted one of the others since they used to be rare.

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Posted on Fri Sep 13, 2013 15:06:59
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You changed 551 army points for 1,144,230.1563 defense.


what was ur defense before & what was ur happy bar at the time of exchange?

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Posted on Sat Sep 14, 2013 15:30:03
You changed 980 army points for 3,430,490.0000 defense.
Before Defense: 350,334,767.5668
After Defense: 353,765,257.5668
I got impatient and couldn't wait any longer

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Posted on Sat Sep 14, 2013 16:51:29
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You changed 980 army points for 3,430,490.0000 defense.
Before Defense: 350,334,767.5668
After Defense: 353,765,257.5668
I got impatient and couldn't wait any longer


You didn't need to wait - you were always going to get 3500 defence per job point there.

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Posted on Sat Sep 14, 2013 20:15:04
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Stumbled across this thread, and thought I'd use up job points...

Started with 10m def...

and looked at the stacking effect...

You changed 500 army points for 1,201,669.6673 defense.
You changed 1,000 army points for 2,998,243.5158
You changed 8,000 army points for 27,597,601.8736
:D

Guess I'll go back to saving now

btw.. 4500 happy


8000 points?! Wow you've been saving awhile

But DAMN, that's a nice gain. 27mil for only 800 days

(But yes it looks 'pretty' capped after using 1k points)

I wanna see someone use 10k points on 10 defence with 10,000 happy I bet they'll get to 50mil

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Posted on Sat Sep 14, 2013 21:20:13
Awesome job Tig_Rock. I wouldn't have the patience for that.

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Posted on Sun Sep 15, 2013 21:03:55
So perhaps it is best to

1) Live in 5k happy PI with 5 e dvds and XTC
2) Save up at least 1k
3) Keep all your stats high and balanced before you use the points
4) Working stats don't matter
5) Better to use on def then str

Do you reckon this is right?

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Posted on Tue Sep 17, 2013 06:19:35
5 e DVDs took exc
960 army points

200k def to start



Defense: 1,498,251.0471

Hope this helps


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Posted on Tue Sep 17, 2013 06:38:36
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I wanna see someone use 10k points on 10 defence with 10,000 happy I bet they'll get to 50mil


They'd get 35 mil defence - the cap on army job special defence gains is 3500 per army point.

Tig-Rock would be better off switching to a furniture company or sports team at this point, as the relative stat gains per day would be a little better there now for him than in the army (and the gap will only widen as his defence increases up to the 50 mil cap).

To be honest though if you've got 30 mil plus in a stat (defence in this case) then it's probably time to move onto another more useful job (perhaps a money spinner) rather than sticking with a stat-producing job, as it wont take long to cap the stat in question at that point (2-3 weeks for a xanax user) and at that point the gains from any job will be relatively insignificant and will only become more so as time goes on.

Breaking it down you'd get a maximum of 35000 stats / day from the army special and somewhere around ~50,000 stats for a 5* sports team / furniture company special (maybe a little more depending on what perks you have).

Now when you consider that the stat in question is already well into the millions and you're gaining up to 3 mil stats a day from a "full" training sched (3x Xanax, 4x full bars of 150e, points building energy refill - 1500e total) then an extra 35k stats per day isn't going to make that much of a difference, even over an extended period of time - you'd be better off in some other job (perhaps a company job) that gives you some other perks that suit your game play in torn city better.

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