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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 00:08:05
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I have 3k points I'll use if someone pay me


Good to hear that you're willing to get involved, but we can't really take paid information as it would invite indiscretions. We're also after a good spread of information to see what factors increase the gains and what-not, as oppose to a handful of 'wow' point spends.


I'll use them in increments with different happy and stuff if im paid...


Thing is, why would we pay you to use your army points that you literally cannot do anything else with. Sure, buy lots of spies. Have fun with that. OH! You could steal a shit weapon! Go you!

We are all teaming together to try and get some kind of formula down for army points. If you don't want to be a team player and demand payment for the results, go eat yourself. Seriously, there are plenty of people much more interested in figuring this out, we don't need some noob saying 'pay me to increase my stats and I'll show you the results.'


Shut up you nub! If you was a team player you would pay the cost for your team.. idiot

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 00:39:52
Link of Data contained within the entire thread: docs.google.com/document/d/1POcRMwOrlEjQKdxqc2UYK0kt8AZT91znY5T91BdgUlM/edit?usp=sharing

By -FB-gonebad [570461]
shall try when i get to 1000 points.. shud i continue training my defence to hit around 750k ? will it increase my gains.. and is there a happy limit, like for energy?



Hopefully questions like these get answered by simply looking at the data...but since it wont.

The short answer: Yes. You will get more defense per point, the more starting defense you have before using your Army Points. (Up to the stat cap of 50m)

As for the happiness, afaik there is and always has been a happy cap of 32676(around there), hard coded into the game so using a combination of items to get past this is a waste I believe.

If you meant to ask if there was a cap to happiness gains per Army Point...then that is up for debate depending on who you ask to interpret the data.

Not sure what you meant by "like for energy"...maybe someone else can help you with that.

Last Edited: Sun Nov 24, 2013 02:16:31
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MrJohnnyTorrio

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:01:54

By Snoop187 [1510238]

Shut up you nub! If you was a team player you would pay the cost for your team.. idiot


OR, the rest of the team will get the data on there own and not be effectively extorted by some tool looking to make a quick buck off others trying to get a full understanding of the situation. Until the last of October you weren't even an active player, so gtfo and use your points and keep the info to yourself, you uncultured swine.

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Snoop187

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:15:51
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Shut up you nub! If you was a team player you would pay the cost for your team.. idiot


OR, the rest of the team will get the data on there own and not be effectively extorted by some tool looking to make a quick buck off others trying to get a full understanding of the situation. Until the last of October you weren't even an active player, so gtfo and use your points and keep the info to yourself, you uncultured swine.


Your report has been sent. Thank you.

Next time don't get ahead of yourself boy

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:18:41
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Your report has been sent. Thank you.

Next time don't get ahead of yourself boy


Nothing reportable there from what I read. Nice try though you ignorant little troll.

Pretty sure nobody is interested in your "contributions" here, so you might as well just wander off and go be a pest somewhere else now.

Last Edited: Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:19:38
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Snoop187

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:20:49
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Your report has been sent. Thank you.

Next time don't get ahead of yourself boy


Nothing reportable there from what I read. Nice try though you ignorant little troll.

Pretty sure nobody is interested in your "contributions" here, so you might as well just wander off and go be a pest somewhere else now.


Pretty sure you was not in this convo...

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:41:31
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Your report has been sent. Thank you.

Next time don't get ahead of yourself boy


Nothing reportable there from what I read. Nice try though you ignorant little troll.

Pretty sure nobody is interested in your "contributions" here, so you might as well just wander off and go be a pest somewhere else now.


Pretty sure you was not in this convo...


Pretty sure we all want you to f**k off

All those in favour, say aye.

Sitting at 750+ Job points and closing in on the 9/10 rank.. Won't be long now, will post my result once I reach 1k

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:44:28
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Your report has been sent. Thank you.

Next time don't get ahead of yourself boy


Nothing reportable there from what I read. Nice try though you ignorant little troll.

Pretty sure nobody is interested in your "contributions" here, so you might as well just wander off and go be a pest somewhere else now.


Pretty sure you was not in this convo...


Pretty sure we all want you to f**k off

All those in favour, say aye.

Sitting at 750+ Job points and closing in on the 9/10 rank.. Won't be long now, will post my result once I reach 1k


Who are you?

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:52:46
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Your report has been sent. Thank you.

Next time don't get ahead of yourself boy


Nothing reportable there from what I read. Nice try though you ignorant little troll.

Pretty sure nobody is interested in your "contributions" here, so you might as well just wander off and go be a pest somewhere else now.


Pretty sure you was not in this convo...


Pretty sure we all want you to f**k off

All those in favour, say aye.

Sitting at 750+ Job points and closing in on the 9/10 rank.. Won't be long now, will post my result once I reach 1k


Who are you?



Well, you obviously can't read.. I am Bloods, nice to meet you.

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Snoop187

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:55:31
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By Bloods [1696973]
By Snoop187 [1510238]
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By Snoop187 [1510238]
Your report has been sent. Thank you.

Next time don't get ahead of yourself boy


Nothing reportable there from what I read. Nice try though you ignorant little troll.

Pretty sure nobody is interested in your "contributions" here, so you might as well just wander off and go be a pest somewhere else now.


Pretty sure you was not in this convo...


Pretty sure we all want you to f**k off

All those in favour, say aye.

Sitting at 750+ Job points and closing in on the 9/10 rank.. Won't be long now, will post my result once I reach 1k


Who are you?



Well, you obviously can't read.. I am Bloods, nice to meet you.


Well it's not nice to meet you so gtfo!

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Blindside

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Posted on Sun Nov 24, 2013 01:57:33
Thread goes back on track.

That would be a cool result of some testing, eh?

GL with the research, let's keep it on track or trolling (or whatever) will be dealt with.



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benjaminmin

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Posted on Mon Nov 25, 2013 09:33:09
Defense before: 163,946.83

Manual labor: 23,325
Intelligence: 16,894
Endurance: 13,881

Happy: 32600 ish

You changed 1,300 army points for 2,303,519.1156 defense.


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Posted on Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:43:24

first Defense: 248.1535





You changed 1,100 army points for 306,995.8822 defense.
20000 happy

Last Edited: Mon Nov 25, 2013 13:15:16
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Esper

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Posted on Mon Nov 25, 2013 15:56:06
By -FB-gonebad [570461]
cant wait to see how my defence will shoot up.. have around 200 points atm and 500k defence.. shall try when i get to 1000 points.. shud i continue training my defence to hit around 750k ? will it increase my gains.. and is there a happy limit, like for energy?


The more you save, the more you will get on an exponential basis.

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Posted on Mon Nov 25, 2013 16:08:46
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By -FB-gonebad [570461]
cant wait to see how my defence will shoot up.. have around 200 points atm and 500k defence.. shall try when i get to 1000 points.. shud i continue training my defence to hit around 750k ? will it increase my gains.. and is there a happy limit, like for energy?


The more you save, the more you will get on an exponential basis.


That is not the question being asked.

@ question: the more starting defense you have, the higher the gains. Not sure on the happiness though.

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Posted on Tue Nov 26, 2013 18:24:32
Happy: 28880/4500
Before: Defense: 12,511,895.7781
You changed 1,360 army points for 4,303,018.7674 defense.
After: Defense: 16,814,914.5455

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Posted on Tue Nov 26, 2013 18:35:07
Ok so, happiness means shit i feel.

Happy: 2795/3050
Starting def: 20k
You changed 1,280 army points for 1,473,566.6314 defense.


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Posted on Tue Nov 26, 2013 20:43:39
Firstly: Thanks everyone for submitting formatted data

By benjaminmin [1613099]
You changed 1,300 army points for 2,303,519.1156 defense.
Base Def: 163,946.83
Happy: 32600*

By Alex- [435186]
You changed 1,280 army points for 1,473,566.6314 defense.
Base Def: 20,000
Happy: 2795

interesting correlation: A 143,946 Base Def and 20 more Army Points was about a difference of 829,952.4842 gain or a 1771 per point gain versus a 1151 per point gain. (This is not a guarantee / Don't quote this as a hard fact)

Just a quick request to the community:

If possible, before spending points do a quick check on the data linked below and use the EXACT same amount of army points as someone else close to what you have currently(i.e. as seen above: instead of 1280 use 1300) I think it would yield some interesting / valuable info.

I'm highly interested in verifying if replicating someone else's results is even possible. Right now the data suggests that even relatively small differences in points/base def seems to make such huge disparity in gains, ect. But again take this as an assumption on my part not a general consensus/fact.

docs.google.com/document/d/1POcRMwOrlEjQKdxqc2UYK0kt8AZT91znY5T91BdgUlM/edit?usp=sharing

Last Edited: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:52:53
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Evil-Duck

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Posted on Tue Nov 26, 2013 21:01:02
I'm sitting on a nest egg of points.
Anyone willing to hook me up with some happy so I can use and share details.

Peace

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Posted on Tue Nov 26, 2013 21:11:33
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I'm sitting on a nest egg of points.
Anyone willing to hook me up with some happy so I can use and share details.

Peace


Didn't Lonewolf promise to buy you a happy meal if you met up with him?

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Posted on Tue Nov 26, 2013 21:13:34
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I'm sitting on a nest egg of points.
Anyone willing to hook me up with some happy so I can use and share details.

Peace


Didn't Lonewolf promise to buy you a happy meal if you met up with him?


Yeah,accept he bottled it

Peace

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Posted on Wed Nov 27, 2013 08:17:01
By maledict [1677916]
Firstly: Thanks everyone for submitting formatted data

By benjaminmin [1613099]
You changed 1,300 army points for 2,303,519.1156 defense.
Base Def: 163,946.83
Happy: 32600*

By Alex- [435186]
You changed 1,280 army points for 1,473,566.6314 defense.
Base Def: 20,000
Happy: 2795

interesting correlation: A 143,946 Base Def and 20 more Army Points was about a difference of 829,952.4842 gain
or a 1771 per point gain versus a 1151 per point gain. (This is not a guarantee / Don't quote this as a hard fact)




Alex-, also notice a difference of 30.000 happiness, which could be a factor.

However, it seems that the base def is a HUGE factor up until around 100k from what I have seen, and then scales less (in the sense that while 2m base def will get a lot more than 200K base def (factor of 10x), 100k base def will get disproportionately more than 10k base def even though its still a 10x factor).



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Posted on Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:31:25
You changed 1,560 army points for 4,504,907.5108 defense.
had just over 3.5 mil when used



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Posted on Wed Nov 27, 2013 16:47:26
By benjaminmin [1613099]
By maledict [1677916]
Firstly: Thanks everyone for submitting formatted data

By benjaminmin [1613099]
You changed 1,300 army points for 2,303,519.1156 defense.
Base Def: 163,946.83
Happy: 32600*

By Alex- [435186]
You changed 1,280 army points for 1,473,566.6314 defense.
Base Def: 20,000
Happy: 2795

interesting correlation: A 143,946 Base Def and 20 more Army Points was about a difference of 829,952.4842 gain
or a 1771 per point gain versus a 1151 per point gain. (This is not a guarantee / Don't quote this as a hard fact)




Alex-, also notice a difference of 30.000 happiness, which could be a factor.

However, it seems that the base def is a HUGE factor up until around 100k from what I have seen, and then scales less (in the sense that while 2m base def will get a lot more than 200K base def (factor of 10x), 100k base def will get disproportionately more than 10k base def even though its still a 10x factor).



I think figuring out the difference can be done by calculation the train difference between those two numbers in a cumulative manner. I'm sure if someone would take on the tedious task we would come much closer to the answer.
Posting updates at page 14.

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Evil-Duck

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Posted on Thu Nov 28, 2013 18:06:02
Just bought and used 5 EDVD's and popped an XTC to use my job points...

You pop the pill into your mouth and down a glass of water.
After some time you feel no pleasure, but a huge headache.
The headache is followed by nausea and vomiting.

Now I have a 30 hour booster cool down and lost all my happy.

#FML #Lavish #Overdose #Drug #Drugaddict #JobPoints

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Posted on Fri Nov 29, 2013 04:44:57
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Your report has been sent. Thank you.

Next time don't get ahead of yourself boy


Nothing reportable there from what I read. Nice try though you ignorant little troll.

Pretty sure nobody is interested in your "contributions" here, so you might as well just wander off and go be a pest somewhere else now.


Pretty sure you was not in this convo...


Pretty sure we all want you to f**k off

All those in favour, say aye.

Sitting at 750+ Job points and closing in on the 9/10 rank.. Won't be long now, will post my result once I reach 1k


Aye

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Posted on Fri Nov 29, 2013 08:31:25
850 job points. Not long now :3

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Posted on Sat Nov 30, 2013 01:12:07
You changed 1,390 army points for 3,289,414.7112 defense.

Start Def: ~830k
Happy: 25,100

Peace

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Posted on Sat Nov 30, 2013 02:33:07
I am so confused. Is it better to save my points and not train def... or train def., and use points one at a time?

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Posted on Sat Nov 30, 2013 02:39:51
o_O really lost now

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