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Thread created on Sat Jun 15, 2013 01:33:39
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Well I have seen many threads about the durability of this game and whether it will be here for the long run. As it stands Chedburn is planning on rolling out many new updates in the near future indicating that he would like the game to evolve and the players to stay even longer. That said, many of the goals set in this game have already been reached, there are hundreds of 5 star companies, so much so that one could just purchase one with acceptable funds. There are 5 level 100's the maximum level in the game, 4 of whom have reached the top rank in the game. At this rate in a years time, a level 100 would not be a rare thing to see, although still impressive. A high percentage of players have reached the top nerve bar and a few individuals have even completed all the educations courses to date, not to forget there are no new missions in the game.

What changes do you think Chedburn will make to create more challenges in the game, and what would you suggest? Chedburn is already rolling out 10 star companies but that is one aspect of the game.Do you higher level players feel you have much to achieve in terms of game play now?

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 02:36:13
The territory faction warring system I think is the one many players are pinning their hopes on.

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 02:39:04
Your entire premise hinges on the idea that each player only strives to be the first to accomplish those goals. I personally find that I wish to accomplish those goals whether they've been done one time or one million times. By that logic you're saying that because we've been to the moon we should never go back. Which is ludicrous.

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 03:02:32
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The territory faction warring system I think is the one many players are pinning their hopes on.


judging by how the chat is being handled, we must admit those hopes are seriously fading away

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 03:05:00
No actually what he is saying is that once you reach the moon why shouldnt you go further and reach for Mars?

OT personally I think more levels past 100, crimes 2.0 should have bigger crimes but also a chance to build your crime bar beyond natural 45, I'm not into wars so faction stuff doesn't really bother me but I assume Torn 2.0 will incorperate that for those that do. More education because I am starting to run out of useful courses for my game play, I travel a lot so a few new countries would be nice, give racing a purpose other than to get to A class and then it becomes redundant (;Maybe have bets in the casino where races can be betted on and odds are based on a combination of cars/tracks/upgrades/previous wins or losses);

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 03:14:28
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The territory faction warring system I think is the one many players are pinning their hopes on.


judging by how the chat is being handled, we must admit those hopes are seriously fading away


The moaning about chat is getting a little tiring tbh - it's pretty clear that it A); doesn't work and B); some players want the option to not have it show at all even if it does eventually work, but the penchant for constantly going back to it constantly is turning into a bit of a yawn...

Still I am looking forward to the territory control system (;which is apparently coming along behind the scenes); and - while it is bound to need some tweaking / bug fixing to begin with - it should bring a bit of life to faction warring (;along with the attacking and warring shake-ups that are to come);.

Whether that's enough to pique players' interest remains to be seen, but tbh almost anything would be better than the current vanilla warring system we have at the moment.


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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 08:22:14
More missions would be good :;D

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:14:36
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No actually what he is saying is that once you reach the moon why shouldnt you go further and reach for Mars?

OT personally I think more levels past 100, crimes 2.0 should have bigger crimes but also a chance to build your crime bar beyond natural 45, I';m not into wars so faction stuff doesn';t really bother me but I assume Torn 2.0 will incorperate that for those that do. More education because I am starting to run out of useful courses for my game play, I travel a lot so a few new countries would be nice, give racing a purpose other than to get to A class and then it becomes redundant (;;Maybe have bets in the casino where races can be betted on and odds are based on a combination of cars/tracks/upgrades/previous wins or losses);;


Yeah we should add more levels! Even though there are only a few people at 100 and it takes years to get there...

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:38:21
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No actually what he is saying is that once you reach the moon why shouldnt you go further and reach for Mars?

OT personally I think more levels past 100, crimes 2.0 should have bigger crimes but also a chance to build your crime bar beyond natural 45, I';m not into wars so faction stuff doesn';t really bother me but I assume Torn 2.0 will incorperate that for those that do. More education because I am starting to run out of useful courses for my game play, I travel a lot so a few new countries would be nice, give racing a purpose other than to get to A class and then it becomes redundant (;;Maybe have bets in the casino where races can be betted on and odds are based on a combination of cars/tracks/upgrades/previous wins or losses);;


The fact that someone actually achieved level 100th doesn't mean, than in nearest futere we'll have crowd of 100s, so adding more level isn't neccesary IMO.
I personally would like to see the Crimes 2.0 because according to Ched annoucement it be will completly revolution, in compare to this what we have now. Also filling this horrible gap between Canada and Hawaii would be nice.

Idea with betting on race outcomes seems cool, but I guess coding it would be too complex, not mentioning other problems with it.

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:58:53
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No actually what he is saying is that once you reach the moon why shouldnt you go further and reach for Mars?

OT personally I think more levels past 100, crimes 2.0 should have bigger crimes but also a chance to build your crime bar beyond natural 45, I';;m not into wars so faction stuff doesn';;t really bother me but I assume Torn 2.0 will incorperate that for those that do. More education because I am starting to run out of useful courses for my game play, I travel a lot so a few new countries would be nice, give racing a purpose other than to get to A class and then it becomes redundant (;;;Maybe have bets in the casino where races can be betted on and odds are based on a combination of cars/tracks/upgrades/previous wins or losses);;;


The fact that someone actually achieved level 100th doesn';t mean, than in nearest futere we';ll have crowd of 100s, so adding more level isn';t neccesary IMO.
I personally would like to see the Crimes 2.0 because according to Ched annoucement it be will completly revolution, in compare to this what we have now. Also filling this horrible gap between Canada and Hawaii would be nice.

Idea with betting on race outcomes seems cool, but I guess coding it would be too complex, not mentioning other problems with it.


Like race fixing for instance - any sort of betting on player activity will always end up with players trying to influence the outcome one way or another.

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 14:32:40
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Your entire premise hinges on the idea that each player only strives to be the first to accomplish those goals. I personally find that I wish to accomplish those goals whether they';ve been done one time or one million times. By that logic you';re saying that because we';ve been to the moon we should never go back. Which is ludicrous.


We dont go to the moon anymore, probes do lol

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 15:06:40
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Your entire premise hinges on the idea that each player only strives to be the first to accomplish those goals. I personally find that I wish to accomplish those goals whether they';;ve been done one time or one million times. By that logic you';;re saying that because we';;ve been to the moon we should never go back. Which is ludicrous.


We dont go to the moon anymore, probes do lol


2015 Mission to transport the first space tourists to fly around the Moon using Soyuz; proposed by Space Adventures
2020 Manned moon landing; proposed by India ISRO
2020 Manned moon landing; proposed by Japan JAXA
2024 Manned moon landing; proposed by Europe Aurora ESA
2025+ Manned moon landing; proposed by China CNSA
2025 Manned moon landing; proposed by Iran ISA
2025 and 202732 Manned moon landing; proposed by Russia RFSA
2019 Manned moon landing and operation of lunar surface mineral extraction equipment proposed by Shackleton Energy Company
2020+ Manned moon landing proposed by Golden Spike Company

On top of that... These are the manned missions that have previously landed on the surface of the moon:;

Apollo 11
Apollo 12
Apollo 14
Apollo 15
Apollo 16
Apollo 17

Although we don't go currently, we are planning to, and we did go multiple times in the past. Regardless the idea behind my comment was about the goals of each individual player. Just because it's been done before doesn't mean I immediately don't want to do it. That line of thinking is wrong.

@Jenocide- I understand what you're saying about going beyond that goal, but it's unrealistic to imagine that being necessary in the near future.

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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 15:19:36
To me Torn has always been about being better than other players. At first this meant bettering my stats/weapons to beat others in combat, then it was about helping lead factions to be better than other factions, and now I just work toward amassing a ton of cash and building dirty bombs.

The point to me is that I've never cared about the goals the game sets--my real networth is above 50 billion, but my last networth award was for being "worth" 100 million. I could easily get the next two networth awards, but I dont need the merits and I dont need to game to tell me I have a ton of cash.



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Posted on Sat Jun 15, 2013 23:37:46
im in for the slow burn and stat increase

I can do without all those hyper links....frak

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Posted on Sun Jun 16, 2013 06:16:08
New faction warring and new city design which ched said will be released soon. And the new missions which can be done unlimitated well I am eagerly waiting for these too.

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Posted on Tue Jun 18, 2013 14:09:20
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The territory faction warring system I think is the one many players are pinning their hopes on.


judging by how the chat is being handled, we must admit those hopes are seriously fading away


This... ; ; ; ;;; ;;;

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Posted on Tue Jun 18, 2013 14:26:48
you are fooling yourself if you think updates are coming SOON

Chess took FOREVER (;and very few wanted it);

Chat is not working right (;still);

they have been distracted with security breeches

Guess time will tell the true story, but methinks soon = 2014, maybe

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Posted on Tue Jun 18, 2013 15:13:33
i don't think it's a matter of "what will we do after we reach level 100", so much as a matter of keeping people interested until level 100. i mean, reaching level 100 takes a large chunk of time. i'm not so much worried about reaching level 100 because it's not a goal in the sense that i'm not power leveling to reach it. it's a matter of completing other parts of the game.

for example, merits are my main attraction to this game. i grind my way to getting merits, so, for me, it's more so a question of what will i do when i'm out of merits to obtain? hopefully by that time torn 2.0 will have been rolled out, along with a bunch of new features and new merits.

once i reach finally reach level 100, i'm more than sure i will have plenty more merits to obtain, so i'm not really concerned with new levels. plus i'd like to think, by that time, there will be at least one new feature that i enjoy playing despite having all the merits for. for example, i still enjoy racing and customizing cars, and when i finish getting all of the travel merits i will probably go back to doing that on a regular basis.

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Posted on Tue Jun 18, 2013 17:19:31
I completely agree with you about so many of the goals being reached. Torn has kind of hit a dead end where if you don't have billions you can't achieve much more. Hopefully we will see updates that don't favor the super rich players. When I log on now, I usually just train and visit the forums.

I can't see updates coming any time soon. They need to fix current problems before doing anything else.

Personally I would like to see more missions, the last mission requires a user to be level 40, and the missions were quite boring. For example, rather than being stuck with 18 missions for the last 4-5 years, there should be weekly missions, or weekly objectives with decent rewards. This could bring something new and interesting to the game each week.

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Posted on Tue Jun 18, 2013 17:29:06
i think a few new starter jobs would be interesting..along with a few new specials ;D


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Posted on Tue Jun 18, 2013 18:07:49
The moon thingamajig has been bothering me since this morning.

I give you Rhysling

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Let the sweet fresh breezes heal me
As they rove around the girth
Of our lovely mother planet
Of the cool, green hills of Earth.

We rot in the moulds of Venus,
We retch at her tainted breath.
Foul are her flooded jungles,
Crawling with unclean death.

[ --- the harsh bright soil of Luna ---
--- Saturn's rainbow rings ---
--- the frozen night of Titan --- ]

We've tried each spinning space mote
And reckoned its true worth:;
Take us back again to the homes of men
On the cool, green hills of Earth.

The arching sky is calling
Spacemen back to their trade.
ALL HANDS! STAND BY! FREE FALLING!
And the lights below us fade.

Out ride the sons of Terra,
Far drives the thundering jet,
Up leaps a race of Earthmen,
Out, far, and onward yet ---


We pray for one last landing
On the globe that gave us birth;
Let us rest our eyes on the fleecy skies
And the cool, green hills of Earth.

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