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Thread created on Wed May 08, 2013 22:34:25
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So I been trying to do some research on companies. I am considering opening or purchasing one. But what companies actually make money.

You can be the criminal, the thug, the business tycoon.

Out of the 34 companies you can open it seems only a few actually make money. Am I missing something.

So guys please help me out what companies are actually worth investing in to make money in your opinions.

and on another note would more people be interested in running companies if they actually made more money.

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Posted on Wed May 08, 2013 23:37:52
f**k all of them are worth buying. Hopefully ched will address this in 2.0.
The tv, cruse liner and oil rigs are the only ones worth mentioning.

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Posted on Wed May 08, 2013 23:38:07
only tv stations andoil rigs make money

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Posted on Wed May 08, 2013 23:48:22
Just buy a rig and you're settled!

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Posted on Wed May 08, 2013 23:51:11
Reasons people make/join companies:
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Posted on Wed May 08, 2013 23:51:20
Most of the other companies make tiny profits even if they are 5 star.

The 5 star company i am in looks like its making less than $1 million a day after the wages are paid .

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 00:46:05
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only tv stations andoil rigs make money


I make plenty of profit out of my Cruise co....more than mpst oil rigs and tv companies thanks




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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 01:20:30
Yeah I used to run a Cruise Ship company, bought with the winnings from the Mr Torn competition you can make about $10mil a day profit with a big 5* Cruise Liner and well managed-noob-active (cheapish) staff. But its hard work having to find new people every few days due to inactives. I got bored fast, -I miss the extra income but I enjoy stats gains more

They REALLY need to fix companies in 2.0, making them pretty much all profitable and more benefits, without ruining the economy. Say, like the crimes suggestion give ITEMS as payout. Makes gained company-specials points increase with profit. Idk, but it'd be more fun to have a better choice.

A sweet shop can easily make as much as a tv station, just need to expand/franise into afew million cities One CEO, one company, huge profits.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 01:34:38
Aim for the 5* companies which pay 0 per day.

Sports team for example.. anything earned is profit.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 02:00:54
Sigh, and my thread last week about this got graved. I even had a list of the top earners. Haters gonna hate. I rated - for taking my thread and trying to re-seed it. Sorry.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 02:10:22
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Sigh, and my thread last week about this got graved. I even had a list of the top earners. Haters gonna hate. I rated - for taking my thread and trying to re-seed it. Sorry.


LOL I actually didn't see your thread but wish i did. I been looking for a few weeks before i made this post. hahhahaha

go figure

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 02:22:09
Concur with everyone else. The best a cruiseliner can get you is enough to buy your xanax every day and that's about it. Highest income TV network owner said at one point that he wished he had invested into an oil rig instead, so Oil rig is really the only good income company, though tv network isn't that bad it just doesn't seem worth it when for 2 extra bil you can get a company that can make up to 3x more
Other than that bcfcespley's got it, companies are mostly for the specials for the people that can't afford an oil rig.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 03:23:28
Furniture company + sports company you can make good profits in buying and selling them.

cruise, tv station,oil rig you can make good money keeping and running them.

amount of money invested in the cruise,tv, oil companies tho you could probably make more profits investing in stock market with the money instead.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 07:02:28
Also a good money maker is a 5* Sweet shop, If ran properly you can make about 8mill from each employee monthly.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 11:11:54
Furniture companies, tv stations, oil rigs and cruiseliners can all make money by the looks of it. Anything else is just going to lose you money.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 11:44:54
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f**k all of them are worth buying. Hopefully ched will address this in 2.0.
The tv, cruse liner and oil rigs are the only ones worth mentioning.


Technically all companies make money, it's just that people insist on paying stupidly high wages for whatever reason and the amount of money people expect is a lot more than what their investment value dictates.

A hard problem to address.

The real problem at hand is the fact that there are TOO MANY companies, first we must purge shittonnes of inactive companies.


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By HOLYTOLEDO [1290517]
Sigh, and my thread last week about this got graved. I even had a list of the top earners. Haters gonna hate. I rated - for taking my thread and trying to re-seed it. Sorry.


LOL I actually didn't see your thread but wish i did. I been looking for a few weeks before i made this post. hahhahaha

go figure


Be glad you didn't. Your thread actually has discussion value, theirs was JUST a pointless list.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 12:31:01
This is what some of the 5 star companies make each day.

Property Brokers-----------30,000
Hair Salon-----------------75,000
Restaurant-----------------45,000
Adult Novelty--------------6,000
Toy Shop--------------------316
Night Club-----------------42,000

From this they have to pay for Advertising,Trains and wages.From below it can be seen the amount of people working in companies! There only seams to be a few companies worth having at the moment!

Job Stats:

44,652 people enlisted in the army.
15,784 people are working as grocers.
26,293 people are working in the casino.
11,222 people are working as teachers.
59,408 people are working in the TC hospital.
6,459 people are working in the TC Courts.
22,698 people are working in companies.
160,207 people don't have a job.


As well as the fact that companies need to make more money,more interest is needed in companies as well. Would it be an idea for the director to be able to appoint say a manager who could be given access to hire people etc? [ The same way access to a co leader is given in a faction.] People could work their way up in a company to become a manager perhaps!

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 12:39:17
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Technically all companies make money, it's just that people insist on paying stupidly high wages for whatever reason and the amount of money people expect is a lot more than what their investment value dictates.

A hard problem to address.

The real problem at hand is the fact that there are TOO MANY companies, first we must purge shittonnes of inactive companies.


Well I would have to agree with you there. All companies make money, but that money is based the old days of torn when torn a pi was a rarity and the average player only had a few thousand dollars. But in today's torn we see all the post where the average player is a millionaire.

Like in life the cost of living has rose along with the average income. But the amount the company itself makes is no longer comparable to what it needs to make. I imagine ched never designed or expected companies to have so much competition. Or them to be used in the manner they are used today. Mainly for banks and perks.




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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 12:44:23
get a company to 5 star and sell it for 2b+

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 13:18:49
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Technically all companies make money, it's just that people insist on paying stupidly high wages for whatever reason and the amount of money people expect is a lot more than what their investment value dictates.

A hard problem to address.

The real problem at hand is the fact that there are TOO MANY companies, first we must purge shittonnes of inactive companies.


Well I would have to agree with you there. All companies make money, but that money is based the old days of torn when torn a pi was a rarity and the average player only had a few thousand dollars. But in today's torn we see all the post where the average player is a millionaire.

Like in life the cost of living has rose along with the average income. But the amount the company itself makes is no longer comparable to what it needs to make. I imagine ched never designed or expected companies to have so much competition. Or them to be used in the manner they are used today. Mainly for banks and perks.




It's a difficult balance to address, you make companies too profitable and you're then left with a bigger issue of inflation. Not to mention that if all companies make more than a person can make as an employee then no one will want to be employees... and we'll be stuck with the same system we're currently in but in a WORSE way...

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 13:28:18
tv shop where can you sell products from tv commercials
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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 18:36:42
tv networks are the easiest and makes money... with oil rigs with same money invested they would need to hire about 70 employees to where i only hire 38 and its full... and 45k intel is much easier to find than the rigs 50-60k manual... i do however wish tv had a stock option like CNC for rigs... oil rigs makes more than i do but they have to pay more to keep well stated employees...

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 18:38:34
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Technically all companies make money, it's just that people insist on paying stupidly high wages for whatever reason and the amount of money people expect is a lot more than what their investment value dictates.

A hard problem to address.

The real problem at hand is the fact that there are TOO MANY companies, first we must purge shittonnes of inactive companies.


Well I would have to agree with you there. All companies make money, but that money is based the old days of torn when torn a pi was a rarity and the average player only had a few thousand dollars. But in today's torn we see all the post where the average player is a millionaire.

Like in life the cost of living has rose along with the average income. But the amount the company itself makes is no longer comparable to what it needs to make. I imagine ched never designed or expected companies to have so much competition. Or them to be used in the manner they are used today. Mainly for banks and perks.




It's a difficult balance to address, you make companies too profitable and you're then left with a bigger issue of inflation. Not to mention that if all companies make more than a person can make as an employee then no one will want to be employees... and we'll be stuck with the same system we're currently in but in a WORSE way...


there should be something like a cap for each company. so its divided among the companies in this category.

Otherwise how can you be the only toy shop in town and not make enough to do employee trains. that is stupid.


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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 18:42:19
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Technically all companies make money, it's just that people insist on paying stupidly high wages for whatever reason and the amount of money people expect is a lot more than what their investment value dictates.

A hard problem to address.

The real problem at hand is the fact that there are TOO MANY companies, first we must purge shittonnes of inactive companies.


Well I would have to agree with you there. All companies make money, but that money is based the old days of torn when torn a pi was a rarity and the average player only had a few thousand dollars. But in today's torn we see all the post where the average player is a millionaire.

Like in life the cost of living has rose along with the average income. But the amount the company itself makes is no longer comparable to what it needs to make. I imagine ched never designed or expected companies to have so much competition. Or them to be used in the manner they are used today. Mainly for banks and perks.




It's a difficult balance to address, you make companies too profitable and you're then left with a bigger issue of inflation. Not to mention that if all companies make more than a person can make as an employee then no one will want to be employees... and we'll be stuck with the same system we're currently in but in a WORSE way...


there should be something like a cap for each company. so its divided among the companies in this category.

Otherwise how can you be the only toy shop in town and not make enough to do employee trains. that is stupid.


I agree but this isn't really possible any more, to realistically scale you'd need to set the cap for oil rigs and such to crazy low amounts... seeing as there are around a 100 or so rigs that's not really possible unless you set the cap anyway and forced refunds on like 70% of the people with rigs... I wouldn't go for that personally, I quite like the cash my rig makes, as I imagine do most of the others in the same situation.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 19:11:22
Even if you set a wage cap, people would just pay employees off the books wages or occasional dividends.

The only solutions I see are:
1. Offer the ability to sell companies back to the system to reduce the overall number of companies
2. Significantly increase the cost to start a company
3. A fairly harsh and swift system of losing stars and bankruptcy for negligent owners

I think all three would be needed. I suppose you could come up with some way to merge companies but that would probably be a programming nightmare.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 19:24:29
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Even if you set a wage cap, people would just pay employees off the books wages or occasional dividends.

The only solutions I see are:
1. Offer the ability to sell companies back to the system to reduce the overall number of companies
2. Significantly increase the cost to start a company
3. A fairly harsh and swift system of losing stars and bankruptcy for negligent owners

I think all three would be needed. I suppose you could come up with some way to merge companies but that would probably be a programming nightmare.


I would like to see a system where employees can be paid a percentage of the amount they actually make for the company.

Whilst underhand payments would always be an issue at the end of the day it's never something we could stop. Although I have my doubts that the largest company owners would want to go ahead and deal with the hassle of that. Tbh if I had 50 employees I had to pay by hand every single day, or even every week, I'd get bored of that real fast...

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 19:24:47
i bought a pub when companies were released to experiment. I've owned a few companies... It was too much work... And to start making a profit can take years.

Company cost + staff pay + upgrades + etc - profits = out of pocket/ a loss

How much does it cost to upgrade a TV company? Billions?

An update might change things for better or worse or same ole!





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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 19:51:21
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Even if you set a wage cap, people would just pay employees off the books wages or occasional dividends.

The only solutions I see are:
1. Offer the ability to sell companies back to the system to reduce the overall number of companies
2. Significantly increase the cost to start a company
3. A fairly harsh and swift system of losing stars and bankruptcy for negligent owners

I think all three would be needed. I suppose you could come up with some way to merge companies but that would probably be a programming nightmare.


I would like to see a system where employees can be paid a percentage of the amount they actually make for the company.

Whilst underhand payments would always be an issue at the end of the day it's never something we could stop. Although I have my doubts that the largest company owners would want to go ahead and deal with the hassle of that. Tbh if I had 50 employees I had to pay by hand every single day, or even every week, I'd get bored of that real fast...


A wage cap is a ridiculous idea.

People don't get paid too much. There is an argument it isn't enough relative to the economy. I know I would rather sacrifice the 1mil a day I could get for a bank that cost me 500k.

Peoples wages are relative to the demand and the economy. It's just a fact that only a few types of companies can make money.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 19:52:31
i have 36.1bil invested into my tv network... i wish i would have just stopped at the 20bil mark as it doesnt make that much more with the extra 16b in it... the best day i make 100m on an average day i make 60-80m... when i had the 20b upgrade i make 50-70m average

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 19:57:53
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Even if you set a wage cap, people would just pay employees off the books wages or occasional dividends.

The only solutions I see are:
1. Offer the ability to sell companies back to the system to reduce the overall number of companies
2. Significantly increase the cost to start a company
3. A fairly harsh and swift system of losing stars and bankruptcy for negligent owners

I think all three would be needed. I suppose you could come up with some way to merge companies but that would probably be a programming nightmare.


There you have it, 3 excellent suggestions right here.

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Posted on Thu May 09, 2013 20:16:38
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By Penicillin [1517799]
Even if you set a wage cap, people would just pay employees off the books wages or occasional dividends.

The only solutions I see are:
1. Offer the ability to sell companies back to the system to reduce the overall number of companies
2. Significantly increase the cost to start a company
3. A fairly harsh and swift system of losing stars and bankruptcy for negligent owners

I think all three would be needed. I suppose you could come up with some way to merge companies but that would probably be a programming nightmare.


I would like to see a system where employees can be paid a percentage of the amount they actually make for the company.

Whilst underhand payments would always be an issue at the end of the day it's never something we could stop. Although I have my doubts that the largest company owners would want to go ahead and deal with the hassle of that. Tbh if I had 50 employees I had to pay by hand every single day, or even every week, I'd get bored of that real fast...


A wage cap is a ridiculous idea.

People don't get paid too much. There is an argument it isn't enough relative to the economy. I know I would rather sacrifice the 1mil a day I could get for a bank that cost me 500k.

Peoples wages are relative to the demand and the economy. It's just a fact that only a few types of companies can make money.


Ched hates the idea of caps in companies so it's pretty unlikely such a thing will ever happen Dw

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