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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:08:05
I started flower running for the cash, then for the merits.
As soon as I opened up the Museum - I began converting my own sets to points as selling sets was not overly profitable as selling the points.

Now I train 3 times and hunt twice in Africa per day (92% skill).

I have over 2.5k Violets - and make around 3 mil per day on hunting.

Maybe a good idea would be to have a trade forum specifically for runners to swap flowers with each other - to make sets up or a "Flower Runner Community".

Cheers...Sub.

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 13:32:19
anyone care to explain flower running to me

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 15:07:51
Sure in short unlock through education the museum, be in a privet island to cut travel time grab yourself a large suitcase to increase the amount of flowers you can buy abroad.( there are also other ways to increase how many you buy abroad Cumber the faction special and joining a cruise line company)

Each country has its own unique flower so travel to each country in torn buying as many flowers as you can from each country at a time.

Then when you have at least 1 of each flower from every country go to the museum and you can trade 1 full set for 10 points.

It dose not sound like a lot but you buy them at 10% trade them in for 90% profit.(not fact, just the concept Others im sure have exact fingers lol)

It soon adds up and you have millions.......If you have the patience to ALWAYS be flying lol

Im new to it myself and was reluctant at first until i ran out of ways to make money after losing it all to the casino researched all that info and now im in the mile high club

Hope that helps

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 15:23:06
I can carry 21 items at a time now (less then what I used to be able to because ive changed factions)and I easily get 5 trips to each country a fortnight so 60m+ but it would be great to be in IBB they have cumber 10!

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 15:25:31
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anyone care to explain flower running to me


1.Travel somewhere.
2.Buy flowers.
3.Travel back.
4.Sell flowers.

OR

Travel to every area, buy all the flowers, and trade them in for points via the museum accessed by the history course.

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 15:58:51
So a large suitcase cruise line company and cumber 10 = 31....the MAX??

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 16:02:13
Oh and you might want to invest in a laptop.... trust me

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 20:12:59
And people pay you to go on flower runs for them?

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 21:19:41
Flowers can be turned into points. So some people will buy the flower to turn into points, or turn the flowers into points (through the museum) and sell the points.

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 21:25:02
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And people pay you to go on flower runs for them?


They do, but doing the same run as a free agent is MUCH more lucrative.
Flowers can be sold for cash in the item market or in a bazaar.
Flower-runs made for employers have a tendency to become a source of bickering between employer and employee, so that kind of thing is best avoided.

Making use of a bazaar saves you the 3% listing fee.
However, if you do not have a bazaar you may not wish to expend the points very early on.

The Bazaar becomes profitable ( points cost money! ) around the 300 MLN lifetime turnover mark ( when compared with using the item market ).

If you have a decent amount of turn-over but cannot or do not want to buy a bazaar just yet you may find some flower-buyers willing to negotiate advance-deals for the delivery of X flowers for the price of Y, where Y should be very close to the open market price. I used that method to save me a lot of effort while saving up for a bazaar.

Straightforward trades are after all quite effective, and have very low transaction-costs. ( 0 )
Since flower-buyers are also point-sellers ( and as a prospective bazaar buyer you want points ) flowers-for-point-deals can be satisfying for both parties involved.

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 21:27:36
thanks for the help folks, whats a good pay to do runs?

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 21:31:11
With the change in flying time ( and the flower market hasn't quite discounted those changes yet ) that is at this time hard to say.

But there are 2 routes that you should AVOID like the plague.

-Switzerland is simply DREADFUL.
-South Africa is like a d-student, an embarrasing redfaced stammerer with a below-average performance.

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 21:44:45
Hello. I'm considering becoming a flower runner at somepoint.. But I'm not very knowledgeable on the matter at hand.

My question is this; do you guys/girls sell the flowers individually (for example 54 Tulips or whatever) or do you sell them as whole sets? If you do the latter, is it more profitable?

Thank you.

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 21:54:21
I think you might have a hard time selling on the tulips.

For me I collect the sets to exchange at the museum for points. Until you have that ability of the museum unlocked I'd go for the longer routes e.g. Dubai and sell the flowers individually on the market.

But get to the level where you can fly....who knows everything might have changed by then

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 22:37:11
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I think you might have a hard time selling on the tulips.

For me I collect the sets to exchange at the museum for points. Until you have that ability of the museum unlocked I'd go for the longer routes e.g. Dubai and sell the flowers individually on the market.

But get to the level where you can fly....who knows everything might have changed by then


xD I couldn't for the life of me remember any of the flower names.

Thank you for the information, much appreciated. Also I know prices vary and fluxuate drastically but which flowers give you the best turnover/profit? Taking into account buying cost and selling price.

Thanks yet again in advance for any help received.

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Posted on Tue Apr 16, 2013 23:53:09
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Hello. I'm considering becoming a flower runner at somepoint.. But I'm not very knowledgeable on the matter at hand.

My question is this; do you guys/girls sell the flowers individually (for example 54 Tulips or whatever) or do you sell them as whole sets? If you do the latter, is it more profitable?

Thank you.


Check which destinations have flowers available ( or will when you arrive to buy ) using the flower thread.
Then go for the destination which is most rewarding per minute of flying at that time.


D I couldn't for the life of me remember any of the flower names.

Thank you for the information, much appreciated. Also I know prices vary and fluxuate drastically but which flowers give you the best turnover/profit? Taking into account buying cost and selling price.

Thanks yet again in advance for any help received.

At the beginning of this month the situation was as follows.

South Africa 0.34
Caymans 0.50
Argentina 0.60 <=== top route
Japan 0.59
Canada 0.59
Mexico 0.54
Switzerland 0.06 <=== worst
UK 0.60 <=== top route
Hawaii 0.58
China 0.58
UAE 0.48

Obviously, things do fluctuate.


Based on 19 items/trip, a daily income of 7-8 MLN is possible, but you need to be a determined CowClicker to make that. 5-6 MLN however, is quite doable.

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 01:17:38
Thats pretty decent money if only I had the money to start buying flowers lol

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 02:39:37
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Thats pretty decent money if only I had the money to start buying flowers lol


Take Mexico for an example.
You'd need all of 20*300 TC dollars to buy a full load of Dahlias.
That's 6K.

Assume that you will sell them for
a]6K each ( that is very low for that item )
b]you have no bazar and must use the item-market.
That would set you back 3.600 TC dollars

Maybe you need an air-ticket to Mexico? Sorry, I do not know the price as a PI dweller, but lets say sayd 25K ( more likly about half of that ).

So you'd need to borrow all of 35.000 TC dollars. Go see the loanshark.

You'd be clearing about 90K on that transaction.


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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 04:07:51
Hey there Flower runners! This is my schedule for flower running throughout the day , now remember I have just started to Flower run and I can rake in a nice income of 1.4Mill a day with the carrying capacity of 8 items per trip. In my opinion thats pretty good..

Anyway this is how my schedule works for the day until I can start renting a PI and get a suitcase, large preferably
So this is how my day goes as a flower runner for the time being,
I always start my day out with doing Banana Orchid Runs in the Caymans as It takes 35 Minutes one way without a PI and etc so about 1.10 for a round trip.
Total costs for the round trip including the cost of the flowers and taking the in the fact that you can carry 8 items will be shown below-


Part One Of The Day:

Trip Cost: $10,000

Flower Cost: 8*4,000 = $24,000

Total cost for the trip so far- $34,000

Raw Profit assume the market price in Torn is $23,500

8*23,500 = $188,000

Costs from the trip deducted from the raw profit=

$188,000 - $34,000 = $154,000

$154,000 is made from a round trip to the Caymans.

Personally I can do this around 8 times a day 9 if Im lucky. That would equal to about so lets calculate if I am able to do 8 times a day-

8*154,000 = $1,232,000.

Alone I can make $1.2Mill just from the Caymans throughout the day.



This is where the lazy part comes in, as the end of the day when you are going to log off for the night just get yourself on a flight to Argentina to go buy some Ceibo Flowers. Just take note I only do this once a day because this takes to long in my opinion.. I do like to squeeze in a poker game or two in-between my runs to The Caymans. The calculation is the same as below. Take note that I will put the cost of the Ceibo Flower as $1,000 since I have forgotten the cost of the flower In Argentina. My apologies.

Part Two Of The Day:

Trip Cost: $21,000

Flower Cost: 8*1,000 = $8,000

Total cost for the trip so far- $29,000

Raw Profit assume the market price in Torn is $80,000

8*80,00 = $640,000

Costs from the trip deducted from the raw profit=

$640,000 - $29,000 = $611,000

$611,000 is made from a round trip to Argentina.

1*611,000 = $611,000

Total Profit from a day of Flower running with me is- $1,232,000 + $611,000 = $1,843,000

From a whole day it turns out to be $1.8Mill I know I said I can make around $1.4Mill, the 400K went into buying everyday items, drugs, meds and etc not savings.

Now remember this is MY daily schedule taking in the facts that I can only carry 8 items at a time..

I dont know weather this is a guide or not but yeah if this came in handy for anyway then well Ill be happy

From a fellow Flower Runner,

~Pineapple


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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 07:47:56
Well thought out for a new runner lol

i couldn't tell you the price of any flower i buy and traveling is free as i have a pi.

i begrudge flying free getting 31 flowers per trip lol

Like i said before, im collecting 600 of each flower which are in my display then cashing them in at the museum, i don't know the profits but i hear there good lol

its that simple for as im new as of this week to flower running myself.

ill get about 380mil in 1 lump sum when im done which should make it all feel worth it ^^, don't know how much it cost me though lol

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 07:57:44
each flower set if I remember correctly cost the traveller about 220k per set (that's if you own PI with airstrip which doesn't cost you anything to travel) and mrspadge 600 sets will get you about 360mil

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 08:29:13
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each flower set if I remember correctly cost the traveller about 220k per set (that's if you own PI with airstrip which doesn't cost you anything to travel) and mrspadge 600 sets will get you about 360mil


Then you do not remember correctly.

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 08:52:59
Hi,

I am a flower runner. I am almost super active (around 12-14 hrs a day):)
I gather around 80 sets a day and trade for points

In case any one needs advice let me know. Never thought this thread will come up

Thanks & Regards

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 09:19:20
experienced flower runner...been saving up to upgrade my pi to superior interior..
im curious of how some dude can buy 31 flowers...i can only buy 20..and i think the max is only 25...maybe there are other bonuses out there..i usually get 200 sets..preferably b4 the end of each month coz thats where i can withdraw from bank..after that i convert them to points..sell them and the profit goes straight to bank..i make 121m on average per month..that is from flower running alone..

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 09:41:12
Kinda strange that we with a Laptop still cant acces chat though :/

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:53:42
Has anyone else noticed how this seems to have become the support group for flower runners?


Anywho... My name is Craven and I'm a recovering flower runner. At first I flew the cash routes. It doesn't seem to have changed much since Brogo just posted about Argentina and UK being the best cash/minute destinations. After achieving all of the "travel here 50 times" merits my attitude towards the money started to shift. It became more of a chore than a hobby. I started to resent the game that had spawned so many good memories. So my running ceased for the time being.

A few months after I started running again, but this time I was motivated by points. I had a few faction wars going, and quickly recognized that the cheapest way to acquire points is to fly for flowers. It was remarkable how quickly flying became a chore yet again. I started to buy the flowers from the market. I still found that if I was diligent that I could come out well ahead of points market prices. That was good for a time, until I acquired a decent size pool of points for future use.

Now I sit here on the sidelines waiting to scratch that itch again. Thankfully I hardly ever gamble or else I would have to keep running flowers. Having been on pretty much all sides of the trade I can't say as I found a bad side to it. Every part of the chain has their function, and they're all generating income. You guys have fun flying; I'm going to go race my Lexus some more.

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:59:56
Last time I posted an analysis of what was most rewarding those routes got completely flooded.
The heck it don't change! I fully expect the UK and Argentina to tank like Canada and Hawaii the previous month.

Obviously, I am eager to get the history education over with. Money by commerce rather than industry

But the flights themselves do remain worthwhile. I think I'm doing about 150-180 MLN/month based on 5 days/week.

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:53:01
to stop myself gong mad. i set a goal like in my display im collecting 600 of each flower so that i can cash them all in at once for hundreds of millions much more rewarding:P

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 13:40:09
I've just started getting back into flying for the merits - and with only China, Dubai and Africa to do I'm getting a pretty penny in from each flight. It's amazing money for younger players and I'm not going to turn my nose up at it. Although I'm not sure it'd sustain an FHC habit.

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Posted on Wed Apr 17, 2013 14:23:09
I've been flower running for a while now, I originally started running drugs many moons ago and built up a good income in my young torn days. I ran drugs for the majority of top factions, it was mainly Vicodin back then.

I now rent out my 11 Private Islands to flower runners who can't afford to buy or rent Islands themselves.

So if anyone need an island to rent - come see me

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