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Exchange
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| Posted on Sun Mar 10, 2013 17:42:34
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Probably because we are immature, student or in our twenties and therefor have no common sense or good judgement, are power hungry and abusive, in general are just assholes that forward ideas to the game only to benefit ourselfs and use the inside knowledge to get ahead,
are rude, have lil pea size brains, are obtrusive douches, are too arrogant for our own good, are lame and pure dictators, are a bunch of emo moderators that really don't care who we piss off, are dumb and impulsive and because bogie didn't wanna share the cookies.
That about sums it up, asccording to the posts in this thread.
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I'm glad I know why now. Thank you very much for clearing this question up for me too
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Hahahahha
I am having a laughing fit
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| Posted on Sun Mar 10, 2013 18:00:17
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piss people off
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People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!?
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By Exchange [978092]
By Aime [760224]
By Passie [936578]
Probably because we are immature, student or in our twenties and therefor have no common sense or good judgement, are power hungry and abusive, in general are just assholes that forward ideas to the game only to benefit ourselfs and use the inside knowledge to get ahead,
are rude, have lil pea size brains, are obtrusive douches, are too arrogant for our own good, are lame and pure dictators, are a bunch of emo moderators that really don't care who we piss off, are dumb and impulsive and because bogie didn't wanna share the cookies.
That about sums it up, asccording to the posts in this thread.
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I'm glad I know why now. Thank you very much for clearing this question up for me too
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Hahahahha
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roflmao...
serious note- all staff shouldn't be penalized for one persons epic stupid attack. that staff member should be handled accordingly.
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| Posted on Sun Mar 10, 2013 19:51:09
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By iiNsane [1006280]
People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think.
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| Posted on Sun Mar 10, 2013 19:54:59
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By DarthBrogo [21801]
By iiNsane [1006280]
People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers
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All I gotta say is if Hinata is the same Hinata that was around here years ago, she most likely deserves whatever she got from staff. The chick has a MAJOR attitude problem. Always has. More likely than not she really DOES need a reality check - and that's coming from a guy that spends wayyy too much time on the computer.
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 08:40:45
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By iiNsane [1006280]
By DarthBrogo [21801]
By iiNsane [1006280]
People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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BuckWyld
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 09:04:41
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By Dawn [226054]
By iiNsane [1006280]
By DarthBrogo [21801]
By iiNsane [1006280]
People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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That's purely speculation & can be interpreted in any number of ways. From both sides.
i.e. i can be reprimanded by a staff member, But might choose to bounty them for another un related reason. & as such said staff can hand out a punishment saying i was only acting in retaliation to their punishment.
Either way you look at it. IT IS a stupid rule, & should be done away with. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of pissing people off. Don't take the responsibility associated with having taken on the role as "disciplinarian".
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 09:23:23
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By BuckWyld [1009930]
By Dawn [226054]
By iiNsane [1006280]
By DarthBrogo [21801]
By iiNsane [1006280]
People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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That's purely speculation & can be interpreted in any number of ways. From both sides.
i.e. i can be reprimanded by a staff member, But might choose to bounty them for another un related reason. & as such said staff can hand out a punishment saying i was only acting in retaliation to their punishment.
Either way you look at it. IT IS a stupid rule, & should be done away with. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of pissing people off. Don't take the responsibility associated with having taken on the role as "disciplinarian".
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Your logic is flawed and thats a pretty weird view .
Oh and said staff wouldnt because we dont take action on anything relating to ourselves friends or enemies.
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BuckWyld
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 09:36:03
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By Dawn [226054]
By iiNsane [1006280]
By DarthBrogo [21801]
By iiNsane [1006280]
People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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That's purely speculation & can be interpreted in any number of ways. From both sides.
i.e. i can be reprimanded by a staff member, But might choose to bounty them for another un related reason. & as such said staff can hand out a punishment saying i was only acting in retaliation to their punishment.
Either way you look at it. IT IS a stupid rule, & should be done away with. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of pissing people off. Don't take the responsibility associated with having taken on the role as "disciplinarian".
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Your logic is flawed and thats a pretty weird view .
Oh and said staff wouldnt because we dont take action on anything relating to ourselves friends or enemies.
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Reading over what i said, It doesn't look like i said 1 single thing about staff or player in question being friends or enemies.
But since you think my logic is "flawed", would care to give any detail as to how?
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I sense that the strawman argument is strong in this one.
Seriously think about it just for a minute - if a staff member gives a player a warning / mail ban / forum ban or graves a thread they have started and that player turns around and bounties the staff member in question then the motivation for doing so is pretty clear.
"Unrelated reason" my arse... lol
Players becoming pissed off over being "disciplined" because they have crossed the line in some way doesn't automatically give them a right of retaliation against the staff member involved (either by keeping them in white personally or doing same with bounties) - I'm pretty sure that is the reasoning behind the rule and it's not an unreasonable position for Ched to take imo (bearing in mind the distinct possibility that the staff member in question may not be able to defend themselves in game against a stronger player they have had to discipline).
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Dawn
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:23:18
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By BuckWyld [1009930]
By Dawn [226054]
By iiNsane [1006280]
By DarthBrogo [21801]
By iiNsane [1006280]
People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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That's purely speculation & can be interpreted in any number of ways. From both sides.
i.e. i can be reprimanded by a staff member, But might choose to bounty them for another un related reason. & as such said staff can hand out a punishment saying i was only acting in retaliation to their punishment.
Either way you look at it. IT IS a stupid rule, & should be done away with. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of pissing people off. Don't take the responsibility associated with having taken on the role as "disciplinarian".
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How is it a stupid rule? Why should someone's gameplay have to suffer for HELPING the game? That makes no sense at all.
Oh, I just looked at who's posting....Don't know why I even bothered to respond.
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:28:37
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By Butters [34298]
I sense that the strawman argument is strong in this one.
Seriously think about it just for a minute - if a staff member gives a player a warning / mail ban / forum ban or graves a thread they have started and that player turns around and bounties the staff member in question then the motivation for doing so is pretty clear.
"Unrelated reason" my arse... lol
Players becoming pissed off over being "disciplined" because they have crossed the line in some way doesn't automatically give them a right of retaliation against the staff member involved (either by keeping them in white personally or doing same with bounties) - I'm pretty sure that is the reasoning behind the rule and it's not an unreasonable position for Ched to take imo (bearing in mind the distinct possibility that the staff member in question may not be able to defend themselves in game against a stronger player they have had to discipline). |
I disagree due to the fact that how staff treat them WHILE doing it could be a factor (see the ban on the guy that did it for example) In the future he'd at the very least have legitimate reasons based on their comment towards him on his profile. That's different than for "doing their jobs". Also when anyone can openly bounty anyone for life for ANY reason as it's a crime game I think staff go too far by protecting themselves from this. I could bounty you for life because I don't like you using the word "arse" for example.
I feel due to the fact that it's been defended by staff even in the past as something that's part of the game as a crime game and no one needs a reason at all to endlessly bounty you even if you're a new player that their stance is wrong. I feel they should be just as open to bounties.
That said again focusing on my first sentence I guarantee (well I guess I can't since I'm not staff) if he did bounty them based on that he'd be fedded again for multiple of the same offense when really their comment towards him on his profile IS a legitimate reason beyond the ban itself. It's a case of the police doing the policing regarding themselves.
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:45:46
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If I chose to permabounty a staff member out of the blue, like religiously bountied them for the rest of the time I played the game would there be no problem, then?
I've seen a few staff members say things in chat, not related to their position as staff, that I would bounty another player for.
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 13:22:39
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Im gonna side with the "player" on this 1 & say.
If the arrogant obtrusive douche that wrote "Someone must force you from the basement - you definitely need a reality check. Enjoy your time off! " on another players profile, Just to display there online powers of awesomeness were any batter. Then they would not have reduced them selves to such blatently " i am awesomer than you" tactics. By so arrogantly displaying the fact that, I got the last word in hahaha.
& if they could take 1 second to wrap there lil pea brained head around something other than there "imaginary world Sheriff's badge". They would see that these "basement dweller's" that they like to so arrogantly ridicule were not who they are, & actually took the time to follow there advice. Then Torn would not be as successful as it is. & they would not have such imaginary powers go to there head.
IF ANYTHING they should be thanking these people for not having a life & taking this as seriously as they do. Or at least Ched should. cause there the one's paying his livelyhood.
But if history here has showed us anything. we all know that will never happen. |
http://www.torn.com/attacklogs.php?ID=48789649
!powerhungryabusivedictatorhaxon
BuckWyld Vs Foxxeh
BuckWyld hit with their Harpoon in the right foot for 132603 damage
Foxxeh missed with their Tavor TAR-21
BuckWyld reloaded their Harpoon
Foxxeh missed with their Tavor TAR-21
BuckWyld hit with their Harpoon in the chest for 355893 damage
Foxxeh missed with their Crossbow
BuckWyld reloaded their Harpoon
Foxxeh hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the chest for 57921 damage
BuckWyld hit with their Harpoon in the left arm for 563158 damage
Foxxeh hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the head for 458428 damage
BuckWyld stalemated to Foxxeh
!powerhungryabusivedictatorhaxoff
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BuckWyld
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 13:29:50
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By Dawn [226054]
By BuckWyld [1009930]
By Dawn [226054]
By iiNsane [1006280]
By DarthBrogo [21801]
By iiNsane [1006280]
People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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That's purely speculation & can be interpreted in any number of ways. From both sides.
i.e. i can be reprimanded by a staff member, But might choose to bounty them for another un related reason. & as such said staff can hand out a punishment saying i was only acting in retaliation to their punishment.
Either way you look at it. IT IS a stupid rule, & should be done away with. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of pissing people off. Don't take the responsibility associated with having taken on the role as "disciplinarian".
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How is it a stupid rule? Why should someone's gameplay have to suffer for HELPING the game? That makes no sense at all.
Oh, I just looked at who's posting....Don't know why I even bothered to respond.
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while i guess i should be offended be the later part of your comment. seeing you post in the past has left me with a feeling of wanting to regurgitate my lunch, so let's just say the feelings mutual. But it is good to know that you think insulting potential customers & there credit card numbers is "HELPING" the game.
I would respond to Butters. But Beerstein allready did a fine job, so I'll leave it at that.
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BuckWyld
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 13:36:46
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By Foxxeh [733751]
By BuckWyld [1009930]
Im gonna side with the "player" on this 1 & say.
If the arrogant obtrusive douche that wrote "Someone must force you from the basement - you definitely need a reality check. Enjoy your time off! " on another players profile, Just to display there online powers of awesomeness were any batter. Then they would not have reduced them selves to such blatently " i am awesomer than you" tactics. By so arrogantly displaying the fact that, I got the last word in hahaha.
& if they could take 1 second to wrap there lil pea brained head around something other than there "imaginary world Sheriff's badge". They would see that these "basement dweller's" that they like to so arrogantly ridicule were not who they are, & actually took the time to follow there advice. Then Torn would not be as successful as it is. & they would not have such imaginary powers go to there head.
IF ANYTHING they should be thanking these people for not having a life & taking this as seriously as they do. Or at least Ched should. cause there the one's paying his livelyhood.
But if history here has showed us anything. we all know that will never happen. |
http://www.torn.com/attacklogs.php?ID=48789649
!powerhungryabusivedictatorhaxon
BuckWyld Vs Foxxeh
BuckWyld hit with their Harpoon in the right foot for 132603 damage
Foxxeh missed with their Tavor TAR-21
BuckWyld reloaded their Harpoon
Foxxeh missed with their Tavor TAR-21
BuckWyld hit with their Harpoon in the chest for 355893 damage
Foxxeh missed with their Crossbow
BuckWyld reloaded their Harpoon
Foxxeh hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the chest for 57921 damage
BuckWyld hit with their Harpoon in the left arm for 563158 damage
Foxxeh hit with their Diamond Bladed Knife in the head for 458428 damage
BuckWyld stalemated to Foxxeh
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You power hungry lil vixen you . I call abuse of power.
Just to clarify Im not referring to ALL staff. Just the 1 in particular regarding to this situation. sry if i came off as cliche in that sense. We all know you have an upbeat & fun personality Foxxeh. Its a shame they can't all behave in your manner.
Nice fight btw. events like this is the only reason i have sustained an interest in this game all these years.
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 14:43:08
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By Butters [34298]
I sense that the strawman argument is strong in this one.
Seriously think about it just for a minute - if a staff member gives a player a warning / mail ban / forum ban or graves a thread they have started and that player turns around and bounties the staff member in question then the motivation for doing so is pretty clear.
"Unrelated reason" my arse... lol
Players becoming pissed off over being "disciplined" because they have crossed the line in some way doesn't automatically give them a right of retaliation against the staff member involved (either by keeping them in white personally or doing same with bounties) - I'm pretty sure that is the reasoning behind the rule and it's not an unreasonable position for Ched to take imo (bearing in mind the distinct possibility that the staff member in question may not be able to defend themselves in game against a stronger player they have had to discipline). |
staff are anonymous when they warn you.
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 15:41:04
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Your logic is flawed and thats a pretty weird view .
Oh and said staff wouldnt because we dont take action on anything relating to ourselves friends or enemies.
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logic in torn city? now you're just making shit up. =P
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lilylipss
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By atentat [1583407]
By Butters [34298]
I sense that the strawman argument is strong in this one.
Seriously think about it just for a minute - if a staff member gives a player a warning / mail ban / forum ban or graves a thread they have started and that player turns around and bounties the staff member in question then the motivation for doing so is pretty clear.
"Unrelated reason" my arse... lol
Players becoming pissed off over being "disciplined" because they have crossed the line in some way doesn't automatically give them a right of retaliation against the staff member involved (either by keeping them in white personally or doing same with bounties) - I'm pretty sure that is the reasoning behind the rule and it's not an unreasonable position for Ched to take imo (bearing in mind the distinct possibility that the staff member in question may not be able to defend themselves in game against a stronger player they have had to discipline). |
staff are anonymous when they warn you. |
That's prolly why they bountied all staff then...
but i must say that sometimes you can tell who it is.. say i accidentally had posted a trade in global and i got a verbal warning.. after that u then receive a written warning and with some staff it actually goes straight to a ban. hence it kinda tells ya who it was.. Just sayin'.
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By lilylipss [1561064]
By atentat [1583407]
By Butters [34298]
I sense that the strawman argument is strong in this one.
Seriously think about it just for a minute - if a staff member gives a player a warning / mail ban / forum ban or graves a thread they have started and that player turns around and bounties the staff member in question then the motivation for doing so is pretty clear.
"Unrelated reason" my arse... lol
Players becoming pissed off over being "disciplined" because they have crossed the line in some way doesn't automatically give them a right of retaliation against the staff member involved (either by keeping them in white personally or doing same with bounties) - I'm pretty sure that is the reasoning behind the rule and it's not an unreasonable position for Ched to take imo (bearing in mind the distinct possibility that the staff member in question may not be able to defend themselves in game against a stronger player they have had to discipline). |
staff are anonymous when they warn you. |
That's prolly why they bountied all staff then...
but i must say that sometimes you can tell who it is.. say i accidentally had posted a trade in global and i got a verbal warning.. after that u then receive a written warning and with some staff it actually goes straight to a ban. hence it kinda tells ya who it was.. Just sayin'.
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there is no name of staff, not for warning, not for ban.
just sayin'
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 17:02:57
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By atentat [1583407]
By lilylipss [1561064]
By atentat [1583407]
By Butters [34298]
I sense that the strawman argument is strong in this one.
Seriously think about it just for a minute - if a staff member gives a player a warning / mail ban / forum ban or graves a thread they have started and that player turns around and bounties the staff member in question then the motivation for doing so is pretty clear.
"Unrelated reason" my arse... lol
Players becoming pissed off over being "disciplined" because they have crossed the line in some way doesn't automatically give them a right of retaliation against the staff member involved (either by keeping them in white personally or doing same with bounties) - I'm pretty sure that is the reasoning behind the rule and it's not an unreasonable position for Ched to take imo (bearing in mind the distinct possibility that the staff member in question may not be able to defend themselves in game against a stronger player they have had to discipline). |
staff are anonymous when they warn you. |
That's prolly why they bountied all staff then...
but i must say that sometimes you can tell who it is.. say i accidentally had posted a trade in global and i got a verbal warning.. after that u then receive a written warning and with some staff it actually goes straight to a ban. hence it kinda tells ya who it was.. Just sayin'.
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there is no name of staff, not for warning, not for ban.
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Because they be scared lol
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Butters
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| Posted on Mon Mar 11, 2013 20:05:28
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@Beerstein - what load of bollocks. If something is said that you don't like in the course of your "interaction" with a staff member who has pulled you up on a transgression, then any future bountying in "retaliation" for that comment is [u]directly[/b] related to to that interaction.
Where I come from if you screw up then you take your licks - including any backhander that comes your way (even if you do grumble about it a bit) - and move on.
The real problem is that some players just refuse to let up out of some misplaced sense of entitlement - I suspect that may be the case with Hinata as it really does take quite a bit to get yourself a month-long ban (then again who is saying that the bountying of staff was the sole reason or even a part of the reason for Hinata's ban - someone just put that name forward and we drew the conclusion that it was handed out for laying down the bounties ourselves).
I'm not immune to raging a bit at a staff member who has done something I don't agree with myself, but just because I think they were being a bit of a jackass (and I'm certainly not faultless in that regard either when my back is up) it doesn't mean I'm going to (or am entitled to) carry a grudge forward and keep harassing them for essentially doing their job.
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BuckWyld
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Curious Butters. Are you typing this from the ipad Ched gave ya?
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lilylipss
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| Posted on Tue Mar 12, 2013 01:46:43
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By atentat [1583407]
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I sense that the strawman argument is strong in this one.
Seriously think about it just for a minute - if a staff member gives a player a warning / mail ban / forum ban or graves a thread they have started and that player turns around and bounties the staff member in question then the motivation for doing so is pretty clear.
"Unrelated reason" my arse... lol
Players becoming pissed off over being "disciplined" because they have crossed the line in some way doesn't automatically give them a right of retaliation against the staff member involved (either by keeping them in white personally or doing same with bounties) - I'm pretty sure that is the reasoning behind the rule and it's not an unreasonable position for Ched to take imo (bearing in mind the distinct possibility that the staff member in question may not be able to defend themselves in game against a stronger player they have had to discipline). |
staff are anonymous when they warn you. |
That's prolly why they bountied all staff then...
but i must say that sometimes you can tell who it is.. say i accidentally had posted a trade in global and i got a verbal warning.. after that u then receive a written warning and with some staff it actually goes straight to a ban. hence it kinda tells ya who it was.. Just sayin'.
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there is no name of staff, not for warning, not for ban.
just sayin' |
Again if you are however warned say in global chat by a certain staff member and then in mail u will be warned again or possibly you get a ban it does kind of tell ya who it was. Oh and i was warned in chat by a certain staff member and automatically sent a mail and a ban within seconds of that for a first time mistake in posting.. It was done by same staff member that was in global i received warning from.
Sometimes it just is that easy to figure out.. just sayin'.
Last Edited: Tue Mar 12, 2013 01:51:38
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| Posted on Tue Mar 12, 2013 01:55:08
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People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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That's purely speculation & can be interpreted in any number of ways. From both sides.
i.e. i can be reprimanded by a staff member, But might choose to bounty them for another un related reason. & as such said staff can hand out a punishment saying i was only acting in retaliation to their punishment.
Either way you look at it. IT IS a stupid rule, & should be done away with. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of pissing people off. Don't take the responsibility associated with having taken on the role as "disciplinarian".
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Your logic is flawed and thats a pretty weird view .
Oh and said staff wouldnt because we dont take action on anything relating to ourselves friends or enemies.
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Reading over what i said, It doesn't look like i said 1 single thing about staff or player in question being friends or enemies.
But since you think my logic is "flawed", would care to give any detail as to how?
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Sure an example of what you are saying is acceptable
"A policeman gave me a ticket for speeding and it pissed me off so I attacked him."
What your saying is that this is perfectly acceptable even though he is doing his job.
Hence your logic is flawed.
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| Posted on Tue Mar 12, 2013 03:01:10
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By DaveO [887166]
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People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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That's purely speculation & can be interpreted in any number of ways. From both sides.
i.e. i can be reprimanded by a staff member, But might choose to bounty them for another un related reason. & as such said staff can hand out a punishment saying i was only acting in retaliation to their punishment.
Either way you look at it. IT IS a stupid rule, & should be done away with. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of pissing people off. Don't take the responsibility associated with having taken on the role as "disciplinarian".
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Your logic is flawed and thats a pretty weird view .
Oh and said staff wouldnt because we dont take action on anything relating to ourselves friends or enemies.
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Reading over what i said, It doesn't look like i said 1 single thing about staff or player in question being friends or enemies.
But since you think my logic is "flawed", would care to give any detail as to how?
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Sure an example of what you are saying is acceptable
"A policeman gave me a ticket for speeding and it pissed me off so I attacked him."
What your saying is that this is perfectly acceptable even though he is doing his job.
Hence your logic is flawed.
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I think what he was saying was more along the lines of:
"A policeman gave me a ticket, then I got home later and caught him in bed with my wife, so I attacked him." (The clue was in the word 'unrelated'.)
I've seen staff members say all kinds of shit in chat that got me riled up the wrong way. And as Atentat is saying, they're anonymous when they warn you for stuff.
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| Posted on Tue Mar 12, 2013 03:06:03
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People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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That's purely speculation & can be interpreted in any number of ways. From both sides.
i.e. i can be reprimanded by a staff member, But might choose to bounty them for another un related reason. & as such said staff can hand out a punishment saying i was only acting in retaliation to their punishment.
Either way you look at it. IT IS a stupid rule, & should be done away with. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of pissing people off. Don't take the responsibility associated with having taken on the role as "disciplinarian".
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Your logic is flawed and thats a pretty weird view .
Oh and said staff wouldnt because we dont take action on anything relating to ourselves friends or enemies.
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Reading over what i said, It doesn't look like i said 1 single thing about staff or player in question being friends or enemies.
But since you think my logic is "flawed", would care to give any detail as to how?
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Sure an example of what you are saying is acceptable
"A policeman gave me a ticket for speeding and it pissed me off so I attacked him."
What your saying is that this is perfectly acceptable even though he is doing his job.
Hence your logic is flawed.
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not going to lie, the first name that came to my head was Rodney King, after reading that post.
some interesting discussion had though, personally i find the bounty policy dated, for everyones reference, this policy was enacted at a time when bounty fees were returned when a bounty was bought off, such is no longer the case these days, personally if i knew what all the commotion was about regarding Hinata currently and i thought their views were wrong, i'd simply have a good ole fashion pissing contest and buy off all their bounties for a lark.
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| Posted on Tue Mar 12, 2013 06:28:39
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By Dawn [226054]
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People STILL cry about bounties? Especially the staff? Geez can I have some instead!? |
I haven't heard the staff crying about them.
No one over level 15 gives a toss, I think. |
If they fedded the guy over it then it must've ruffled their feathers |
Maybe you should read the part of the tos where you can't retaliate against staff for doing their job? It's not ruffled feathers, it's against the tos -_-
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That's purely speculation & can be interpreted in any number of ways. From both sides.
i.e. i can be reprimanded by a staff member, But might choose to bounty them for another un related reason. & as such said staff can hand out a punishment saying i was only acting in retaliation to their punishment.
Either way you look at it. IT IS a stupid rule, & should be done away with. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of pissing people off. Don't take the responsibility associated with having taken on the role as "disciplinarian".
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How is it a stupid rule? Why should someone's gameplay have to suffer for HELPING the game? That makes no sense at all.
Oh, I just looked at who's posting....Don't know why I even bothered to respond.
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Everyone says 'Oh the staff work for free and help the game'. My left foot. Honestly there is absolutely no shortage of people who want to become staff, and they dont work for free, although im not sure about this i think they get paid when thier staff iteams are sold for the 1st time.
And if i was in Hinata place and I found out who wrote that on my profile i would probably bounty them again, or maybe pay a freind to bounty them (Then the cant make up excuses to fed u), i wouldnt do that because i was fedded (if it was eightfully so) but because u said i spend too much time in my basement, wha ti do is my problem, if u r fedding me some reason right the reason and let everyone know what it was instead of using crap to cover your own ass.
@ DarthBrogo this is in reply to this post too.
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Clansy , Ched should look into this matter with seriousness.
This is extreme abuse of power. |
Get a grip on reality!
Sure it is abuse of power - but to call THIS extreme?
What are you going to call it when a wielder of power decides to dissapear somebody?
Staff appears to be fairly full of students and twenty-somethings,
not exactly a demographic known for good judgement or common sense,
but rather known for... let us say spring-break behaviour and such.
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oh sure staff are young so they can be impulsive and do what ever they want, imagine if someone fedded u and gave u that as a reason......im sure u would say its okay...the staff are at an impulsive age. |
More likely I would say 'sod them' and henceforth ignore their existence socially.
And I would again be mindful that the pool of people who are properly qualfied, sufficiently stable, and put up with as much shit as the staff has to put up with - all without getting paid for it! - is NOT unlimited.
EDIT: you're so vain, you probably think this post is about you. |
atleast the not geting paid part.
Last Edited: Tue Mar 12, 2013 06:31:40
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