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DocHoliday
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Thread created on Fri Feb 08, 2013 07:01:24
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To clarify this question concerns passive stat gains earned through education courses. As in (you have complete "insert whatever") course. Congratulations you've received a 1% speed bonus on passive stats.
Last Edited: Fri Feb 08, 2013 07:04:01
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AquaRegia
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 07:05:46
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Yes, that's what makes them passive (0 votes)
That's not what "passive" means.
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DocHoliday
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 07:13:13
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I kinda figure passive to mean "only working when used"...Offense for sure, but on Defense? That's the question.
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 07:16:41
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Both its meant to be Perk for completing a certain course
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 07:53:02
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By DocHoliday [1015507]
I kinda figure passive to mean "only working when used"...Offense for sure, but on Defense? That's the question. |
Passive is just the opposite of active, as in you don't have to activate the boost somehow (like you do with epinephrine).
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evanarmagast
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 08:58:46
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i feel like defenders get enough of a disadvantage already with the way that battle stats are set up
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crazy? i'm not crazy. i'm a table. |
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:46:56
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By evanarmagast [512496]
i feel like defenders get enough of a disadvantage already with the way that battle stats are set up |
This.
Passive bonuses should have constant effect, attacking or defending.
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 13:30:01
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both ways. (59)
if it were only offense, then you would need a shit ton of defense to survive. balance the passive opportunities out, and all will be good.
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 13:57:50
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Correct me if I'm wrong but does it not read:
Congratulations you've received a 1% passive bonus on speed.
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 13:59:55
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By evanarmagast [512496]
i feel like defenders get enough of a disadvantage already with the way that battle stats are set up |
I agree with this.
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 14:00:24
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Why have passive stats at all if it doesn“t work both ways?
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 14:05:43
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The question is on passive stat gains....not passive stats.
Education bonuses are passive gains on any of the 4 battle stats.
No matter what your total is for any given battle stat, if you have finished the course you get a further 1% passive gain (does not show on your total)
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 14:50:51
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No, it should work both ways cos merits are valuable, precious and hard to get'em more or less.
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 16:12:27
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By 2dogs [1014664]
The question is on passive stat gains....not passive stats.
Education bonuses are passive gains on any of the 4 battle stats.
No matter what your total is for any given battle stat, if you have finished the course you get a further 1% passive gain (does not show on your total) |
you are confused me thinks. there are many educations that give a passive boost to your stats.
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 18:00:22
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By 2dogs [1014664]
The question is on passive stat gains....not passive stats.
Education bonuses are passive gains on any of the 4 battle stats.
No matter what your total is for any given battle stat, if you have finished the course you get a further 1% passive gain (does not show on your total) |
Faction: + 10% Gym Gains
Property: + 2% Gym Gains
Merit: + Strength
Merit: + Speed
Merit: + Dexterity
Merit: + Defense
Education: + 1% Strength Gym Gains
Education: + 1% Speed Gym Gains
Education: + 1% Defense Gym Gains
Education: + 1% Dexterity Gym Gains
Education: + 1% Gym Gains
Education: + 5% Strength
Education: + 13% Speed
Education: + 19% Dexterity
Education: + 11% Defense
passive stats
increased gym gains
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 19:18:37
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I would rather them fix the fact that defense is waaaay to strong attacking and dex is far too weak attacking
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 19:59:38
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I would rather them fix the fact that defense is waaaay to strong attacking and dex is far too weak attacking |
This
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Posted on Fri Feb 08, 2013 21:21:50
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I would rather them fix the fact that defense is waaaay to strong attacking and dex is far too weak attacking |
I would agree. Seems to me that i got hit like 1 in every 5 or 6 of my hits in attacking even their speed are 1/100 of my dex. I don't know much about usefulness of def since i got pretty low (60k) def. but ya, people said def works good in attacking.
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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 00:18:38
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It needs to both or even a boost when defending
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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 03:07:05
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By CompanyHiring [266775]
I would rather them fix the fact that defense is waaaay to strong attacking and dex is far too weak attacking |
^^
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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 08:39:20
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I would rather them fix the fact that defense is waaaay to strong attacking and dex is far too weak attacking |
Sure, Ched can hop right on this as soon as he sets the dex of self busters to a max of a few billion. Otherwise you have people walking around with 30b+ dex that cannot be touched. Until that happens, dex will have to stay nerfed.
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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 08:56:49
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The attack code is so whack that it probably doesn't play as often as you think.
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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 09:24:34
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Both ways
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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 09:30:35
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By AquaRegia [1551111]
By DocHoliday [1015507]
I kinda figure passive to mean "only working when used"...Offense for sure, but on Defense? That's the question. |
Passive is just the opposite of active, as in you don't have to activate the boost somehow (like you do with epinephrine). |
irl the terms mean:
passive: something that stays constant in on or off position, until a secondary unit (often humans ) tell it to change.. (f.eks a lamp with a manual switch)
active: something that has the ability to detect when it's needed, and turn itself on or off accordingly.. (f.eks a lamp with a light sensor)
so.. in torn,
passive stats stays activated (for both atk and def) until you remove/reset whatever give the bonus..
if it should work only when you need it to atk, it would also have to change name to active stats..
(that term wouldn make any sense on stats tho. cause the stats are just as much needed in def)
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Posted on Sat Feb 09, 2013 09:49:35
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Should work both ways.
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Posted on Sun Feb 10, 2013 01:43:27
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Hi im 12 years old and what is this?
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Posted on Sun Feb 10, 2013 20:06:44
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By CompanyHiring [266775]
I would rather them fix the fact that defense is waaaay to strong attacking and dex is far too weak attacking |
Ah another ex-selfbuster who wants his abnormal busting % gains on dex to get full effect again, whilst the rest of Torn population can screw themselves for not having self busted in the past.
I dont expect Ched to actually fall for your request bro.
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Posted on Mon Feb 11, 2013 00:01:49
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By evanarmagast [512496]
i feel like defenders get enough of a disadvantage already with the way that battle stats are set up |
This.
Passive bonuses should have constant effect, attacking or defending. |
I agree. I was mainly curious about the Passive bonuses obtained through Education courses. I would hope the merits spent on stats would work both ways for sure.
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Posted on Mon Feb 11, 2013 02:15:09
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I would rather them fix the fact that defense is waaaay to strong attacking and dex is far too weak attacking |
Ah another ex-selfbuster who wants his abnormal busting % gains on dex to get full effect again, whilst the rest of Torn population can screw themselves for not having self busted in the past.
I dont expect Ched to actually fall for your request bro. |
I feel like it should because it was available to all. It would be like saying that they should take away drugs then dial back stats of the people that used them. I didn't do a crime or train anything else for a year and I feel that my honestly earned stats should work.
Than again dex is probably too powerful on defense and defense isn't effective enough defending.
Some one that whores defense, neglects everything else, has zero dex and a 20th my dex in speed should never beat me but yet it happens all the time. Whom ever attacks with defense wins, should be fixed.
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Posted on Mon Feb 11, 2013 13:43:46
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Yes, that's what makes them passive (13 votes)
No, it should work both ways (221 votes) |
Apparently, 19% dex boost from education isn't so great problem
Last Edited: Mon Feb 11, 2013 13:45:46
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Posted on Mon Feb 11, 2013 13:45:24
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I went for the third option just for the giggles
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meh
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