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Belwilliam

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Posted on Sun Apr 08, 2012 09:00:15
I unlocked Cha Cha's about 12-14 hours ago. I checked and FF was already unlocked. I was able to buy and activate FF w/o buying Cha Cha's...nice since I'm not planning on training dex/defense for at least another month or so.

My Str+Spd is more than 55.5% of my stats.

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nerbas

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Posted on Sun Apr 08, 2012 15:48:40
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Regarding the stat-percentage str+spd to def+dex I find that 55.33% does not unlock a special gym like Frontline Fitness but 55.74 does... So it seems that 55% is not quite enough to have


Can you work that out better? Maybe playing with your stats. Im thinking about something like 55.5% lol


Alright, after repeatedly getting and losing access to Frontline Fitness I can now confirm, that the deciding percentage of str+spd is around 55.555%

Ilost access when I hit 55.5534987% and gained it again at 55.5560632%. You lose access instantly when havin less than 55.555% but when gaining above 55.555% you have to train once more to get access again.




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Posted on Mon Apr 09, 2012 03:51:05
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all equal but no special here if that helps


Do you mean all your stats are equal, you hit Cha Chas and none of the special gyms were unlocked?

I hope not, cuz I'm just about all equal and will be all equal by the time I get there


According with the 55.5% theory, people like me and you with equal stats won't have access to Frontiline Fitnesse or Balboas.


That sucks. Any word on if it'd open up a different special gym instead for people who train like us?


stfu, kthnxbai.
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Posted on Mon Apr 09, 2012 03:54:46
By nerbas [1335768]
By Darkkk [196761]
By nerbas [1335768]
Regarding the stat-percentage str+spd to def+dex I find that 55.33% does not unlock a special gym like Frontline Fitness but 55.74 does... So it seems that 55% is not quite enough to have


Can you work that out better? Maybe playing with your stats. Im thinking about something like 55.5% lol


Alright, after repeatedly getting and losing access to Frontline Fitness I can now confirm, that the deciding percentage of str+spd is around 55.555%

Ilost access when I hit 55.5534987% and gained it again at 55.5560632%. You lose access instantly when havin less than 55.555% but when gaining above 55.555% you have to train once more to get access again.




Perfect confirmation right there. Thanks Nerbas


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Darkkk

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Posted on Mon Apr 09, 2012 07:33:08
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all equal but no special here if that helps


Do you mean all your stats are equal, you hit Cha Chas and none of the special gyms were unlocked?

I hope not, cuz I'm just about all equal and will be all equal by the time I get there


According with the 55.5% theory, people like me and you with equal stats won't have access to Frontiline Fitnesse or Balboas.


That sucks. Any word on if it'd open up a different special gym instead for people who train like us?


No, not really



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Azrael

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Posted on Mon Apr 09, 2012 08:24:03
I am bringing up DEF to balance my stats and i lost frontline this morning.

Im not training speed/strength for a long time yet so ill keep going until Balboas opens for me

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joeykickdoors

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Posted on Mon Apr 09, 2012 08:25:03
Looks like I'll have to start modifying how I train as I get closer to Cha Chas


stfu, kthnxbai.
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Numpe

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Posted on Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:41:24
Someone must hava Atlas open by these days!!

Show yourselfs

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Posted on Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:03:09
I think I saw where DemonSkye said he had a life changing event that didn't allow him time to spend on this thread anymore and requested that someone send him the info required to keep this thread up to date. Has anyone done that for him?

Love the thread, but I am getting close and it isn't helping as much to make training decisions.



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Posted on Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:38:13
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I think I saw where DemonSkye said he had a life changing event that didn't allow him time to spend on this thread anymore and requested that someone send him the info required to keep this thread up to date. Has anyone done that for him?

Love the thread, but I am getting close and it isn't helping as much to make training decisions.


http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=3&ID=14374048

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Entropy

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Posted on Tue Apr 10, 2012 14:21:08
This should be moved to the wiki so that it can be continued regardless of the original author.


Well folks, thats it, I've left the game. To those of you who think of me as a friend, I thank you and wish you all the best. Enjoy the game, and take care.
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Posted on Tue Apr 10, 2012 17:38:50
Thanks for the link AquaRegia

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Posted on Tue Apr 10, 2012 18:55:57
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Someone must hava Atlas open by these days!!

Show yourselfs


I think that someone posted that about half a month ago.

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ierofantis

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Posted on Tue Apr 10, 2012 19:54:15
still nothing for equals!!!:(

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Posted on Wed Apr 11, 2012 01:51:28
Awesome thread m8:)

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Posted on Wed Apr 11, 2012 02:13:16
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still nothing for equals!!!:(


as i said earlier,
based on heavy's membership cost, there's no such thing as special gyms for balanced ppl.
i'm not really sure tho. one of this gyms : The Sports Science Lab and Unknown are for non drug user gym. the other one could be for balanced ppl.

but this four : Gym 3000, Mr. Isoyamas, Total Rebound and Elites, are definitely for WHORE. not 100%, i'm sure of it.
this four will be unlocked right after you unlock Last Round (GYM after Atlas).

and the last two gym (sports science lab and unknown) will be unlocked right after you unlock George's (last heavy gym).

this is just my conclusion BASED on membership cost


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Posted on Wed Apr 11, 2012 09:59:21
so,what's wrong with mine? I already unlocked cha cha's and going about 10% on it but I have not unlocked any special gym. I got a total 55%+ speed strength of my stats.

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Posted on Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:45:28
You lasted 2 rounds sparring with Drago attempting 5 haymakers that didn't even shake him

Does there come a time when I can drop this mofo or what?


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Posted on Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:42:52
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so,what's wrong with mine? I already unlocked cha cha's and going about 10% on it but I have not unlocked any special gym. I got a total 55%+ speed strength of my stats.


You need at least 55.555%

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Posted on Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:43:46
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still nothing for equals!!!:(


If the last heavy weight gym has 8,8,8,8, thats a great gym from balanced people.

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Posted on Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:01:53
So, I've been doing some experiments with the exp gains. I've collected 300 data points in Apollo Gym, being each point the increment in exp per 10E train. I've gathered the infos using j0zeph trick.

This is what I got



It seems that exist 8 discrete values, each one with a different probability. So, if you are lucky you go faster trough the gym.

I've averaged the exp gain and got a final estimate of 3126 trains but this number kept jumping around 3100 for every single data point I have added.

The exp gains are not related with the stat you train or if you are using drugs or not.

What do you guys think about this?



Last Edited: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:03:03
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Posted on Wed Apr 11, 2012 19:01:36
Well for what it's worth, this non-drug user unlocked Apollo this morning. Started it 10th March, so just a touch over a month. I would have probably been able to open it two or three days earlier had I not missed a few point refills and a couple of times I never got round to logging in to train during lunch.

Since it took me a little over 3 and a half weeks (25 days) to get through Deep Burn, I'm hoping Apollo won't take much longer than 5..

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Posted on Thu Apr 12, 2012 19:08:50
Wow good info but dose any one in this game have the final gyms ??

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Posted on Sat Apr 14, 2012 19:18:48
Anyone on Last Round yet?

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Belwilliam

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Posted on Wed Apr 18, 2012 18:38:57
I would have thought someone would have Last Round unlocked by now...anyone? Who is close?

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Posted on Wed Apr 18, 2012 21:35:16
Zaney told me he still needs 12 days more.

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Posted on Thu Apr 19, 2012 15:09:18
Since we were told that the optimal train was to keep all stats equal, then it makes zero sense to have special gyms for someone who whores???? Can someone from the staff tell us why we were told this bad information from the beginning then??

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Posted on Thu Apr 19, 2012 15:24:32
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Since we were told that the optimal train was to keep all stats equal, then it makes zero sense to have special gyms for someone who whores???? Can someone from the staff tell us why we were told this bad information from the beginning then??


Never mind this..... I misunderstood. Seems like if you have all stats at 25% then combine 2 of them is 50%... so having all stats about equal seems to be the way to go, if you want access to both these 2 special gyms that we know about.

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Posted on Thu Apr 19, 2012 18:10:47
Doesn't actually matter all that much. Presumably the last heavy gym will be 8 dots for everything. Having 55.555%+ spd/str or dex/def just gets you 7.6 dots a couple months early....it is a bit of a pain to need 25E per train too.

People have now been warned anyway, so any even stat players can aim for 55.555% for one pair of stats before they unlock Cha Cha's...If you had 25% for each stat, it will not take long to get to 55.555%.

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Posted on Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:03:34
I unlocked Cha cha's a few hours ago and Balboas Gym unlocked and I'm no wheres even close to balanced. Kinda sucks if you're not working on your whored stats.

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