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I am going to be donating over 1,000,000 items of worthless junk to the dump. There is only about 5 eco friendly merits sold daily if not less of people who are actually tossing the junk they purchase. That means I shall add over 200 players worth of junk that in turn I can never find those items myself in the dump again. So saying that it will cause over two hundred thousand energy to get rid of it all. More to come with the plans to inflate this torn city economy. Mwhahahahshshs

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 06:40:43
It wont do a damn thing.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 06:44:17
I do believe you can find items you yourself trash.

So no, you won't be doing anything really; people who search the dump do not find great items regularly if at all.
On a side note, how does putting items into the dump inflate the economy? You don't pay money to find anything in the dump.

Also what do you mean by only 5 of the merits sold daily? You do realize that there use to be no limit to how many items you could purchase in a day, infinite stocks and tons of people who ran auto refreshers to collect massive amounts of junk items.

So enjoy dumping 1mil items, don't expect to see anything happen though.


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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 06:46:45
On the contrary it will as I will not take it out of my personal stash of junk but out of torn city bazaars until some items are well into the 2000$ range as 1b is enough to buy out most bazaars holding most bulk junk items. As I've done this 12 times with profits over 2.8b and have heavily invested it now generating over 50m a week doing nothing st all. Ontop of that I will generously sell my overpriced parcels full of remaining junk I ever find listed and then everyone will mine the dumps picking up my garbage and selling it back to everyone at a premium. Your thoughts are wrong.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 06:48:19
By 5 ecofriendly merits sold daily is people buying 5000 items and trashing the item. People can buy tens of thousands of items daily doesn't mean they are throwing out the items.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:00:08
Items trashed: 5,000

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12*1,000,000= 5,000 right?


You are not creating any new money, you are potentially creating a small price vacuum that would drive certain item prices up for a brief time. If anything you are deflating the economy (people selling the items on the Item Market pay more for the 3% fee), so please do continue thinking you are some how going to ruin the game by inflating it.

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By 5 ecofriendly merits sold daily is people buying 5000 items and trashing the item. People can buy tens of thousands of items daily doesn't mean they are throwing out the items.


And you are able to track how many people earn that merit daily how?

There are plenty of people like me who could easily trash 5k items, right now; some even 100,000s. But haven't yet, its an easy merit that is not going anywhere. Might as well earn it when I need it.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:00:51
Making items in the dump similar to items you'd purchase when traveling to other countries as all items will be moved to the dump causing for 5 energy loss depending on how many searches could be equivalent to long period travels as some items will to as high as 100k eg glock 18 over 5000$ will show cheapest bazaar at 100k. Over a 2 month period this will cause noobs to buy the expensive junk and I'll make more money doing this then owning the bazaar markets. Expect these changes soon as I'm slowly buying your cheap 800$ junk over and over without drawing attention. The junk will rise above the car dealers the gun runners the collectors and the masses.

The dump will hold the key to great riches the dump will see me as its god the garbage pickers will soon see we own this world. Not you muscle heads and you business class travelers.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:05:38
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Making items in the dump similar to items you'd purchase when traveling to other countries as all items will be moved to the dump causing for 5 energy loss depending on how many searches could be equivalent to long period travels as some items will to as high as 100k eg glock 18 over 5000$ will show cheapest bazaar at 100k. Over a 2 month period this will cause noobs to buy the expensive junk and I'll make more money doing this then owning the bazaar markets. Expect these changes soon as I'm slowly buying your cheap 800$ junk over and over without drawing attention. The junk will rise above the car dealers the gun runners the collectors and the masses.

The dump will hold the key to great riches the dump will see me as its god the garbage pickers will soon see we own this world. Not you muscle heads and you business class travelers.


You are also assuming you are not going to be undercut by anyone, or that you will simply buy all that are less expensive than yours.

As I said before good luck

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:06:38
I have enough items to trash worry not. I'll let the hungry junk runners who copied my success frolic for what little junk they do not find as I find people selling 5000 items daily at 500$ each regardless one will watch. You say I don't do anything but view my sales I'm a ghost you see nothing I make deals in seconds you will never see I make people hate me then get friends to claim my bounties you cannot win you cannot best me for anything you try will fail. You see nothing you know nothing you watch you beg me to stop you wait until I say I told you so for it is coming. 1.5m items ready to be taken out of circulation for good imagine that imagine 16000 unopened parcels with 10 junk each it's insanity.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:09:33
This "discussion" is pretty funny, but after doing a little math myself, not only is there way too many items for 1 person to try to take control, the pure amount of cash needed to attempt this would be so high it's stupid.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:15:35
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I have enough items to trash worry not. I'll let the hungry junk runners who copied my success frolic for what little junk they do not find as I find people selling 5000 items daily at 500$ each regardless one will watch. You say I don't do anything but view my sales I'm a ghost you see nothing I make deals in seconds you will never see I make people hate me then get friends to claim my bounties you cannot win you cannot best me for anything you try will fail. You see nothing you know nothing you watch you beg me to stop you wait until I say I told you so for it is coming. 1.5m items ready to be taken out of circulation for good imagine that imagine 16000 unopened parcels with 10 junk each it's insanity.


As its junk why do I care?

Neat you got bounties, send some my way please.

I said you don't do anything? Where? I said your attempt will do nothing, your sales reflect nothing.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:18:35
Again you are wrong in one day. Singlehandedly bought up 750k items at 850max each cost less than 800m and all items were st 900+ beer at 2000$. Tell me I'm wrong but you don't do 600m in bazaar sales in a day over and over. You don't have constant capital to decapitate these markets that they cannot stay at these current prices.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:21:14
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Again you are wrong in one day. Singlehandedly bought up 750k items at 850max each cost less than 800m and all items were st 900+ beer at 2000$. Tell me I'm wrong but you don't do 600m in bazaar sales in a day over and over. You don't have constant capital to decapitate these markets that they cannot stay at these current prices.


All you're doing it buying low selling high. Which is completely different than what you were talking about in the first post. Any idiot knows how to buy low sell high.

The market will fluctuate, but in the end, you're not gonna cause the price to go up by yourself, atleast not for more than a couple hours after you buy up all the cheaper priced ones and then post yours as the new cheapest. Common strategy really, something that anyone can gain some extra money with if they have the cash and time to keep it up for hours.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:27:11
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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:28:33
There is only 16 junk items with under 100k in circulation. Other items such as beer,bears,jackets,bunches of flowers,bricks any other item with a circulation of over 10,000,000 is held by multi billion dollar net worth players who hold those for bragging purposes and will never influx them back into the item market. So furthering that point taking out 1m in items buys out all minor stockholders of any of these items under 100k and on those 16 items taking even 20% 20000 items each that's 320,000 will push those items extremely high which I intend to keep. Then the rest will be making sure all other large items with more item circulation stay worthless and let me find all the items in the junk of value while having everyone pick up the scraps. Your math is wrong and there's tops at 2000$ a item only 100b worth of junk in circulation a lot of it held by billionaire owning billions worth at a time.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 07:33:48
With 2b one could buy out every bazaar and be selling each item at 1000$ each. I plan to have it at that point yet I'm just going to throw it all out and cause this constant back and forth selling of junk back and forth to causing a global collapse to how some of these people's bazaars operate.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 09:28:44
More action, less bullsh*t, Jizzy.

Or we'll just assume you're trolling, like all the half-ass plans you've come up with previously.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:00:35
It's fine I'm growing my 33b at 6.5% a week so in a good month that will be generating close to 500m a day profit to where I can buy up the tc market everyday any price regardless of what it is and will eventually rule as a God like figure of torn to points where I'll have so much money I am bought out and if I get kicked off the site ever without breaking any rules legal action will be taken. So again you say im all talk yet you need to understand slow and steady wins the race. The less one sees and prepares for the easier it will be for me to have everything fully arranged in which I can swoop in less than 12 hours and change the entire tc bazaar items market increasing prices 10-20 times higher. With holding massive stocks of meds and drugs and slowly Watching the world collapse under me as I give gifts of the gods to the people once they appreciate my presence. My actions are hidden if you cannot see. Watch how j spend you will see its hundreds of millions a day. Watch my sales as they increase hundreds of millions a day. People bounty me trying to stop me from this. Players have bought my items at crazy high prices and sold them at cheaper just to keep the price as low as it was. There are no items left you think there are but go 10 bazaars deep on any item you buy out and prices will show and only unless I give it back will it ever change.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:06:11
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It's fine I'm growing my 33b at 6.5% a week so in a good month that will be generating close to 500m a day profit to where I can buy up the tc market everyday any price regardless of what it is and will eventually rule as a God like figure of torn to points where I'll have so much money I am bought out and if I get kicked off the site ever without breaking any rules legal action will be taken. So again you say im all talk yet you need to understand slow and steady wins the race. The less one sees and prepares for the easier it will be for me to have everything fully arranged in which I can swoop in less than 12 hours and change the entire tc bazaar items market increasing prices 10-20 times higher. With holding massive stocks of meds and drugs and slowly Watching the world collapse under me as I give gifts of the gods to the people once they appreciate my presence. My actions are hidden if you cannot see. Watch how j spend you will see its hundreds of millions a day. Watch my sales as they increase hundreds of millions a day. People bounty me trying to stop me from this. Players have bought my items at crazy high prices and sold them at cheaper just to keep the price as low as it was. There are no items left you think there are but go 10 bazaars deep on any item you buy out and prices will show and only unless I give it back will it ever change.


I'm always amazed why people with so much money live in such moderate surroundings. Which piece of your masterplan does the Ranch fit into?



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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:14:47
I'd live in a shack if I didn't get it loaned to me after being in a faction. Really I don't work out people can attack me if they'd like you will never make me go for 24 medical cool down even if you bounty me constantly I'd turn those into money for myself so appreciate them. And ya. I've rented out a private island i have the achievement for fully upgrading one but would rather spend my 500k towards my income then spending it for happiness I don't use and anything it could give me. To answer that question. Next?

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:27:51
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It's fine I'm growing my 33b at 6.5% a week so in a good month that will be generating close to 500m a day profit to where I can buy up the tc market everyday any price regardless of what it is and will eventually rule as a God like figure of torn to points where I'll have so much money I am bought out and if I get kicked off the site ever without breaking any rules legal action will be taken. So again you say im all talk yet you need to understand slow and steady wins the race. The less one sees and prepares for the easier it will be for me to have everything fully arranged in which I can swoop in less than 12 hours and change the entire tc bazaar items market increasing prices 10-20 times higher. With holding massive stocks of meds and drugs and slowly Watching the world collapse under me as I give gifts of the gods to the people once they appreciate my presence. My actions are hidden if you cannot see. Watch how j spend you will see its hundreds of millions a day. Watch my sales as they increase hundreds of millions a day. People bounty me trying to stop me from this. Players have bought my items at crazy high prices and sold them at cheaper just to keep the price as low as it was. There are no items left you think there are but go 10 bazaars deep on any item you buy out and prices will show and only unless I give it back will it ever change.


BLAH BLAH BLAH, we've heard it all before, like Ducky's plans to destroy JFK and HT, or his plans to control the points market, or his plans to buy Ched out and then make everyone suffer and 10 months later what is he doing? is he destroying factions? No, is he manuplating the points market? No, Has Ched sold the game to him? No what he is doing is sending mails to a Transsexual to tell her about a love song he recorded for Karty as if she gives a shit.

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So who are you going to be singing love songs to in 9 months time when none of this shit happens?




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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:27:54
I search the dump or pop vicodens and fight people until they bounty me 10 times. I've found 6 feathery hotel coupons and 10 cans of energy and 4 donator packs in the dump along with a few hundred items 100-250k.profiting over 500m so far and as I've only found dumbbells walking around the city I find the dump so far has treated me better than walking the city.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:32:25
I feel like you are overlooking something... The junk will restock very quickly.

Assuming you 'could' create a demand for a certain junk item; people would just buy this item from the city shops, while the price is inflated for it. Items in the shops replenish on average; twice per hour. So there are 48,000 more of each item in circulation per day (assuming they all get bought right away, right now that usually only happens with beer and bricks). This would happen with the others if a demand was created.

Those 750k items could easily be replaced within 8 days. Throwing them into the dump will have very little effect. Yu also would be helping others more than hurting them. Taking out the useless junk will make everyone more money if they choose to sell it.

You are also assuming people search the dump to actually find items of value. Even if you put 1 mil items in the dump, which you think you cannot find yourself, you would still be searching through the same amount of junk there is now in the dump. Which means your chances of finding good items wouldn't increase at all.

Well, I finished feeding the troll, Time to get back to bed.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:35:22
I wanted to see a real plan

Why did you get my hopes up?

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:35:25
The ED flows strong from this one...

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:35:40
24000 players a day at 100 items each is still only 2.4m items at 1000$ each is only 2.4b which if one was making 25% of that a day and considering everyone isn't selling their 100 their would be no replenishing as it would be bought at upwards of any price.

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:49:05
Are you the guy who tried to push point market to 80k?

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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:54:44
No. Stop. Think of the
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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:00:30
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It wont do a damn thing.




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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:33:06
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Posted on Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:25:23
I pretty much search the dump whenever I am on, and there isn't much in it anyway, Its Bricks, Flowers, Plushies, Tissues, Wrapping Paper, Empty Box, etc. Have rarely found a lead pipe and a couple of soap on a ropes, but only once have I ever found anything of any value, and that was a Model Space Ship.

Dump your crap away, soon I'll have enough bricks to build a palace, not buy one

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