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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 02:08:29
I do not know what staff receives 'player reports' but they should find more able staff!

2 reports and always 'no evidence' found.

For 3 weeks sicne I started watching this company has had every single employee have the exact last action every day. Obvious multies and script running. Oh wait, company owner pays $5 a month, we cant fed him, bad for business?



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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 03:52:17
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At one time, scripts were against the rules. People en masse ignored the rule and used GreaseMonkey for faction chaining. Since the rule was basically unenforceable, considering they would have to ban most of the top factions, who even went so far as to require that people use them, there's really nothing that can be done.

Look around and not liking what you see? Players have only themselves to blame on this issue.


What script was this? Having been in several HOF factions, I don't remember anyone ever suggesting using a greasemonkey script, let alone it being required


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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 04:17:02
I've had two friends who have had stocks listed and within seconds of selling and without anyone knowing that they were sell, they've been mugged.



thats not a script as such, apparently they are stealing an "active login session"


thats what happened to me, had all my items listed in my bazaar for $1.

what surprised me, was to find out that these days, under no instances to staff return hacked items. pretty big backwards step in my opinion.

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:57:01
By Richardv [1103695]
Play the game the way it was meant to be played. I play vannila and do not complain, this is not a game to mod and use scripts, its highly competive and there is a fine line thays hard to manage. I wish the staff would suck it up already and start banning all scripts, maybe Ched could use that puppet community board to get it through.


Its a pain to play without any scripts at all. If scripts are to be banned, make a decent UI first, then by all means ban scripts. what we have now is worse then dos command line.

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 13:01:49
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By Richardv [1103695]
Play the game the way it was meant to be played. I play vannila and do not complain, this is not a game to mod and use scripts, its highly competive and there is a fine line thays hard to manage. I wish the staff would suck it up already and start banning all scripts, maybe Ched could use that puppet community board to get it through.


Its a pain to play without any scripts at all. If scripts are to be banned, make a decent UI first, then by all means ban scripts. what we have now is worse then dos command line.


I fully agree, using items in bulk through greesemonkey for example also always saved you loooads of time.

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 13:18:42
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By Richardv [1103695]
Play the game the way it was meant to be played. I play vannila and do not complain, this is not a game to mod and use scripts, its highly competive and there is a fine line thays hard to manage. I wish the staff would suck it up already and start banning all scripts, maybe Ched could use that puppet community board to get it through.


Its a pain to play without any scripts at all. If scripts are to be banned, make a decent UI first, then by all means ban scripts. what we have now is worse then dos command line.


It's really not. I don't use any scripts, add-ons, utilities, or anything like that, to play torn. Everything I click, i click using the mouse.

If people cant play a text based crime game without having to resort to scripts to make it easier, there's very little hope for them.


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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 13:32:13
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Play the game the way it was meant to be played. I play vannila and do not complain, this is not a game to mod and use scripts, its highly competive and there is a fine line thays hard to manage. I wish the staff would suck it up already and start banning all scripts, maybe Ched could use that puppet community board to get it through.


Its a pain to play without any scripts at all. If scripts are to be banned, make a decent UI first, then by all means ban scripts. what we have now is worse then dos command line.


It's really not. I don't use any scripts, add-ons, utilities, or anything like that, to play torn. Everything I click, i click using the mouse.

If people cant play a text based crime game without having to resort to scripts to make it easier, there's very little hope for them.


I also click using the mouse. What else would i be using?! I dont think you understand what most userscripts actually do. They make the interface easier to use, without having to go through 15 pages in order to buy a brick. I dont use any automated action scripts if thats what youre implying.







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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 13:33:38
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By Richardv [1103695]
Play the game the way it was meant to be played. I play vannila and do not complain, this is not a game to mod and use scripts, its highly competive and there is a fine line thays hard to manage. I wish the staff would suck it up already and start banning all scripts, maybe Ched could use that puppet community board to get it through.


Its a pain to play without any scripts at all. If scripts are to be banned, make a decent UI first, then by all means ban scripts. what we have now is worse then dos command line.


It's really not. I don't use any scripts, add-ons, utilities, or anything like that, to play torn. Everything I click, i click using the mouse.

If people cant play a text based crime game without having to resort to scripts to make it easier, there's very little hope for them.


There's a difference right there.

You would rather click one button 500 times.... whereas I would not.

One of the main reasons I make scripts.

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 13:42:40
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There's a difference right there.

You would rather click one button 500 times.... whereas I would not.

One of the main reasons I make scripts.


I'd rather just play the game as it was intended, regardless of the number of clicks involved.

Of course, this is entirely different to the session spoofing that it appears may be taking place.

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 13:47:23
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There's a difference right there.

You would rather click one button 500 times.... whereas I would not.

One of the main reasons I make scripts.


I'd rather just play the game as it was intended, regardless of the number of clicks involved.

Of course, this is entirely different to the session spoofing that it appears may be taking place.


then be consistent and walk around naked, like nature intended.

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 13:52:42
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There's a difference right there.

You would rather click one button 500 times.... whereas I would not.

One of the main reasons I make scripts.


I'd rather just play the game as it was intended, regardless of the number of clicks involved.

Of course, this is entirely different to the session spoofing that it appears may be taking place.


then be consistent and walk around naked, like nature intended.


Who says i'm not?

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 14:32:06
Ched should set up bogus accounts and test who is using scripts and ban them from the game. How hard would that be? Make it happen and clean up the trash in town!

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 15:56:14
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Play the game the way it was meant to be played. I play vannila and do not complain, this is not a game to mod and use scripts, its highly competive and there is a fine line thays hard to manage. I wish the staff would suck it up already and start banning all scripts, maybe Ched could use that puppet community board to get it through.


Its a pain to play without any scripts at all. If scripts are to be banned, make a decent UI first, then by all means ban scripts. what we have now is worse then dos command line.


It's really not. I don't use any scripts, add-ons, utilities, or anything like that, to play torn. Everything I click, i click using the mouse.

If people cant play a text based crime game without having to resort to scripts to make it easier, there's very little hope for them.


I also click using the mouse. What else would i be using?! I dont think you understand what most userscripts actually do. They make the interface easier to use, without having to go through 15 pages in order to buy a brick. I dont use any automated action scripts if thats what youre implying.


who needs to imply anything when you're just admitting it?

when you click on something and the result of that click is the equivalent of manually going through 15 pages...guess what, it's an automated action script...

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 16:34:02
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Play the game the way it was meant to be played. I play vannila and do not complain, this is not a game to mod and use scripts, its highly competive and there is a fine line thays hard to manage. I wish the staff would suck it up already and start banning all scripts, maybe Ched could use that puppet community board to get it through.


Its a pain to play without any scripts at all. If scripts are to be banned, make a decent UI first, then by all means ban scripts. what we have now is worse then dos command line.


It's really not. I don't use any scripts, add-ons, utilities, or anything like that, to play torn. Everything I click, i click using the mouse.

If people cant play a text based crime game without having to resort to scripts to make it easier, there's very little hope for them.


I also click using the mouse. What else would i be using?! I dont think you understand what most userscripts actually do. They make the interface easier to use, without having to go through 15 pages in order to buy a brick. I dont use any automated action scripts if thats what youre implying.


who needs to imply anything when you're just admitting it?

when you click on something and the result of that click is the equivalent of manually going through 15 pages...guess what, it's an automated action script...


No, it's not.

Let's take an example.

Not Running Scripts:
1) Home Page
2) Login
3) City
4) Bits n Bobs
5) Buy (Bricks)
6) Enter 100 or move slider.
7) Click Buy
8) Confirm.

8 steps to login, and buy 100 bricks.

Not running scripts, but using bookmarks.
1) Home Page
2) Login
3) Click bookmark to: Buy (Bricks)
4) Enter 100 or move slider.
5) Click Buy
6) Confirm.

6 steps to get 100 bricks. The bookmark went straight to the buying page, avoiding City and Bits n Bobs.

Running a script to put a link on the homepage.
1) Home page
2) Login
3) Home Page
4) Click "New Button" on home page to buy 100 bricks.

4 steps.


Notice how it takes less steps to do the same result?
Exactly the same result.


I put the bookmarks version in too because... well... it shows that "other methods" are productive tools too.


If anything, THANK us.
Us script users (For convenience usage) don't load as many pages as non-script users.
Therefore, we cause less lag on the server.
Making everyone's experience nicer.

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 22:53:55
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Ched should set up bogus accounts and test who is using scripts and ban them from the game. How hard would that be? Make it happen and clean up the trash in town!


bogus accounts? How would that help? Like sting operation?

I tried to get mugged today, but was unlucky catching any scripters:




08/12/12
6:56:02 PM 500,000 shares in SYM have been sold for $364,807,650.
08/12/12
5:14:41 PM Your faction can now Claim Victory over crows zero. You can do this by going to your faction war base.
08/12/12
4:56:52 PM You pop the Xanax pill in to your mouth and down a glass of water.
08/12/12
4:12:26 PM 1,331,393 shares in FHC have been sold for $476,139,022.
08/12/12
4:06:57 PM 2,316 shares in FHC have been sold for $828,258.
08/12/12
3:32:40 PM 666,291 shares in FHC have been sold for $238,488,669.


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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 22:59:10
I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.

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Posted on Sat Dec 08, 2012 23:17:05
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I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


stfu, kthnxbai.
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Posted on Sun Dec 09, 2012 01:33:27
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I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


It's difficult to prove anyone is using a script tho, let alone one that just changed the layout [not that it provides any advantage] ..


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Posted on Sun Dec 09, 2012 02:21:08
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Ched should set up bogus accounts and test who is using scripts and ban them from the game. How hard would that be? Make it happen and clean up the trash in town!


bogus accounts? How would that help? Like sting operation?

I tried to get mugged today, but was unlucky catching any scripters:




08/12/12
6:56:02 PM 500,000 shares in SYM have been sold for $364,807,650.
08/12/12
5:14:41 PM Your faction can now Claim Victory over crows zero. You can do this by going to your faction war base.
08/12/12
4:56:52 PM You pop the Xanax pill in to your mouth and down a glass of water.
08/12/12
4:12:26 PM 1,331,393 shares in FHC have been sold for $476,139,022.
08/12/12
4:06:57 PM 2,316 shares in FHC have been sold for $828,258.
08/12/12
3:32:40 PM 666,291 shares in FHC have been sold for $238,488,669.


Thats small potatos, they would not likely to even care unless it was a trillion. Investigation could be easily done with bogus accounts. Make them sell at random times will trillion a pop and once they hit mug, instant fed them. Let em have there day defending there actions.


Few days/weeks the cheats would be all gone.

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Posted on Sun Dec 16, 2012 13:45:31
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I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


QFT.

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Posted on Sun Dec 16, 2012 14:02:19
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I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


QFT.


QFT? Are you serious?

How would one go about enforcing this? I wouldn't expect either of you to understand that...

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Posted on Sun Dec 16, 2012 15:11:10
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I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


QFT.


QFT? Are you serious?

How would one go about enforcing this? I wouldn't expect either of you to understand that...


The statement or how one should enforce it are two totally different things.
But I wouldnt expect for you to understand that I guess...

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Posted on Sun Dec 16, 2012 17:02:37
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I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


QFT.


QFT? Are you serious?

How would one go about enforcing this? I wouldn't expect either of you to understand that...


The statement or how one should enforce it are two totally different things.
But I wouldnt expect for you to understand that I guess...


Please do go about explaining how it could work. Or are your statements just as empty as your head?


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Posted on Sun Dec 16, 2012 17:16:26
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By joeykickdoors [1362446]
By Voices [387969]
I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


QFT.


QFT? Are you serious?

How would one go about enforcing this? I wouldn't expect either of you to understand that...


bend the rules much?


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Posted on Sun Dec 16, 2012 17:18:47
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By joeykickdoors [1362446]
By Voices [387969]
I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


QFT.


QFT? Are you serious?

How would one go about enforcing this? I wouldn't expect either of you to understand that...


The same way one would go about "enforcing" scripts that are currently "illegal"?

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Posted on Sun Dec 16, 2012 22:41:30
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Please do go about explaining how it could work. Or are your statements just as empty as your head?


Torn has quite a unique customer service experience. Do you think it's one of the major selling points?

On topic: Boo for illegal scripts.



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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 02:53:27
By Swag [929733]
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By Swag [929733]
By joeykickdoors [1362446]
By Voices [387969]
I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


QFT.


QFT? Are you serious?

How would one go about enforcing this? I wouldn't expect either of you to understand that...


The same way one would go about "enforcing" scripts that are currently "illegal"?


GOD!!!!! Finally, thank you!!!!

The bottom line is staff knows people are cheating like the little rabbits they are, But don't wanna do nothing about it. I am confused here, WTH is going on???


How bout a new rule??? This wouldn't even be a RULE(should be protical)!!!!!!!!!!(CLUELESS STAFF) If someone reports that they have been ROBBED, AKA MUGGED and had a stock that sold while off line WITH IN A MINUTE OF IT BEING SOLD! Or someone reported they got mugged within 3 minutes after an investment got released or any fishy azz chit like that, THEN, they track that persons last 5 days.

What the hell do you think they would find????????????? This makes me angry

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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 02:57:05
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I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This!

Read this: www.ennitti.com/statement/

[23:44:49] passderenaa: HT-0, you should be staff
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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 03:00:32
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I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This!


Plus another!

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Posted on Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:34:34
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By Swag [929733]
By bogie [148747]
By Swag [929733]
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By Voices [387969]
I just wish all scripts/add-on's/greasemonkey shit.. Would just be made illegal.

Have people play the game themselves how it was made to be played.


This. If no scripts are allowed at all, bye bye grey area.


QFT.


QFT? Are you serious?

How would one go about enforcing this? I wouldn't expect either of you to understand that...


The same way one would go about "enforcing" scripts that are currently "illegal"?


GOD!!!!! Finally, thank you!!!!

The bottom line is staff knows people are cheating like the little rabbits they are, But don't wanna do nothing about it. I am confused here, WTH is going on???


How bout a new rule??? This wouldn't even be a RULE(should be protical)!!!!!!!!!!(CLUELESS STAFF) If someone reports that they have been ROBBED, AKA MUGGED and had a stock that sold while off line WITH IN A MINUTE OF IT BEING SOLD! Or someone reported they got mugged within 3 minutes after an investment got released or any fishy azz chit like that, THEN, they track that persons last 5 days.

What the hell do you think they would find????????????? This makes me angry


Don't take my statement the wrong way. I don't know of or have proof of anyone cheating and it not being handled. Even if I did, I couldn't do any more about it than you could, I'd have to report it and go about my business. Like Bogie implied, I'm just as remedial as everyone else

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