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Thread created on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:27:19
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Nice to know that people are still getting away with using them. Staff supposedly put a complete stop to it but that's not the case. I've had two friends who have had stocks listed and within seconds of selling and without anyone knowing that they were sell, they've been mugged. Now the guy who I've been mugging all day suddenly starts getting mugged by someone who has used illegal scripts time and time again.

And what does all the above have in common? You guessed it, Young Blaze is the one doing it all.

Staff, do you job and finally fed that cheat once and for all.


As for the mug target here he is, can't be bothered to make it clicky. Go wild on him.


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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:29:36
Scripts created a third tier of player within the game. Once that gate opened up fully, there's no going back.

Illegal or legal scripts, seems pretty hard for them to be able to tell one from the other. Scripts totally changed the game.

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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:30:52
And what does all the above have in common? You guessed it, Young Blaze is the one doing it all.

Proof?

Now the guy who I've been mugging all day suddenly starts getting mugged by someone who has used illegal scripts time and time again

Proof?

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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:32:04
Y'know YB is untouchable, right?

GY in 3, 2, 1...

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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:35:35
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And what does all the above have in common? You guessed it, Young Blaze is the one doing it all.

Proof?

Now the guy who I've been mugging all day suddenly starts getting mugged by someone who has used illegal scripts time and time again

Proof?


Do I have access to the tools the devs do? No

So if you want proof, ask them, but you know how the game is ran and exactly what would be released on forums. So please STFU in future before posting asking for things you know only they can do.

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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:37:50
And the above is in reference to exactly what he is doing.

only devs/admins will be able to see what he's doing click by click. What irregular activity that will show up on his profile and if he's been running mass refreshes on logs.



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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:38:17
YB started using the script again a few weeks, maybe a month after being caught. They will catch him again, he will admit it and give up his new script, then he will do it again a month down the road

edit- The people released last time supposedly gave admins the script they were using and were released. Funny because one of the guys fedded supposedly left over 60 billion in their factions bank, something Stacey was bragging about being allowed to keep a few weeks after the fedding

Last Edited: Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:40:39
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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:44:12
Wow,

Largest mug: $1,020,036,976
Money mugged: $122,078,466,819

Thats crazy

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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:49:22
Suspicion isn't evidence at the end of the day though :/

Not saying I haven't had suspicions about some sort of shenanigans in the past, even when I've kept my finances very secretive.

06/11/12
9:41:03 AM Someone mugged you but could not find any cash. [View]
06/11/12
9:40:45 AM 40,000,000 shares in TCC have been sold for $8,827,764,000.

But I cannot think at all how scripts would be involved in such things as these... :/


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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:49:37
I heard about some guy called pyromaniac1 [1655769] using a script or something, whats the deal with him?
Look at his level up medals, he's only a level 1!

Last Edited: Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:52:25
Bazaar income: $202,097,651



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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:53:20
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I heard about some guy called pyromaniac1 [1655769] using a script or something, whats the deal with him?
Look at his level up medals, he's only a level 1!


That's something else entirely. Irrelevant to this...


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Posted on Wed Dec 05, 2012 23:56:30
My bad, sorry

On topic, I hope all the baddies get caught -.-

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:20:37
Or... The moment I buy something from someone, they're mugged. Which the moment I buy, I mugged and it already says they are in the hospital. I've beaten him a handful of times to the mug, but then he gets pissed and bounties me.

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:26:01
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Wow,

Largest mug: $1,020,036,976
Money mugged: $122,078,466,819

Thats crazy


No whats crazy is he was caught then was bragging about being (keep in mind he is a low life so could have been lying) able to keep the money after being caught

He learned his lesson, im sure he is now running the script on one of his many multies accounts to avoid detection

edit- Since it was mentioned, if anyone is curious

Name: pyromaniac1 [Name: pyromaniac1 [1655769]
Level: 86

The spy managed to get the following results
Speed: 2,124,505,297
Strength: N/A
Defense: 1,314,368,511
Dexterity: 2,760,340,840
Total: 7,432,767,049


Last Edited: Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:27:43
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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:30:56
Evidence is hard to find - but it can be found.

I sold some money spies to YB - and he was pretty accurate - more than anyone else I sold too .. but then again he did need the spies ...

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:32:37
If you check youre last attack log, chacge the numer somewhaqt you get someone elses random attack log. wouldnt be suprising someone figured out how to read them, or quick scan them or something...

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:36:38
perhaps some muggers go thro the attack logs to find the good mug targets

easy enough to do.. just add 1 to the number on attack log and you can see other attack logs

do that manually and its allowed or so i have been told. is it?




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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:39:09
That would be a very easy way of doing it .. and extreamly easy to auto as well ..

However, it doesnt explain how people find mug targets who have just sold something (like Bogie's example)

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:43:34
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Evidence is hard to find - but it can be found.

I sold some money spies to YB - and he was pretty accurate - more than anyone else I sold too .. but then again he did need the spies ...


Runs the script on his multi, gets money spy on his main

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:46:24
Attack logs should be private or at least inconsequentially numbered so people can't see the most recent mugs ffs... This has been know for quite some time now, yet it still hasn't been fixed/changed.


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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:49:33
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Attack logs should be private or at least inconsequentially numbered so people can't see the most recent mugs ffs... This has been know for quite some time now, yet it still hasn't been fixed/changed.


It could be done other ways too, scanning the hospital for repeat mug victims is how they were doing it before I think

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:51:04
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Attack logs should be private or at least inconsequentially numbered so people can't see the most recent mugs ffs... This has been know for quite some time now, yet it still hasn't been fixed/changed.


It can't be inconsequentially numbered - in order to 'auto save' you have to ensure they all have a unique name, the best way is just to add 1 to the name.
Of course, you could do something like add 2, and then at a point run on all the odds instead - but this wouldn't be any more secure.

Why not just remove the amount mugged from the log ? .. I mean - on the main page it use to show how much people were being mugged for. Seems that was removed because of the advantage it gave players, yet the number still remains in the logs ...

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 00:58:03
The question is how do you determine an illegal script to one that's legal..

Torn allows scrips, Torn don't allow "player enhancing scripts"

There's blackmarket scripts about Torn like the people with stupidly insane time played, Torn still has many bugs/flaws like the guy who as was mentioned has hacked Torn and given himself a shit tonne of stats/levels while not leveling up legend..

It's not hard to count to 10, that's one of many methods i use when in "mugging mode" to find my targets, not going to go into detail and go off topic but i start with a fresh attack log and work my way up, manually typing each number, (f**king up many times! -.-) and view logs until i find good targets it's VERY boring and time consuming but can pay off BIG there's many others who do the same, i bought an island the other day off some noob while they was AFK and mugged to give myself a discount there was 4/5 others straight away who jumped in on it, it's a mugging game (not Torn, mugging in general) it's fun, you can't cover up your tracks when you mug someone your name might not be shown but the person and the amount is.. and if someone happens to come across that attack log and sees it they're going to jump on it, who wouldn't?

Point is NOT everyone who jumps on a target is using a damn script, as long as the attack logs are so easily accessible there's always going to be people lurking them, i'd love a new company special to stealth your log BOGIE!

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 01:36:02
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Attack logs should be private or at least inconsequentially numbered so people can't see the most recent mugs ffs... This has been know for quite some time now, yet it still hasn't been fixed/changed.


It can't be inconsequentially numbered - in order to 'auto save' you have to ensure they all have a unique name, the best way is just to add 1 to the name.
Of course, you could do something like add 2, and then at a point run on all the odds instead - but this wouldn't be any more secure.

Why not just remove the amount mugged from the log ? .. I mean - on the main page it use to show how much people were being mugged for. Seems that was removed because of the advantage it gave players, yet the number still remains in the logs ...


I'm not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to coding. Though it seems highly unlikely that there would be such constraints in the current system, to the point where you couldn't assign each attack log a unique number that doesn't have to fall in order 1,2,3,4,5... etc.

Hell, if it's not possible to do that then just let the attack/defender set options on whether or not they want attacks involving them to be public like they are right now.

Maybe I should go post this on Facebook so they'll finally change this shit. jk it's all going to be fixed in "Torn 2.0"


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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 01:37:48
Someone stealing your mugging targets can be easily done by watching the entries to the hospital over the course of 2hrs.
..admitedly it could also be done by scripts but thats circumstantial at best.

As far as stock market tracking goes..


No but seriously.. Say No to legalised scamming, Its just logical.
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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 01:41:42
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Someone stealing your mugging targets can be easily done by watching the entries to the hospital over the course of 2hrs.
..admitedly it could also be done by scripts but thats circumstantial at best.

As far as stock market tracking goes..


50+ mugs in 10 minutes... Then I leave'em for the vulchers... (That is on a slow/laggy day)
Unless you're constantly refreshing the hospital, you won't see it while watching patients. (that is if you are lucky)

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 01:51:43
Urm .. just curious cause I'm totally confused where these scripts could be a simple matter of paying someone to spy for ya?

Cause spy gets good money doing their job for someone else ... just a thought ...

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 01:51:50
YB cheating AGAIN!
and not Fedded
why is this ongoing?


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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 01:54:10
Just remember that somebody has to be best at mugging... And if the best one allways cheat that will infact mean that everyone cheats including you!

Eg...

1. xxxxx Cheater (oki delet him/her)
2. xxxxx cheater (oki deletn him/her aswell)

All the way till there is nobody left...

Just remember that without proove nobody is to called a cheater...

Yet again somebody has to be the best at mugging!

Btw on the script thing: all scriptes should have been banned from day one and ppl using script isn't fair cause it would be made if it didn't make something easier aka an advantage...

Read this: www.ennitti.com/statement/

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 01:54:53
Information
Name: Unequipped [1021493]
Level: 68

You managed to get the following results
Speed: N/A
Strength: N/A
Defense: X,XXX,XXX
Dexterity: XXX,XXX,000
Total: XXX,XXX,XXX

Manual labour: N/A
Intelligence: 39,465
Endurance: N/A
Total: N/A

Money: $128,042

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Posted on Thu Dec 06, 2012 01:55:48
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Someone stealing your mugging targets can be easily done by watching the entries to the hospital over the course of 2hrs.
..admitedly it could also be done by scripts but thats circumstantial at best.

As far as stock market tracking goes..


lmao, if you think it's that easy then why have you mugged less than 2mil? Remember self-busting? Scripts, scripts everywhere... People will use them if it's going to give them an edge over their competitors.

I don't have a clue about the stock market muggings. That should be thoroughly investigated by the devs...


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