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Posted on Sun May 27, 2012 19:33:30
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What is all this h/c and totalruns nonsense? I want to bet on the blue jays to lose dammit. Why can't we have that option?


just read above i had a bet up for them not sure what 1 but the best bpp was up ... to put it point blank i look for the payout where the money comes from the losing bets and not the system paying out. Thats what a bookie does he makes money not try to lose

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Posted on Mon Jun 04, 2012 20:46:25
Can we get the Mariners game added?


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Posted on Tue Jun 05, 2012 01:33:54
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Can we get the Mariners game added?


i post all games in the morning when i get up, if not listed prob wouldnt be or wont be a outright bet but an over/under, ill be cutting back on those as theres not many bets so wont be listing as many of those games

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Posted on Tue Jun 05, 2012 16:52:02
The BPP on that game was 104, which from the guidelines should have been a play. Over/Unders are good as long as there is a H/C or an Outright bet on the same games.

I am sure there are games with BPP on at least 2/3 bet types that qualify. Why not add those? For example, today the Rangers/A's game has 2 plays over 104.

Rangers/A's = 103.32
Rangers/A's H/C = 104.64
Rangers/A's O/U = 105.04

The Run Line and O/U are plays by the guidelines set forth, but you will only play the O/U. Why?


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Posted on Tue Jun 05, 2012 17:13:21
Surprised you used the H/C on that game. Cool. Thanks.


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Posted on Wed Jun 06, 2012 17:21:16
Giants/Padres bpp 104.5
Mets/Nationals bpp 103.9 Barely a no play, H/C = 103.9 Barely a no play, O/U = 104.3
Rays/Yankees bpp 104.3
Indians/Tigers bpp 103.9 Barely a no play, H/C = 104.4
Dodgers/Phillies bpp 104.6
Orioles/Red Sox bpp 104.1
Braves/Marlins bpp 103.9 Barely a no play, H/C = 104.1
Pirates/Reds bpp 104
Cardinals/Astros bpp 104.4
Cubs/Brewers bpp 104.5
Twins/Royals bpp 103.9 Barely a no play, H/C = 104.6
Blue Jays/White Sox bpp 104.3
Rockies/Dbacks bpp 104.6
Mariners/Angels bpp 104.5
Rangers/A's bpp 104.4

11/15 could be added as outright bets. 3 of the remaining 4 can be added as H/C bets and the last remaining one can be added as an O/U bet.

WTF???


15 games yesterday only 8 added to the bookie. 4 outright, 3 O/U and 1 H/C.

15 games today only 6 added to the bookie. 2 outright and 4 O/U.


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Posted on Thu Jun 07, 2012 06:50:22
Lets see how many games get left out tomorrow... Answer 4


12 games tomorrow, Only 8 added, 3 Outright, 2 H/C and 3 O/U.

Indians/Tigers = 104.6 Added
Mets/Nationals = 104.1 Added
Dodgers/Phillies = 104.1 ***Not Added***
Cubs/Brewers = 104.6 Added
Rangers/A's = 104.1 H/C 104.6 Added
Giants/Padres = 104.4 ***Not Added***
Rays/Yankees = 104.3 O/U 104.6 Added
Orioles/Red Sox = 104.3 ***Not Added***
Pirates/Reds = 104.1 O/U 104.8 Added
Braves/Marlins = 104.6 O/U 104.7 Added
Cardinals/Astros = 103.9 Barely a no play, H/C = 104.6 Added
Blue Jays/White Sox = 104.3 ***Not Added***

3 of the 4 games not added are games I wanna bet outright on.
2 of the 3 O/U games I wanna outright bet.
2 of the 12 games are all I am left to bet on through TC bookie.

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Posted on Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:17:47
I don't understand why the bookie is run like this?



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Posted on Thu Jun 07, 2012 17:27:57
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I don't understand why the bookie is run like this?



From the bookie thread posted by clansy read bottom line where the * is then go back a page read where i posted what i look for in a bet 1 im the bookie ill list them if they have the payout i look for where your winings come from the losing bets not 100s of bils being added to the game from the system

Post here for everything Bookies related

- Show off your BIG bets
- Big Wins
- Big Losses
- Game/Race/Match/Event requests*
- Tips / Rumors

I'll also post new games added to try and keep you up-to-date.

* You can also join the #tornbookies channel on IRC, there's no guarantees, but we'll see what we can do



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Posted on Thu Jun 07, 2012 18:11:01
What? Post a link or something. You want me to go back a page when that is the 1st post in the thread. I just read your forum posts going back to 2010. Not sure what I was supposed to see.

All I know is most of the games can be added as outright bets or handicaps. You add a lot of Over/Under bets which are fine, as long as the outright/handicapped bets are still added. I don't understand why games that fall under the guidelines gets added as O/U's or not added at all. People wanna bet who is gonna win, it's not that difficult.


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Posted on Thu Jun 07, 2012 18:22:16
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Lets see how many games get left out tomorrow... Answer 4


12 games tomorrow, Only 8 added, 3 Outright, 2 H/C and 3 O/U.

Indians/Tigers = 104.6 Added
Mets/Nationals = 104.1 Added
Dodgers/Phillies = 104.1 ***Not Added***
Cubs/Brewers = 104.6 Added
Rangers/A's = 104.1 H/C 104.6 Added
Giants/Padres = 104.4 ***Not Added***
Rays/Yankees = 104.3 O/U 104.6 Added
Orioles/Red Sox = 104.3 ***Not Added***
Pirates/Reds = 104.1 O/U 104.8 Added
Braves/Marlins = 104.6 O/U 104.7 Added
Cardinals/Astros = 103.9 Barely a no play, H/C = 104.6 Added
Blue Jays/White Sox = 104.3 ***Not Added***

3 of the 4 games not added are games I wanna bet outright on.
2 of the 3 O/U games I wanna outright bet.
2 of the 12 games are all I am left to bet on through TC bookie.


i noticed you didnt post the payouts on the games or the fact that the team listed was a 2 or 3 $ payout on ten and that won the night be4 0-9 as stated be4 you dont like what i list dont bet

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Posted on Thu Jun 07, 2012 23:15:15
What are you talking about? I don't understand what you are trying to say. Can you at least put some thought into a response? Type it out in a paragraph instead of a long undecipherable run on sentence?

Why do I need to put the payouts when they have nothing to do with adding it as a play. That is why you have that stupid overround calculator bullshit. You guys gave me the guidelines so I could figure out what you will add to the bookie before I spend the time researching. By the guidelines those are all plays.


As I said before I don't play the crap you add if I don't like it. The fact that you rarely add anything I like is frustrating as hell, especially when I research it and it's a play by your guy's guidelines.

I swear you are just f**king with me. Are you trying to get me fedded or something? Do the job you signed up for, that is all I am asking. Why is it so hard to communicate that to you? I can bet soccer all god damn day long but when it comes to American sports it's like slamming the car door on your fingers.


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Posted on Sat Jun 09, 2012 08:36:22
Randognsac, FreeBird4EvEr is listing the games as i have asked him to do so, just because the bpp is over 104 dosent mean we can or will add it when 1 team is 1/4 and the other is 3/1, we do not put one sided bets into the bookie, so if thats what you are after go bet your real money on them in a real bookies, we are not in the business of breaking the economy by adding bets that are a guaranteed win, we want people to gamble and have fun doing so, if your not having fun then just dont bet.

I dont want to see you ragging out FreeBird4EvEr any more in this thread, hes just doing his job and he does it very well. If you have a problem, mail me and i will gladly explain my reasoning to you.

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Posted on Sat Jun 09, 2012 19:46:29
Bookie, do you not realize that no one in the real world bets total runs, handicaps, or the over/under on regular season baseball games? That being said, there are also too many variables to consider when betting the line, which makes the Vegas moneyline the most popular and successful method of betting professional baseball. Furthermore, you are obviously not from the U.S., or you would understand this notion by now. I believe that I speak for 99% of baseball betters with this statement. Moneyline from now on.

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Posted on Sun Jun 10, 2012 13:09:35
No i am not from the US but i understand the principles of betting very well as i used to manage a betting shop. Our bookie isnt coded to allow for us to add money line bets, and that wont be changing, This is not a real bookies or real money, this is a game and we have a simplified version of a bookie shop for players to have a little bet and have fun, as i said before, if your not having fun using the bookie as it is, then please just dont use it.

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Posted on Sun Jun 10, 2012 13:20:54
That said..

i understand that you guys want to be able to bet on every game and esp your favourite teams, but it just isnt possible for us to add all games and adding the over/under is just a way to allow for some bets to be added to those games. because we take the odds from paddy (being one of the most reliable betting sites) alot of the time even the spread is one sided, or even worse it turns the underdog into the favourite odds wise, which we do not like to do either.

I will ask freebird to try and add as many spreads as possible from now on if the straight bet cant go in, and probably have him stop adding the over/unders all together, but you guys must understand that sometimes that just isnt possible on all games.

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Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 07:06:00
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Randognsac, FreeBird4EvEr is listing the games as i have asked him to do so, just because the bpp is over 104 dosent mean we can or will add it when 1 team is 1/4 and the other is 3/1, we do not put one sided bets into the bookie, so if thats what you are after go bet your real money on them in a real bookies, we are not in the business of breaking the economy by adding bets that are a guaranteed win, we want people to gamble and have fun doing so, if your not having fun then just dont bet.

I dont want to see you ragging out FreeBird4EvEr any more in this thread, hes just doing his job and he does it very well. If you have a problem, mail me and i will gladly explain my reasoning to you.



You guys say you don't add bets that are one sided but I see it in soccer. I don't want to bet one sided games. It bothers me when the games I wanna bet, that are not one sided, and follows the guidelines, does not get added. I voiced my opinions on this thread because it pissed freebird off when I mailed him. I will go through you from now on. You seem to understand the English language a lot better. I think he does a good job, I got hosed a few times and it bothered me.


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Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 07:16:30
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No i am not from the US but i understand the principles of betting very well as i used to manage a betting shop. Our bookie isnt coded to allow for us to add money line bets, and that wont be changing, This is not a real bookies or real money, this is a game and we have a simplified version of a bookie shop for players to have a little bet and have fun, as i said before, if your not having fun using the bookie as it is, then please just don't use it.


Money Line bets = outright/straight up bets. Run Line (Baseball) = handicap(+/- 1.5. Not sure what you think Money Line means but in the U.S. it is what outright/straight up bets are called in all sports.


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Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 15:19:03
What Randognsac said regarding moneyline bets. The "multipliers" are equivalent to moneyline bets.

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Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 22:34:29
Thanks for adding more "straight up" lines. It is appreciated.

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Posted on Fri Jun 15, 2012 00:14:14
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Thanks for adding more "straight up" lines. It is appreciated.


Thank Hydro for that.




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Posted on Fri Jun 15, 2012 15:04:45
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Thanks for adding more "straight up" lines. It is appreciated.


Thank Hydro for that.



Shut it...

Imlost has done just what Hydro asked - nothing more or less so if you have any further problems with baseball games you feel free to take that up with Hydro in mails but stop whinging in the forums at someone who has no control over the bets going in.

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Posted on Fri Jun 15, 2012 20:33:22
I took it up with Hydro and he fixed it. I was just letting Deft know who deserved the thanks. Not sure why giving credit where it's due is a bad thing. I wasn't being a dick about it.


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Posted on Sun Jun 17, 2012 19:09:18
Clansy is very protective of her staffies.. and i'd guess it was because it looked like an veiled swipe at Freebird which we have already stated is not on.

anywho.. Freebird is taking a break from adding baseball for abit due to RL issues, so myself and Clansy will be adding them from now on..

on that note.. tonights games are in, i know i missed a few of the early ones, sorry about that, i closed the games that start in an hour or 2 30 mins later than usual to give you guys a chance to bet, the late game closes an hour before as per usual.

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Posted on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:18:27
Heads up to whoever is doing baseball bets today, Milwaukee V Cincinnati game is double posted.

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Posted on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:47:03
yep i saw i made them twice but they can stay , same odds and that so no harm

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Posted on Sat Jun 30, 2012 07:58:29
kk

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Posted on Fri Jul 06, 2012 23:20:38
Chicago Cubs vs New York Mets

prolly too late for today and its not posted but next couple days, if possible please

July 6th 7th 8th

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Posted on Sat Jul 07, 2012 07:37:09
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Posted on Sun Jul 08, 2012 00:27:35
Thank you!


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