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Posted on Sun Feb 03, 2013 17:08:05
what I mean is Daisy

reward for work 100

reward for scam 50

dont be an idiot and lose money?

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Posted on Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:19:11
how are we doing?

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Posted on Mon Feb 04, 2013 16:48:21
so round 2 is still going or not?

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2013 01:45:49
Yes sorry Round 2 is up! i'll Edit this post w/ results



EDIT:


Times up for Round 2 and the Results are in!

Gheed Profile for ID: 661744
Decision: Scam
Snitch: No
Round Income: 47.5
Final Income: 95

Freyja Profile for ID: 1331448
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 200

Gotta_Get_Ya Profile for ID: 1698507
Decision: Work
Snitch: Yes
Round Income: 102.5
Final Income: 202.5

CazzaC Profile for ID: 1684840
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 200

Daisy3 Profile for ID: 730750
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 200

Lord_Gorgen Profile for ID: 1629756
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 152.5

b0ti Profile for ID: 1563474
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 200

S2K Profile for ID: 179029
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 200


Last Edited: Tue Feb 05, 2013 02:00:30
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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2013 02:32:50
By CazzaC [1684840]
why would you scam for so little money when all your doing is losing some and giving the host money...


By Daisy3 [730750]
Work requires that at least 85% of the participants (rounded down) in the game work in order to be successful. Successful work nets players who chose to do so 10% of the Buy In for that round. Failed work attempts receive nothing!

If you can get others to scam, making work fail results in no money for those silly honest people, putting the scammers ahead!


By CazzaC [1684840]
what I mean is Daisy

reward for work 100

reward for scam 50

dont be an idiot and lose money?


@CazzaC (And all players really)

Firstly, I'll assume this question was directed at me. In future games, i'll be hesitant to explain things that may manipulate decisions during a game. But this is the first game and it's important that everyone has a good grasp on how the game works.

Secondly, to address this issue, Daisy's observations are a huge aspect of why someone would be willing to scam, but your remarks are entirely correct too. Working every time is the most efficient way to reduce the host's income. But really, this game provides a huge opportunity for players to take more than their fair share. Team work is absolutely critical to pull it off perfectly, but my random advice is very calculated.

People reaching out to get more than their fair share is what makes this game psychological and competitive.


Even as it stands now at the end of Round 2, The requirements for Result #1 are NOT met!

let's review:

Result #1) If Work is Successful every single round, AND 3 or more players tie for the most money won during the game, I am successfully robbed blind, and the remains of the pot are divided evenly among all players.

Here's the Current Results:

First: 202.5 (1 Player)

Second: 200 (5 Players)

Third: 152.5 (1 Player)

Last: 95 (1 Player)



I hope this answers any questions as to why someone would deviate from working... As I imagined, The game is actually going to start getting interesting around Round 4 or Round 5...but it already is!

Good luck to all!

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CazzaC
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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2013 08:44:38
I know, but what I mean is, if you scam you get 50. If you work you get 100...

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:08:22
but 50 is bigger than nothing, cazzac.
and snitching can change the results totally but for snitching you need a scammer.

I've never played anything like this but I admit its very interesting...lol

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2013 16:51:26
The results are the most crucial part. Even if every player worked every time for every round after this, only 1 player would make a profit while 5 players break even and two lose money.

Teams can employ an array of different strategies to either boost one member, make work fail, or even lie to someone to paralyze them for a round.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2013 17:29:40
Reputed, if 4 scammed and 4 worked would the 4 scammers get the 50 still?

If so I see how this game works if not I may lose my mind

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2013 18:11:22
The 4 who scammed would get their 50 but the 4 who worked won't get anything at all.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2013 23:10:34
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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 00:16:01
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The 4 who scammed would get their 50 but the 4 who worked won't get anything at all.


He speaks the truth

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 00:27:27
Times up for Round 3 and the Results are in!

Gheed Profile for ID: 661744
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 195

Freyja Profile for ID: 1331448
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 300

Gotta_Get_Ya Profile for ID: 1698507
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 302.5

CazzaC Profile for ID: 1684840
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 300

Daisy3 Profile for ID: 730750
Decision: Scam
Snitch: Yes
Round Income: 50
Final Income: 250

Lord_Gorgen Profile for ID: 1629756
Decision: Scam
Snitch: Yes
Round Income: 50
Final Income: 202.5

b0ti Profile for ID: 1563474
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 300

S2K Profile for ID: 179029
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 300

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 01:59:28
still confused but having a lot of fun.
i'm not familiar with any game like this but its a real challenge for a change.

I figure by the time the real money games start I'll kind of know what I'm doing.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 03:05:04
Please, everyone, even people not playing, ask any questions you may have...


Daisy, I know you asked me about snitching so i'll edit this and c/p that here for everyone to see...

If there's any other confusions or misunderstandings, please post and i'll try to clarify


EDIT:

Daisy3 says:
I still don't quite understand the snitch part but as we progress I'll figure it out. Can there only be one snitch?


Ah...you may not want to learn all the in's and out's of snitching the hard way, as failing a snitch means you don't make a move AT ALL the next round. no work, no scam, nothing.

When you snitch, there has to be AT LEAST one person scamming. (yourself doesn't count, wouldn't make sense to be able to snitch on yourself)

But for every person that IS scamming when you snitch, you'll make 2.5 off every single one of those scammers, so, for example, if you snitched, and all 7 players scammed, you just made 17.5 and reduced each scammers profit by 2.5

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 03:24:21
okay so suppose all seven scammers decided to snitch too....then where are we?

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:17:22
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okay so suppose all seven scammers decided to snitch too....then where are we?


Everybody scamming? I think everybody get rewards for snitching = 2.5*7=17.5

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:09:03
per the results of last round, Lord Gorgen and I both snitched. Reputed told me one cancelled the other out. So I wondered how that would work if there was more than one snitch...like 6 or 7...lol

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 18:23:31
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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 19:09:22
At the moment we have already an interesting situation. Gheed, Daisy and Lord_Gorgen has scammed but work is still successful. That means all three of you lose more than 50 points. That means if you want to win you must cooperate and scam all together, so leader's work is unsuccesful. You have to do it or you won't have chances to win.
And now about leaders - lets take people with 300 points. They lose 2.5 to me, so just working won't be good for them. There are 2 ways, I know it a risk, but anyway: 1)work+snitch - if I will just work, but somebody scams they will catch me up no matter work is succesful or not; 2)succesful scam+snitch I suppose and if work they would take the lead.
There could be some over ways, but everything hinges on unsuccesful work.
What do you think guys? Because it the fist game I decided to share my thoughts with everybody

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 19:14:36
By Gotta_Get_Ya [1698507]
At the moment we have already an interesting situation. Gheed, Daisy and Lord_Gorgen has scammed but work is still successful. That means all three of you lose more than 50 points. That means if you want to win you must cooperate and scam all together, so leader's work is unsuccesful. You have to do it or you won't have chances to win.


maybe something like this has been my plan since the beginning

The lord has entered the forum, time to bend over and say "Yes my lord".
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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 19:17:06
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By Gotta_Get_Ya [1698507]
At the moment we have already an interesting situation. Gheed, Daisy and Lord_Gorgen has scammed but work is still successful. That means all three of you lose more than 50 points. That means if you want to win you must cooperate and scam all together, so leader's work is unsuccesful. You have to do it or you won't have chances to win.


maybe something like this has been my plan since the beginning


Oh, I see, but you did it wrong. What we have now I'll call "random scams". You may use your mailbox to choose the round when to scam

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 19:23:42
I know.. It didn't go exactly how I planed

The lord has entered the forum, time to bend over and say "Yes my lord".
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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 19:36:24
Hope next time you will be more organized

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 21:11:04
ahh, to answer the question...

Snitching moves money, it doesn't add or take away money.

if 8 people all scammed and snitched they'd all end up w/ 50 each since they all gain and lose (2.5*7)

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 23:32:44
The only thing I'm sure of is anything might happen.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2013 23:40:25
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The only thing I'm sure of is anything might happen.


Wants to see blood and action!
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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 01:54:14
Times up for Round 4 and the Results are in! This time, I've added decision and snitch separately so you can see what's happened more easily

Gheed Profile for ID: 661744
Decision: Scam
Snitch: No
Round Income: 50 - (2.5*5) = 37.5
Final Income: 232.5

Freyja Profile for ID: 1331448
Decision: Work
Snitch: Yes
Round Income: 100 + (2.5*2) = 105
Final Income: 405

Gotta_Get_Ya Profile for ID: 1698507
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 402.5

CazzaC Profile for ID: 1684840
Decision: Work
Snitch: Yes
Round Income: 100 + (2.5*2) = 105
Final Income: 405

Daisy3 Profile for ID: 730750
Decision: Scam
Snitch: Yes
Round Income: 50 - (2.5*4) + (2.5*1) = 42.5
Final Income: 292.5

Lord_Gorgen Profile for ID: 1629756
Decision: Work
Snitch: No
Round Income: 100
Final Income: 302.5

b0ti Profile for ID: 1563474
Decision: Work
Snitch: Yes
Round Income: 100 + (2.5*2) = 105
Final Income: 405

S2K Profile for ID: 179029
Decision: Work
Snitch: Yes
Round Income: 100 + (2.5*2) = 105
Final Income: 405

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 02:14:27
okay, I read the rules again....somehow I got it in my brain that you couldn't snitch unless you scam but actually you get 5% of scammers wins with snitching and anyone can do it....my brain hurts....lol

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 02:26:53
but I am going to be a master (or mistress) of this by the time the next game starts!!!







so watch out!

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