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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 06:29:44
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What is happening here...


What should be happening...
We should be saying thank you to the staff members who got rid of a large amount of cheaters that were using a bug/exploit to further their advancement in the game.

What is happening...
Someone, MnQueen, is using this thread as a place to verbally bash staff while releasing her pent up aggression towards perceived discrimination against her. It really isn't the place for it and should be taken to private messages but somehow she doesn't understand that this is not the place to grind an axe.

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 06:42:55
wow wow glad it wasent me haha bad cheaters

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 07:03:30
This is really great and im very happy that those cheaters were deleted, because some of us really work very hard to get those stats.

Chedburn, u really rock mate well done and keep up the good work.

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:00:10
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Didn't you say at one point that if we find an exploit and report it that we'll be rewarded? I'm not going to try to say that the 18 users fedded / 10 users banned were researching the exploit, however the title of the thread might be a little off-putting for people who look into exploits.


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There user who came forward with this bug/exploit will be credited a healthy sum of points.


He did yes, literally in the post you quoted.


Yes, but assume that multiple people are researching the same bug and trying to find a way to reproduce it, then one person finds it, reports it, and all the people looking into it that may have only used it once, perhaps twice, get banned. That's counterintuitive.



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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:12:27
what exactly did the exploit do, did it give extra trains or something?

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:27:14
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Didn't you say at one point that if we find an exploit and report it that we'll be rewarded? I'm not going to try to say that the 18 users fedded / 10 users banned were researching the exploit, however the title of the thread might be a little off-putting for people who look into exploits.


By Chedburn [1]
There user who came forward with this bug/exploit will be credited a healthy sum of points.


He did yes, literally in the post you quoted.


Yes, but assume that multiple people are researching the same bug and trying to find a way to reproduce it, then one person finds it, reports it, and all the people looking into it that may have only used it once, perhaps twice, get banned. That's counterintuitive.



"Weve also fedded 18 other accounts which used the exploit once, and did not come forward about it."

That's not counterintuitive. Surely it's simple common sense? If you were trying to reproduce the exploit and didn't come forward about it (which most people would to safeguard their accounts; even if it's a short note to staff) then - lesson to learn: staff are not psychic (or maybe they are in which case: do you know where my Visa credit card went because I can't find the bl**dy thing anywehere)



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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:30:07
By 123_Kid [887159]
What is happening...
Someone, MnQueen, is using this thread as a place to verbally bash staff while releasing her pent up aggression towards perceived discrimination against her. It really isn't the place for it and should be taken to private messages but somehow she doesn't understand that this is not the place to grind an axe.


It's not just here. The fact is MNQueen is just a drama queen who rants and calls over people names at every opportunity, and it's been going on forever.

Funny thing is, I don't even like the people she claims have wronged her, and yet it still annoys me cause she just won't shutup about it.

Most people move on, but this person thinks they have to fight some kind of personal crusade to make sure the dirty dirty world of online gaming is holy and pure.

My guess is that Bailey mugged her, and Queen thinks it's some kind of targeted conspiracy hit, even though Bailey has been mugging everyone she can find with every ounce of her energy for several days now.

It's just pathetic, and very old.

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:31:41
anyone know excatly what the exploit was

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:35:14
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anyone know excatly what the exploit was


It doesn't really matter. If you were supposed to know then someone would have told you in the previous posts

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 08:49:13
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By mavrick19 [1131110]
anyone know excatly what the exploit was


It doesn't really matter. If you were supposed to know then someone would have told you in the previous posts



I think it was said.. lots of energy for free

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 09:04:21
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By mavrick19 [1131110]
anyone know excatly what the exploit was


It doesn't really matter. If you were supposed to know then someone would have told you in the previous posts



I think it was said.. lots of energy for free


I think your post is pointless.

People know the nature of the exploit, but in hopes that staff havent done their job (not a long shot) and patched the bug they are hoping to exploit it themselves.

If you want to know how to exploit it mail me, I will help you in your quest to get deleted, the rest of you reading this dont bother mailing me questioning how it was done. You will be ignored and considered a great big ball of douche

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 09:06:16
By -rob- [65426]
By 123_Kid [887159]
What is happening...
Someone, MnQueen, is using this thread as a place to verbally bash staff while releasing her pent up aggression towards perceived discrimination against her. It really isn't the place for it and should be taken to private messages but somehow she doesn't understand that this is not the place to grind an axe.


It's not just here. The fact is MNQueen is just a drama queen who rants and calls over people names at every opportunity, and it's been going on forever.

Funny thing is, I don't even like the people she claims have wronged her, and yet it still annoys me cause she just won't shutup about it.

Most people move on, but this person thinks they have to fight some kind of personal crusade to make sure the dirty dirty world of online gaming is holy and pure.

My guess is that Bailey mugged her, and Queen thinks it's some kind of targeted conspiracy hit, even though Bailey has been mugging everyone she can find with every ounce of her energy for several days now.

It's just pathetic, and very old.


Wait, WP does not know her/him but was JFK and has a WP profile that says WP loves me, I find that very suspicious and considering I have not been attacked in months, I find it very hard to think it was not a set up. But what ever keep the lies coming, it does not surprise me.

Your right I cant let things go when PEOPLE LIE, CHEAT, STEAL or are scumbags. Can't see it happen real soon. Its like poker, if you have to cheat playing free poker you are scum of the earth. As you are cheating at a online game. Whats the point if you have to cheat? Anyone can be number one if they cheat.

The topic was about how a whistle blower got paid off for doing the right thing, my point was what about others who have came forward? Does this person have special "friends"? if not then why does the previous players who have came forward got the same treatment or rewards?


Something to ponder:

Let me share a bit of wisdom for all my haters out there.

25% of the people hate you for the right reasons
25% of the people hate you for the wrong reasons
25% of the people like you for the wrong reasons
25% of the people like you for the right reasons

I only care about the last 25%, the rest of you can kiss my big white .....



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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 09:18:05
Well done to the player who came forward. Those people shouldn't cheat. And they deserve the punishment.


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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 09:23:52
By HudsonHawks [63384]
I gotta say great job to Staff and Chedburn....I'm sure like most people who are in the know of TC, The Gang came from out of nowhere...rewind 12 months and they where a bunch of mid stat guys who where easily pwned....fast forward and somehow they all are nearly unbeatable.

It all makes sense...barely any enhancers used and they all where in a theater, nobody could question their stats if they dont know what they where.

Gotta say it culdn't have happened to a nicer bunch of guys


+1

Flint and his buddies were a bunch of tools anyway......especially Chuck_B or Elwood_Blues or whatever he called himself nowadays.......doesn't surprise me that they couldnt play straight up........this game is more important than real life to some people

I am intrigued as to how they abused this, whether they just never lost energy when training and didnt report this, or that they managed to hack into the system somehow.......funny to see they didnt share the information with the entire faction as well.......why the rest of those guys are sat in a faction/company with a bunch of cheats is beyond me

Oh, and +1 to whoever pointed out Ched offered real $$$$ to anyone reporting big exploits......as a staff member Im sure Flint could have claimed a nice night out on Ched for reporting that......the fact he chose to abuse it instead speaks volumes........whatever will he do now he has to go outside occassionaly

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 09:26:00
By MnQueen [420347]
Something to ponder:

Let me share a bit of wisdom for all my haters out there.

25% of the people hate you for the right reasons
25% of the people hate you for the wrong reasons
25% of the people like you for the wrong reasons
25% of the people like you for the right reasons

I only care about the last 25%, the rest of you can kiss my big white .....


Haha......thats the best thing I ever saw you post....genius


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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 09:42:55
Great Ched.They deserved it.
btw is there really a cheat like dat?
unlimited energy
cool i wish i could use dat(jk)

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:22:20
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By HudsonHawks [63384]
I gotta say great job to Staff and Chedburn....I'm sure like most people who are in the know of TC, The Gang came from out of nowhere...rewind 12 months and they where a bunch of mid stat guys who where easily pwned....fast forward and somehow they all are nearly unbeatable.

It all makes sense...barely any enhancers used and they all where in a theater, nobody could question their stats if they dont know what they where.

Gotta say it culdn't have happened to a nicer bunch of guys




I am intrigued as to how they abused this, whether they just never lost energy when training and didnt report this, or that they managed to hack into the system somehow......


It seems it was a bit of a complicated bug. There is 100% without a doubt no way one could benefit from this and not only notice, but have to willingly know they were breaking the rules.

Good riddance to the bunch of them, now if we could only start working on the people that exploited the poker bug. Then a few more high level accounts that made the playing field lopsided might get deleted


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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:25:28
I need to grow up

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:25:49
Out of curiosity, could someone like Flint make a new account and start again? Or would they keep getting fedded?

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:27:26
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saving staff time


Sooo, Flint had multies tooxD

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:48:13
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I need to grow up


lmfao


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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:06:47
great work ched,,get rid of all cheats

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:09:57
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Out of curiosity, could someone like Flint make a new account and start again? Or would they keep getting fedded?


Once their original account was deleted they would be free to start a new account. One would think a former staff member who cheated would be treated differently, but recent staff members have been deleted and restarted so I presume he will be able to as well

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:10:41
like one said - crime does not pay and all lies will come out one day! and then you will have to pay for the damage you have done.

hope ppl will learn from this

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:13:54
My usual name is Slevin. I attacked you as i wanted to test my new duals. I havn't spoken to WP since i left JFK. Thankyou and goodnight.

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:18:28
This is why staff needs to expand to different people and not a close group of friends. Staff should never feel above the "law" of torn.

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:21:14
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This is why staff needs to expand to different people and not a close group of friends. Staff should never feel above the "law" of torn.


+1

Reporting staff seems almost useless right now. While this may be a sign that staff do fed other staff, but one could argue he is in fed for telling so many other people about his exploit, not for using it himself

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:32:40
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This is why staff needs to expand to different people and not a close group of friends. Staff should never feel above the "law" of torn.


I has friends now?

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:33:06
So if I'm thinking right this programme is running on a ghost history file like nortan or something not total sure

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Posted on Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:34:46
Good job!

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