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iloveKARTYxox
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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 00:46:04
By Negativity [656098]
By Davz [323969]
By Doyley [895639]
Thanks .. Any chance of the geeky explaination? Something happened to the nameservers?

Nope, nameservers actually unaffected.

I cant go into too many details for obvious reasons, but basically we have a load of people who are doing what appears at the moment to be little more than portscanning (but thousands of times per second). This causes a) firewalls were configured to block the IP after x failed connections (and with PAT this often means blocking other users) or the firewall to just hit the limit in terms of number of connections it can cope with from that source IP (same problem).

The solution is to put the loadbalancer outside the firewall and different firewall particularly tuned for filtering vast amounts of HTTP traffic.

This obviously takes time, requires hardware (both of which require donations - so thanks guys that do donate!!) but the target is to have this done by mid week, i.e. Wednesday.

-Davz


Could those of us who aren't computer geeks (most of us) get that in english, please?


Basically, people are doing something to the server (probably for some reason that will never be told to us) and the protection system is blocking their IP from accessing the website. This basically blocked a few other IP's and meant that people who didn't do wrong were blocked from the website, along with the muppets who did.

I wonder what they got from doing what they did though?

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 00:47:07
By Shoot3r [896546]
By Negativity [656098]
By Davz [323969]
By Doyley [895639]
Thanks .. Any chance of the geeky explaination? Something happened to the nameservers?

Nope, nameservers actually unaffected.

I cant go into too many details for obvious reasons, but basically we have a load of people who are doing what appears at the moment to be little more than portscanning (but thousands of times per second). This causes a) firewalls were configured to block the IP after x failed connections (and with PAT this often means blocking other users) or the firewall to just hit the limit in terms of number of connections it can cope with from that source IP (same problem).

The solution is to put the loadbalancer outside the firewall and different firewall particularly tuned for filtering vast amounts of HTTP traffic.

This obviously takes time, requires hardware (both of which require donations - so thanks guys that do donate!!) but the target is to have this done by mid week, i.e. Wednesday.

-Davz


Could those of us who aren't computer geeks (most of us) get that in english, please?


Basically, people are doing something to the server (probably for some reason that will never be told to us) and the protection system is blocking their IP from accessing the website. This basically blocked a few other IP's and meant that people who didn't do wrong were blocked from the website, along with the muppets who did.

I wonder what they got from doing what they did though?


Oh, k. Thanks Now i just wanna know what those certain people were doing..

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 00:52:47
dude i had tons of loaing problems took 10 min to load one pagexP

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 00:53:10
By Negativity [656098]Could those of us who aren't computer geeks (most of us) get that in english, please?

Well, I was asked for a geeky explanation.

In english - we have had a problem, there is a workaround, it will be fixed mid next week. This problem has caused a lot of pain to some users while most have not noticed. To those whom this has affected, sorry!

-Davz

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 00:55:53
hi davz

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 01:01:44
thank you very much

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 01:09:23
Some cheaters probably trying to get into the system and set their level, money, points, etc. like the guy on youtube tells them it is an account that ched set up for each staff member to have 5B a week to use any way they want. It isn't true it just causes the system to get gummed up from all the false hits, and the guy cracks/phishes your account and robs you of your identity.

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 01:10:10
By Negativity [656098]
By Davz [323969]
By Doyley [895639]
Thanks .. Any chance of the geeky explaination? Something happened to the nameservers?

Nope, nameservers actually unaffected.

I cant go into too many details for obvious reasons, but basically we have a load of people who are doing what appears at the moment to be little more than portscanning (but thousands of times per second). This causes a) firewalls were configured to block the IP after x failed connections (and with PAT this often means blocking other users) or the firewall to just hit the limit in terms of number of connections it can cope with from that source IP (same problem).

The solution is to put the loadbalancer outside the firewall and different firewall particularly tuned for filtering vast amounts of HTTP traffic.

This obviously takes time, requires hardware (both of which require donations - so thanks guys that do donate!!) but the target is to have this done by mid week, i.e. Wednesday.

-Davz


Could those of us who aren't computer geeks (most of us) get that in english, please?


to de-geek it a lil bit:

ports are like doors, and people are scanning to see which doors are open, to use them as a way in, port 80 is normal web traffic, so anything else could be a way in (3389 is standard RDP port) so what they are going to do, i believe is put a piece of hardware in, with 2 internet connections that can filter the traffic, and another hardware firewall to filter the port scan traffic from the "real" traffic

Am i right Davz?

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 01:26:41
^^^^

I don't understand

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 01:26:49
Thank you, bookmarked.

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 01:40:28
By Shoot3r [896546]
By Negativity [656098]
By Davz [323969]
By Doyley [895639]
Thanks .. Any chance of the geeky explaination? Something happened to the nameservers?

Nope, nameservers actually unaffected.

I cant go into too many details for obvious reasons, but basically we have a load of people who are doing what appears at the moment to be little more than portscanning (but thousands of times per second). This causes a) firewalls were configured to block the IP after x failed connections (and with PAT this often means blocking other users) or the firewall to just hit the limit in terms of number of connections it can cope with from that source IP (same problem).

The solution is to put the loadbalancer outside the firewall and different firewall particularly tuned for filtering vast amounts of HTTP traffic.

This obviously takes time, requires hardware (both of which require donations - so thanks guys that do donate!!) but the target is to have this done by mid week, i.e. Wednesday.

-Davz


Could those of us who aren't computer geeks (most of us) get that in english, please?


Basically, people are doing something to the server (probably for some reason that will never be told to us) and the protection system is blocking their IP from accessing the website. This basically blocked a few other IP's and meant that people who didn't do wrong were blocked from the website, along with the muppets who did.

I wonder what they got from doing what they did though?



To me you made it all understandable to ppl that don't know much about the server world. This is the answer hopefully to those that don't understand about writing codes... PPL can use offense to get around the codes CHED family writes... Now its costing other members their IP blockage due to hataz mad cause TC do what they wish they're system can do... TC needs to get a good legal team to MAIL/SUE... Find a new idea toward CHED & CLOSE STAFF. Ok CHED have to work hard against haters.... Nice TC world to me but hataz always come so Ched. USE LEGAL MATTERS.... They will fail 98% of the time!!! I said 98% cause legal matters are different in different countries and states.... Different laws different bountries so good luck CHED & FAMILY.....

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Moguai

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 01:43:18
I still get a few connection errors when using the direct iP.

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 01:53:45
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1:46 AM You pop the Xanax pill in to your mouth and down a glass of water. You better use the Energy quickly!

Awesome work yet again. Massive wave of lag and I couldn't get to the gym before the energy cron ran and it got reset back to 150.

Can I just ask, are you paid for this or are you an amateur ?

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 02:10:33
Like I read before on the English part/description is true. Ports are ways a computer/server runs and uses services if a cracker could find a way to compromise one of them he could virtual curropt the game. So what ever it was good thing davz caught it and or stopped it.

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 02:16:20
Finally, I'm connected minus all those "502 Bad Gateway"s.

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 02:17:47
By Milehighclub [21148]
By Negativity [656098]
By Davz [323969]
By Doyley [895639]
Thanks .. Any chance of the geeky explaination? Something happened to the nameservers?

Nope, nameservers actually unaffected.

I cant go into too many details for obvious reasons, but basically we have a load of people who are doing what appears at the moment to be little more than portscanning (but thousands of times per second). This causes a) firewalls were configured to block the IP after x failed connections (and with PAT this often means blocking other users) or the firewall to just hit the limit in terms of number of connections it can cope with from that source IP (same problem).

The solution is to put the loadbalancer outside the firewall and different firewall particularly tuned for filtering vast amounts of HTTP traffic.

This obviously takes time, requires hardware (both of which require donations - so thanks guys that do donate!!) but the target is to have this done by mid week, i.e. Wednesday.

-Davz


Could those of us who aren't computer geeks (most of us) get that in english, please?


to de-geek it a lil bit:

ports are like doors, and people are scanning to see which doors are open, to use them as a way in, port 80 is normal web traffic, so anything else could be a way in (3389 is standard RDP port) so what they are going to do, i believe is put a piece of hardware in, with 2 internet connections that can filter the traffic, and another hardware firewall to filter the port scan traffic from the "real" traffic

Am i right Davz?


Sounds about right. There are several ports that need to be open to allow the server to function. Some need to be filtered to allow only specific IP addresses to use that port, others need to be blocked completely.

Cheers for the info Davz!


Once again a donator \o/
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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 03:14:27
thank you for that!

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 03:14:47
thanks Davz

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 03:42:34
Possibly a dumb question. Will the external filter slow down our connection to the game when this hardware is put into effect?




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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 04:26:21
By Davz [323969]
Users with a problem (not others please) can access a temporary URL at http://83.223.121.80:9000/


Posting for a friend...

URL doesn't work, and other fixes also tried give the following errors:

The connection has timed out
The server at www.torncity.com is taking too long to respond.
The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.

Any other ideas?

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 05:28:17
thanks

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 05:43:26
oky.
now understand why my crimes dnt load, and mail take 5 min to be send or read.

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 05:58:00
Nice..

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 07:07:59
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By Davz [323969]
Users with a problem (not others please) can access a temporary URL at http://83.223.121.80:9000/


Posting for a friend...

URL doesn't work, and other fixes also tried give the following errors:

The connection has timed out
The server at www.torncity.com is taking too long to respond.
The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.

Any other ideas?

Please email a screenshot to webmaster@torn.com.


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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 07:14:31
Thanks Davz, I always really appreciate your technical explinations so that I know what's going on.

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 07:25:33
oh that explains why i was getting the "502 bad gateway" thing

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 08:10:30
nice at least were moving in the right step

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 08:27:27
Great! After all I can play TC again. During the past week, I could login but could hardly do anything else.

To help players with problems like mine, could you send a system mail letting them know about this new loggin link? It took me ages to access and read the annoucement.

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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:44:30
By Negativity [656098]
By Davz [323969]
By Doyley [895639]
Thanks .. Any chance of the geeky explaination? Something happened to the nameservers?

Nope, nameservers actually unaffected.

I cant go into too many details for obvious reasons, but basically we have a load of people who are doing what appears at the moment to be little more than portscanning (but thousands of times per second). This causes a) firewalls were configured to block the IP after x failed connections (and with PAT this often means blocking other users) or the firewall to just hit the limit in terms of number of connections it can cope with from that source IP (same problem).

The solution is to put the loadbalancer outside the firewall and different firewall particularly tuned for filtering vast amounts of HTTP traffic.

This obviously takes time, requires hardware (both of which require donations - so thanks guys that do donate!!) but the target is to have this done by mid week, i.e. Wednesday.

-Davz


Could those of us who aren't computer geeks (most of us) get that in english, please?


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Posted on Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:38:23
crackers = people running brute force attacks trying to steal our accounts

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