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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:17:31
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Didnt say we were done tweaking cupcake! Its day 1 ...we have a foundation to work with....We are not opposed to some tweaking


How about "tweaking" it out of the game

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:20:01
I think it should work on respect
eg
1-250 -rank10
251-450 -rank 9
451-700 -rank8
701-1000 -rank7
1001-1400 -rank6
1401-1700 -rank5
1701-2000 -rank4
2001-2400 -rank3
2401-2700 -rank2
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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:21:44
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Aaah well unlike you we have to think about the level 5 surviving ingame. Im sorry to be the one to break this to you but there are other players in the game besides the hof and those with huge stats.


Much respect!

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:22:41

Well I think the overall idea is a good step towards making the game more fun overall. I think a few things for sure need to be tweaked here and there.

I agree that in the rank 1 category it's a little odd that 100k stat players are in the same rank as those with 500 mill totals. They can't compete with that head to head and will be too afraid to go agressive. Can you blame them? Not only that, they'll be warring every hof faction with a few days.

infinite peaceful status with no incentive to go agressive. No penalty for staying peaceful. Can stay war free forever and just keep earning them upgrades and eventually max out all their faction upgrades and THEN, go aggressive to use them. That's not right. *inserts face palm here*

I think overall for the lower ranked factions right now it would be much more fun for them to war though as they don't have to worry about being destroyed so easily. Smaller chains now matter more. More comparible statted people in their ranks. Many many thousands of people to war for fun for them in comparible lvl's and stats.

Holy hell. kyle8048's outta fed.

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:23:03
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I think it should work on respect
eg
1-250 -rank10
251-450 -rank 9
451-700 -rank8
701-1000 -rank7
1001-1400 -rank6
1401-1700 -rank5
1701-2000 -rank4
2001-2400 -rank3
2401-2700 -rank2
2701-3000 -rank1
3000-5000 -Professional
5001-7000 -Exeptional
7001-9999 -Ramarkable
10000+ -Elite

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Wouldnt work. I could buy a brandnew faction and declare on a bunch of noobs to gain respect and zero them. And then what?

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:23:22
By Bill_Goldberg [1202517]
I think it should work on respect
eg
1-250 -rank10
251-450 -rank 9
451-700 -rank8
701-1000 -rank7
1001-1400 -rank6
1401-1700 -rank5
1701-2000 -rank4
2001-2400 -rank3
2401-2700 -rank2
2701-3000 -rank1
3000-5000 -Professional
5001-7000 -Exeptional
7001-9999 -Ramarkable
10000+ -Elite

If anyone likes my idea reply to this post



heres what i think about that





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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:23:48
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Aaah well unlike you we have to think about the level 5 surviving ingame. Im sorry to be the one to break this to you but there are other players in the game besides the hof and those with huge stats.


Im all up for level 5's surviving and prospering and making it to level 50.

But as I pointed out in my earlier post - given that tiered system is based on total amount of factions, this will only speed up the destroying of those that go aggressive. Cuz by destroying a faction thats rank 1, you get (at 6am next day) a new faction thats gonna be rank 1.

Not to mention the fact that peaceful factions havent been offered absolutely any incentive with this update, this whole thing was meant to stimulate them to go aggressive .. and simply put, it failed to do so.


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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:25:00
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I think it should work on respect
eg
1-250 -rank10
251-450 -rank 9
451-700 -rank8
701-1000 -rank7
1001-1400 -rank6
1401-1700 -rank5
1701-2000 -rank4
2001-2400 -rank3
2401-2700 -rank2
2701-3000 -rank1
3000-5000 -Professional
5001-7000 -Exeptional
7001-9999 -Ramarkable
10000+ -Elite

If anyone likes my idea reply to this post



You've solved the puzzle we been dealing with for years!! You are genius and should be credited sumfin good! Love'et!




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Why should the level 5 beating on another level 5 be any different then you beating on a level 47?


it shouldnt, but if they keep holding lvl and going up in the ranks as their stats grow, they'll gain even more respect from higher lvls. level holders already have an advantage in wars. if lvl5 gains 5-6 respect (that i gain from lvl47) from lvl5, then they could gain 10 respect from lvl20, no?

i know we have no clue about the numbers now, but if this is close to the truth, lvl holding should be removed



Awwww DB you aint afraid of me taking a little more respect off of you are you?


im talking about strong lvl holders




xD

I'm up to almost 2 pushups a day now.


Edited by: D3ADLY on 23/05/09 at 8:26:07 PM

Holy hell. kyle8048's outta fed.

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:25:13
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Why should the level 5 beating on another level 5 be any different then you beating on a level 47?


Because the currency of the game is "respect". When 2 kids fight it out in school nobody cares, but when 2 organized crime bosses fight it out, its all over the news.

Its Ched, not me, who always says that the game should be realistic.


Aaah well unlike you we have to think about the level 5 surviving ingame. Im sorry to be the one to break this to you but there are other players in the game besides the hof and those with huge stats.


amen

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Make it happen Ched
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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:27:12
a solution to this whole thing is make the peaceful factions no more. this is a waring game so make it that way. if they want peace they can join the peace corps:P


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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:27:15
now peaceful faction won't have to think about their peaceful status

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:30:23
Just a quick question: Does this mean that only the faction rank matters when calculating respect gainsfrom chains?

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:30:24
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Okay I'm going to try to break this down for you all!

[quote]Peaceful status no longer has 'days remaining'. Factions will stay in peaceful status until they want to change over.


they took away our peacefull days..but, we dont get credited back the respect we used to get those peacefull days?


Why should you? You used that respect to stay peaceful during that time. Just cause a new system was introduced doesn't mean you should be credited. You can already stay peaceful forever with no worries of ever being warred. Can max out all your upgrades. Then go agressive and make use of all of them some day. Quit your crying and quit bein a baby. Pisses me off.


eh? how does a 1k day player have no clue...talking about peacefull days that were not used yet...why dont you read the thread over and see who's crying...and i dont care if i piss you off what are you going to do about it?

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:31:37
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Aaah well unlike you we have to think about the level 5 surviving ingame. Im sorry to be the one to break this to you but there are other players in the game besides the hof and those with huge stats.



And this is why levels 5s do not belong in factions. You know where I was four years ago when I was level 5? outside of a faction waiting to meet the level requirement for Infected Plague while training to be the best I could, eventually outstatting everyone in the Plague family.

Furthermore, as a level 10 I never wasted my energy attacking a level 5 and I sure as hell wont do it now as a level 46 in the HOF.




Edited by: Lieutenant_Wolf on 23/05/09 at 8:35:15 PM

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:31:39
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Current number of factions in specified ranks:

rank 1 : 226
rank 2: 229
rank 3: 229
rank 4: 229
rank 5: 229
rank 6: 229
rank 7: 229
rank 8: 229
rank 9: 229
rank 10: 229
unranked: 1,032


And currently no effective way of searching those 3000 odd factions via either rank or status other than going through each and every one.

It would also appear that we have to memorise the rank of every faction we war so we know who we're hitting during a chain as there's no indication of rank in the warbase view.

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:32:48

I think we should have like a TC board of trustees or something.

Different players from all areas of the game. Maybe 10 people or so. 20 even. Who know it can be whatever the public thinks best. Anway, these players need to be active and know a lot about the game.

What they do is discuss changes in the game and any tweaking that needs to be done. Listen to general ideas of the TC public and take them into consideration and talk about them. Weigh out the pros and cons of them. Speak like in a prive irc room during these times and when everything seems good to go... present the ideas to Ched.

I think it might help spead overall processes of things and would help.

Holy hell. kyle8048's outta fed.

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:33:56
what about all of the respect points that were used to extend peaceful status? will we get those returned?


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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:36:07
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what about all of the respect points that were used to extend peaceful status? will we get those returned?


Clansdancer has already answered that...NO!


Free Kyle!
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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:37:18
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what about all of the respect points that were used to extend peaceful status? will we get those returned?


this .gif will answer that question quite well




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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:37:47
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Okay I'm going to try to break this down for you all!

[quote]Peaceful status no longer has 'days remaining'. Factions will stay in peaceful status until they want to change over.


they took away our peacefull days..but, we dont get credited back the respect we used to get those peacefull days?


Why should you? You used that respect to stay peaceful during that time. Just cause a new system was introduced doesn't mean you should be credited. You can already stay peaceful forever with no worries of ever being warred. Can max out all your upgrades. Then go agressive and make use of all of them some day. Quit your crying and quit bein a baby. Pisses me off.


eh? how does a 1k day player have no clue...talking about peacefull days that were not used yet...why dont you read the thread over and see who's crying...and i dont care if i piss you off what are you going to do about it?


Now the debate of wether I use 50e to slap you silly. Hmm...


Edited by: D3ADLY on 23/05/09 at 8:43:08 PM

Holy hell. kyle8048's outta fed.

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:38:15
Can we at least get different hofs for factions? I'm pretty sure a 100 man oc factory is going to churn out more respect than a five man aggressive faction. =/

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:42:25

I think factions should be used for warring. No peaceful.

If people want peaceful I think they should have something else they can purchase. Call it a clubhouse or something. There you can do the peaceful thing. They could also be in a warring faction the same time they're in these as well. So they can have the fun and war from a faction as well and not worry about their clubhouse being destroyed. I think that's a lot of people's fear is having their faction "home" destroyed in no time.

Holy hell. kyle8048's outta fed.

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:51:12
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Okay I'm going to try to break this down for you all!

[quote]Peaceful status no longer has 'days remaining'. Factions will stay in peaceful status until they want to change over.


they took away our peacefull days..but, we dont get credited back the respect we used to get those peacefull days?


Why should you? You used that respect to stay peaceful during that time. Just cause a new system was introduced doesn't mean you should be credited. You can already stay peaceful forever with no worries of ever being warred. Can max out all your upgrades. Then go agressive and make use of all of them some day. Quit your crying and quit bein a baby. Pisses me off.


eh? how does a 1k day player have no clue...talking about peacefull days that were not used yet...why dont you read the thread over and see who's crying...and i dont care if i piss you off what are you going to do about it?


Now the debate of wether I use 50e to slap you silly. Hmm...


Edited by: D3ADLY on 23/05/09 at 8:43:08 PM


to stay on topic...i think this update is good...

i think you should use your 50e..im all drugged up..

dont worry i have meds..
Morphine x470 Medical In Stock Manage
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8D



Edited by: cranium on 23/05/09 at 8:52:36 PM

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 20:56:26
"Peaceful status no longer has 'days remaining'. Factions will stay in peaceful status until they want to change over."

I dont think there could have been a worse decision regarding factions but then again I dont own TC. I just watch it crumble.

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 21:04:37
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I think factions should be used for warring. No peaceful.

If people want peaceful I think they should have something else they can purchase. Call it a clubhouse or something. There you can do the peaceful thing. They could also be in a warring faction the same time they're in these as well. So they can have the fun and war from a faction as well and not worry about their clubhouse being destroyed. I think that's a lot of people's fear is having their faction "home" destroyed in no time.


That sounds awesome

Also, yeah, taking away the buying more peaceful days doesn't make any sense. I know it wasn't exactly hard to survive before, but at least there was something. And when peaceful days started to run out, it always at least triggered the discussion "maybe we could try going aggressive...." Will any peaceful faction think that now?

The rank thing has potential, but I'm not convinced that the way it's set up right now will work.

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 21:05:09
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to stay on topic...i think this update is good...

i think you should use your 50e..im all drugged up..

dont worry i have meds..
Morphine x470 Medical In Stock Manage
Small first aid kit x502 Medical In Stock Manage

8D
Edited by: cranium on 23/05/09 at 8:52:36 PM




You continue to beat cranium on the ground.
When his face is smashed in you decide he has had enough and jog home.


Good. Use them.


Holy hell. kyle8048's outta fed.

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 21:07:11
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to stay on topic...i think this update is good...

i think you should use your 50e..im all drugged up..

dont worry i have meds..
Morphine x470 Medical In Stock Manage
Small first aid kit x502 Medical In Stock Manage

8D
Edited by: cranium on 23/05/09 at 8:52:36 PM




You continue to beat cranium on the ground.
When his face is smashed in you decide he has had enough and jog home.


Good. Use them.


lol i can see reno laughing




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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 21:14:53
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By cranium [856568]
to stay on topic...i think this update is good...

i think you should use your 50e..im all drugged up..

dont worry i have meds..
Morphine x470 Medical In Stock Manage
Small first aid kit x502 Medical In Stock Manage

8D
Edited by: cranium on 23/05/09 at 8:52:36 PM




You continue to beat cranium on the ground.
When his face is smashed in you decide he has had enough and jog home.


Good. Use them.


Oii, stop hosp n00bs and get ready to chain Reno !!


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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 21:15:15
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what a shit update


says the whiney high level who is too much of a p**sy to attack his own level players

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Posted on Sat May 23, 2009 21:17:30
Yusuke, you are around my level...

Status: Peaceful

Put up or shutup.

Join a warring faction and come experience Factions as they are meant to be...

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