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Thread created on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:25:36
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The stock market changes have now been released. It will require tweaking over the next couple of days, but other than that we are very happy with the outcome.

- Users have to now trade shares with each other, not directly back to Torn City. There are however NPCs who buy shares occasionally based on certain odds and stock traits.

- Users can now sell shares on a market. It is not a viewable market, buying and selling works the way it used to, but transactions are between users, not User Torn City. All transactions are anonymous.

- 6 hour stay-in rule is now removed, since there is no need any more.

- Stocks have been changed to go up and down more, and have huge spikes. Each of the stocks now have more individual character.

- Some stocks now go up and down based on what happens in Torn City. For example, BAG (Big al’s Gun Shop Stock) goes up and down depending on how many people buy guns. TCHS goes up and down depending on how many people are in hospital over time. And many more.

- Stocks now have forecasts. Forecasts range from “Very Good” to “Very poor” which can be used as an indication of how much the stock will go up/down for the next few days / weeks. This may not always be correct.

- Shares have been placed in to the stock market via NPCs, these shares can then be purchased by users and traded amongst other users. There are only a certain amount of shares available in each stock, but if some stocks become very popular, we can easily add more shares.

- A demand structure has been added. If shares are for sale for long periods of a certain stock (if no one wants to buy the stock) the price will gradually fall. If lots of people want to buy the stock but there aren’t any sellers, prices will gradually rise. Basically, user demand for stocks affect stock price.

- Users are now able to purchase shares in the TCSE as a whole, not individual stocks. Buying and selling of this will be much quicker, but there won’t be many large gains/falls. A good place for people to ‘dabble’ in the stock market quickly and easily, and relatively safely.

- Users can also trade stock transactions with each other, for whatever prices they want.

There are also other changes to come, bank interest will be changed shortly to give us more control over the economy, company taxes may also be introduced.

Thank you.



Edited by: Chedburn on 03/03/09 at 7:26:36 PM

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:26:39
first post.yes:o


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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:27:47
will the stock benefits still work?


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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:30:27
If we lose money gambling would it affect LSC positively?

Edit 1: Also, the trade feature for shares has a little mistake. When we click Add shares it takes you to the screen showing you what shares you want to add to the trade. When we add the shares to the trade, it shows that the shares are of a different value to what we just saw in the list that shows the shares we have.

Both these total share values are different to what it shows on our portfolios. My guess is that you haven't taken decimals into account or you have taken decimals into account differently for the trade shares feature

Edit 2: Can we have a confirmation screen to sell shares? I hit sell shares to see if any fun thing shows up and it just said that my shares were put up on the market. Can we also have the option take our shares off the market after putting them up for sale?

Edited by: Lunchtime on 03/03/09 at 7:42:29 PM


Edited by: Lunchtime on 03/03/09 at 8:11:51 PM

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:38:25
How do you trade with other players then?

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:42:06
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How do you trade with other players then?


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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:43:23
normall trade and in the box you will see [Add Shares]

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:44:49
I have already had some brought off me ...how did they know i had put some up?

10 shares in LSC have been sold for $55.

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:45:31
thanks for the update
Mr. Chedburn
Did you get my cash i sent you?


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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:48:28
they dont know, someone else buys your shares basically from the stock.its annonymous aint it.

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:48:35
This is brilliant chedburn this is the first time I'm actaully making a profit lol

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:55:31
if I want to sell a stock I have long term benefits for, do I lose the benefit when the shares are listed or sold?

if it's based on when they're sold, can I only sell off a portion and keep the benefit? my MCS is worth 881mil, but I only need 350mil for the benefit... say I list it, and am able to sell off 400mil worth, can I then remove the shares, and keep the benefit?


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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 19:55:37
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There are also other changes to come, bank interest will be changed shortly to give us more control over the economy, company taxes may also be introduced.
Edited by: Chedburn on 03/03/09 at 7:26:36 PM


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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:11:45
interest changes? whoa hold it! its hard enough to make money unless you already have it. but if you cut the interest rates you will lose a lot of people. now putting caps on how much is invested. so like if you invest 100 million you get a lower rate than if you invest 20. that makes sense.

you want to 'control' the economy. but youre going to make it so rich players and older players have MASSIVE advantages over everyone else.

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:18:57
chedburn if you dont have a stock ticker can you still buy them ???if so thats so anying cause den ive wasted 20 pointslol

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:19:34
Okay i have a question.

What if i was to put my stocks up on the market at the current price, but then the prices were then raised, would my stocks on the market increase in price to?



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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:20:44
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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:31:50
sounds good

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:33:18
Great Update Ches (y)




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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:36:52
and what if you put your shares on the market and they dont sell and end up in the minus, alot of wasted time?

also what if one person cannot wait for his money to be sold on the market to vault it and had to leave the pc to come back tomorrow and the person to have been mugged?

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:38:59
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There are also other changes to come, bank interest will be changed shortly to give us more control over the economy, company taxes may also be introduced.


Wow, I'm sure once again I will get 4 merits back after having spent 28 on interests

You have a streak of $300,300
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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:42:52
in order to increase/decrease value and stick to the realism theme, will stocks split, fold, or half in size to take shares out of the hands or to increase the amount of shares in the market.

I had asked this in the suggestions topic a few weeks ago to find no answer, just curious...seems it would be valuable for couple reasons, will help regulate the price a little and will also allow for much more growth as the game grows...if you think the stock is growing to fast, the company can go 2 for 3 split taking a third of the shares out of the market

just curious

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:19:34
there is no point in having an index fund if you can't short it

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:22:38
Splits in real markets don't work like that. They are not to take shares out of the market. The are just stock repricing.
Example one share is worth $100 it splits 2 to 1 and you find yourself with double as many shares worth $50 each... simple repricing

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:32:30
I am going to test it out.

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:34:21
Change in Bank Interest?

I hope It wouldn't suck.

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:37:58
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There are also other changes to come, bank interest will be changed shortly to give us more control over the economy, company taxes may also be introduced.

Thank you.[/i]


i assume people who have spend merits for interest will get screwed like last time?

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they don't even know that they're dumb."
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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:37:59
Nice one mate! Hope it will work out well!

Thanks a bunch!

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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:41:29
the worst update in tcs life

i agree the faction update was horrible but this is (ill get forum banned if not feded if i tell you how bad it is ) shait

im telling you do not try stocks use the bank , safe money gain



Edited by: OG_-JOULS- on 04/03/09 at 12:40:02 PM


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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 21:58:29
I should be able to triple peoples cash now in 21days


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Posted on Tue Mar 03, 2009 22:03:40
how do u plan to put the money sent to the npc back into the economy

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