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After a lot of thought, discussion and design, weve finally decided upon the new stock changes. The overall biggest change will be on the way people sell and buy shares. This removes all forms of abuse and allows us to add a whole bunch of other stock trends and updates, which will be coming with the change. Ill start by giving a list of the changes.

- Users will have to trade shares with each other, not directly back to Torn City. There will however be NPCs who buy shares occasionally based on certain odds and stock traits.

- Users will be able to sell shares on a market. It will not be a viewable market, buying and selling will work the way it currently does, but transactions will be between users, not User > Torn City. All transactions will be anonymous.

- 6 hour stay-in rule will be removed, since there would be no need any more.

- Stocks can be changed to go up and down more, and have huge spikes. Each of the stocks will have more individual character.

- Some stocks will go up and down based on what happens in Torn City. For example, BAG (Big als Gun Shop Stock) will go up and down depending on how many people buy guns. TCHS will go up and down depending on how many people are in hospital over time. And many more.

- Stocks will be given forecasts. Forecasts will range from Very Good to Very poor which will be an indication of how much the stock will go up/down for the next few days / weeks. This may not always be correct.

- Shares will be placed in to the stock market via NPCs, these shares can then be purchased by users and traded amongst other users. There will only be a certain amount of shares available in each stock, but if some stocks become very popular, we can easily add more shares.

- A demand structure may be added. If shares are for sale for long periods of a certain stock (if no one wants to buy the stock) the price will gradually fall. If lots of people want to buy the stock but there arent any sellers, prices will gradually rise. Basically, user demand for stocks will affect stock price.

- Users may be able to purchase shares in the TCSE as a whole, not individual stocks. Buying and selling of this will be much quicker, but there wont be many large gains/falls. A good place for people to dabble in the stock market quickly and easily, and relatively safely. This is not confirmed yet.

- Users may be able to trade stock transactions with each other, for whatever prices they want.




Overall, a more fun system which will make the whole stock market more interesting to play. A huge step in realism opening up many new aspects. This will stop any huge gains (without losses) which will eventually cause TC a lot of issues.


This system will allow us more control of the stock market and how much money is being introduced in to the economy. Investors will have to be smart and witty to make money. There will be winners and losers. It will be up to big investors to research in to the trends, and think about what makes it rise and fall. Each stock will be different so all factors will have to be taken in to account for serious investors.

This whole system is much more like real life. If done correctly, this should be a pretty great change. Investors wont be jumping in and out so often, they will have to sit through the lows sometimes, but also be rewarded with bigger gains. The stock market will be for investments, not quick in/outs.

Investors sometimes may not be able to simply buy shares in the stock market. Instead, barter with users for their shares in the market, forums or in personal trades.

When a user places shares on the market, they will have to wait for a buyer. When the buyer comes, they enter how many shares they wish to buy of the stock. If your stock is of low quantity, or has been on the market longer than the other transactions for sale, it will be bought up first. If you sell shares of large quantity, buyers will buy amounts of your transaction. For example: if you sell 1,000 shares, and someone wants to buy 200 shares, you will be left with 800 shares and be given money for the 200 shares. Your 800 shares will remain for sale until someone wishes to purchase them.

The new system will be coded to be as simple as possible. Users should find it very easy to get into it, and to start having fun. A help tutorial guide will also be made available shortly after release.

To get the economy properly under control again, this is a colossal step and after a lot of thought, the best way to do it in my eyes.

Sorry if any of it was unclear.

Thank you.




Edited by: Chedburn on 18/02/09 at 5:06:35 AM

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 04:59:20
nice update ched

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:00:58
a) when will these changes happen

b) what happens when you're looking to sell a ton of shares? Will they sell in batches or must they sell all at once?

edit: thanks for answering (b) promptly


Edited by: Everglide on 18/02/09 at 5:08:19 AM

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:01:15
interesting...

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:01:20
very nice i hope to see this

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:01:20
when will this happen?

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:03:16
That should be interesting. You also made a mention that the bank might be changed. Any confirmation on that yet?

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:03:25
so will the long term perks still be the same?

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:11:37
This looks great! I love seeing large changes/added content in this game. I think I'll have to start using the stock market once my investment is due.

Hope everyone does well when trading

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:15:16
Well, the change is exactly same as the one you "suggested" yet wasn't completely accepted.

When will the be implemented?

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:17:38
Woot Yay for Chedburn

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:20:32
So, rather than money going to/ coming from a mystery bank, all transactions will now be between players? So, basically, an equal amount of money will be lost as is gained by the players, and in the end the few intelligent investors will make the profits, just not as much as now?

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:22:09
YES

Did you just announce the introduction of a system that will allow players to have lots of fun playing against each other, and only introduce more money into the system when you want it to??

Chedburn/ Admin, GOOD JOB!

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:23:17
That sounds like a scammers dream

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:23:31
wow..

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:29:16
sounds fun...:*

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:32:10
lol this is gonna be fun

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:32:44
Stocks have now been cheded

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:33:21

how is this going to effect the folks that have long term investments in stocks for the benefits


are we gona keep them or do we loose them

also the effect of big up's or downs crash a stock your long term invested in is not right ????



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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:39:58
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That sounds like a scammers dream

Everything's traded anonymously, directly through the stockmarket.
If anybody still manages to (somehow, god knows) get scammed, I commend them for their dedication to finding extremely complicated ways to do it.

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:42:22
Third thought: how often are share prices going to be updated? (I should hope real-time)

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:42:29
mmmmm.....

let's see....

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:45:01
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- Users will have to trade shares with each other, not directly back to Torn City. There will however be NPCs who buy shares occasionally based on certain odds and stock traits.




Edited by: Chedburn on 18/02/09 at 5:06:35 AM


not as I read it

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:57:30
cant wait for the change

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:58:22
hmm.. probably TC's stock revolution

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 05:59:34
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By Chedburn [1]
- Users will have to trade shares with each other, not directly back to Torn City. There will however be NPCs who buy shares occasionally based on certain odds and stock traits.

not as I read it

What I read was that it will be like this:
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[List x shares of x on Market at current value of $x]*
[Buy x shares of x from Market at current value of $x]*

*These shares are being bought and sold directly to/from other players

But that's just what I'm assuming from what I read.

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 06:09:01
nevermind....


Edited by: HudsonHawks on 18/02/09 at 6:15:53 AM

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 06:13:24
So when a HOF faction has a chain we all should buy TCHS stocks. NIce.

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 06:16:06
Revolution.



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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 06:22:31
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So when a HOF faction has a chain we all should buy TCHS stocks. NIce.


No buy TCHS just before a dirty bomb

I can see it now - leader_of_men (i think that was him) "oh no JFK has brought up TCHS who are they going to hit"







Edited by: GOLDWING_UK on 18/02/09 at 6:40:08 AM

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Posted on Wed Feb 18, 2009 06:26:31
Im just gonna have to give up on stocks

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