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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 02:27:26
Well, this is an inconvenience. Sadly the art of music won't be shared like I wanted to, at least the way I see it.

To all the mofos who think it's just all about "gangster crap" and "drum and basement" nonsense, then that shows how closeminded you are. Some profiles actually HAVE songs that actually have artists speaking on real issues, or something classical to max out to. Although I do have my hatred and dislikes among genre, you gotta respect what they like. Just because you can't find any meaning to it doesn't mean that no one else can (though some music doesn't have any meaning at all). I won't mention any names, but they know who this goes to.

Then again, you have these idiots to thank for posting 10 to 12 games at one time, all of them running at once. I have to admit, it does get annoying when I wanna take a look at a profile and my computer slows up like WTF because they got all these games that I don't care to play in their profile. Perhaps it could be another approach, like one thing on autoplay and the rest silent, or just one flash music box/ game/ sound on every profile. That's my opinion


Edited by: Off_Da_Chayn on 30/09/08 at 2:44:53 AM

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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 02:45:10
change the word shuffle to noautostart so it looks something like this...

/config/config_purple_noautostart.xml&mywidth=435&myheight=270&playlist

Thank you - I didn't have a chance to read through all 800+ posts either, my bad...



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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 03:18:31
Oh, and one more thing I wanna add.

This goes out to all those crying about how you want the autoplay to be off. Just like it's easy to go to the playlist and turn it off, or add that code in, it's just AS easy as simply pressing the mute button. All it takes is just moving your mouse over to the two lines, and pressing that left button on the mouse. Tada!
As long as they don't have 2 or 3 flashes running at the same time, it shouldn't be that hard.

Now, with that being said, which one do you think is easier: That what I just mentioned, OR you going through the trouble of making an entirely new code for yourself, find another pic because nine times out of ten the pic you had as the background picture isn't there anymore, then adding it on, or going to your profile then adding that code in? Once again, just my opinion. You can choose to leave it how it is, or try to convince me that my thought is wrong and go as far as to argue with me.

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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 03:19:05
THIS SITE IS VERY GOOD.

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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:56:54
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Well, this is an inconvenience. Sadly the art of music won't be shared like I wanted to, at least the way I see it.


It's not sharing. Why can't you people see that? It's forcing people to hear your music, not sharing. Sharing is what will happen now as people who actually wish to hear your "artistic experience" can do so by hitting the PLAY button. Those of us who have absolutely no interest in what you consider "art" are now free to view profiles without your music stepping on ours.

To all the mofos who think it's just all about "gangster crap" and "drum and basement" nonsense, then that shows how closeminded you are. Some profiles actually HAVE songs that actually have artists speaking on real issues, or something classical to max out to. Although I do have my hatred and dislikes among genre, you gotta respect what they like. Just because you can't find any meaning to it doesn't mean that no one else can (though some music doesn't have any meaning at all). I won't mention any names, but they know who this goes to.


The music being played is irrelevant. Usually it is junk music from people who have no taste, but I speak for many people when I say that we're not interested in hearing anyone's music, no matter what it is. So what's being forced on us is irrelevant; we don't want ANY music forced on us.

The only arguement for autoplay you guys seem to be coming up with is that it's some kind of artistic expression and that requiring that you turn off autoplay limits your freedom of speech.

The same arguement could be made for graffitti when it's sprayed on the overpass. Someone thought it was their artistic expression and that the world needed to see it and would appreciate it. In reality though, all that tag does is deface public property and force people to look at it in disgust and hope for the city to remove it asap. The lesson is the same in this case: forcing people to view or hear your "artistic expression" is not expression, and is just obnoxious.

Another analogy you might understand is if you're walking down the street, and someone forced a painting in your face and kept it there until you found a small button located somewhere on the frame. Their "art" is being forced onto you whether you wanted it or not, and doesn't go away until you find a hidden button. Hey, they're just expressing themselves right? No, it's obnoxious and annoying.

As for freedom of speech, that's laughable. Just as freedom of speech doesn't apply when the cops would tell you to turn down your stereo that's blaring out the window, it doesn't apply here. Both that instance, and autoplay in profiles disturb the general peace, and disturb a large portion of the TC community. What about my right to listen to my own music in peace without yours being played on top of it?

Just keep in mind Ched didn't randomly wake up and declare this new restriction. It's come after many months of complaints and threads from the entire community.

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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:22:16
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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:27:05
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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:35:29
hi this user is still havin auto-play music player on his profile --> 728840 (Prince_Delahoya)

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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 14:16:24

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It's not sharing. Why can't you people see that? It's forcing people to hear your music, not sharing. Sharing is what will happen now as people who actually wish to hear your "artistic experience" can do so by hitting the PLAY button. Those of us who have absolutely no interest in what you consider "art" are now free to view profiles without your music stepping on ours.



How is that force? When you visit a profile, then expect to see anything being put on there. Simple as that. You're making it sound like I'm putting a tool to your dome and telling you,"you better listen to some Immortal Technique". I believe there are a few ways to go to and do what you need to do WITHOUT even visiting the profile. Even better, just like I stated on that other post, just like it's easy to go back to playlist.com and set the setting to "autostart off", then it's just as easy as pressing those two small rectangles. I go to my profile EVERY time. My one flash NEVER affected my computer.

And that painting example is utterly ridiculous. Unless you need glasses, the button isn't hidden, and it's not that small either. One press, done. The graffitti thing is also ridiculous. So you're saying that I'm defacing my own domain if I put my own music on there? What sense does that make? You know what, let's take it to a level beyond this "freedom of speech" thing. Let's run back and state that last point. Know what to expect when you're in a certain neighborhood. If you're living in gang infested Detroit, expect writings on the wall. Otherwise, don't live there. Move somewhere else. If in a downtown area, expect to have some graffitti on the wall, not necessarily tagging. As long as no one complains about it, who cares about the graffitti. Yeah, we have some complaints, but once again, it should address the real issue where folks are putting up far too many flashes playing at once.

And since you wanna throw some examples, here's mine which seems fairly more accurate and realistic. It's like a myspace account. It's yours to do what ever you want with. If you don't wanna look at their gawdy wallpaper and listen to their obnoxious ear pollution, don't visit there. Don't come to that page again. Case closed. If you got an enemy you wanna fight, it should only take ONE visit, you're done. If you feel the need to fight 'em more than once, add them on to your friend's list or tag 'em. Done deal. I'll be happy to respect your opinion (after all, that's all it is and shall ever be), but I have to disagree with your opinion that you express



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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 16:17:00
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How is that force? When you visit a profile, then expect to see anything being put on there. Simple as that. You're making it sound like I'm putting a tool to your dome and telling you,"you better listen to some Immortal Technique". I believe there are a few ways to go to and do what you need to do WITHOUT even visiting the profile. Even better, just like I stated on that other post, just like it's easy to go back to playlist.com and set the setting to "autostart off", then it's just as easy as pressing those two small rectangles. I go to my profile EVERY time. My one flash NEVER affected my computer.
This has been answered in other posts...please read them or try a new arguement.

As long as no one complains about it, who cares about the graffitti. Yeah, we have some complaints, but once again, it should address the real issue where folks are putting up far too many flashes playing at once.
People did complain about autoplay...so I think I can say...we did

And since you wanna throw some examples, here's mine which seems fairly more accurate and realistic. It's like a myspace account. It's yours to do what ever you want with. If you don't wanna look at their gawdy wallpaper and listen to their obnoxious ear pollution, don't visit there. Don't come to that page again. Case closed.
tc can not, in any way, be compared to myspace...lmao. My space is intended to show off profiles and meet new people... that is the point of myspace. TC is a game...meeting new people is a bonus

you got an enemy you wanna fight, it should only take ONE visit, you're done. If you feel the need to fight 'em more than once, add them on to your friend's list or tag 'em. Done deal. I'll be happy to respect your opinion (after all, that's all it is and shall ever be), but I have to disagree with your opinion that you express
the same can be said here

just answer me why we should turn speakers down, turn off profiles so we can't listen even to our own music....tag everyone we wish to fight that has autoplay (means everyone that wants to not hear music HAS to buy a DP), or search through endless profile sigs to find the "off" button. Why should we have to do this...when simply turning off auto allows everyone to listen to what they choose. everyone would be on equal grounds...and have to turn on a playlist to hear it.




Edited by: Perdyfly on 30/09/08 at 4:21:19 PM

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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 16:51:15
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How is that force? When you visit a profile, then expect to see anything being put on there. Simple as that. You're making it sound like I'm putting a tool to your dome and telling you,"you better listen to some Immortal Technique".


That's exactly what you're doing. If I go to your profile to view your stats, or to attack you, or to look at your pictures, I am FORCED to hear 5-30 seconds (depending on how long it takes to find the player to hit stop) of Immortal Technique or whatever other song is playing that I never wanted to hear in the first place thanks to autoplay.
The difference between that, and "see anything being put on there" is that music is audible while pictures or flash games aren't. We mind the autoplaying music because it starts up on top of our personal music that we may have playing and disrupts us. And that's just one reason of why autoplay is disruptive. I could list at least 5 more but others have already done so many times over in this thread.


I believe there are a few ways to go to and do what you need to do WITHOUT even visiting the profile. Even better, just like I stated on that other post, just like it's easy to go back to playlist.com and set the setting to "autostart off", then it's just as easy as pressing those two small rectangles. I go to my profile EVERY time. My one flash NEVER affected my computer.


Of course, there are many ways to go about doing anything. But some are more convenient than others such as going to your profile to conduct any personal business one might have with you. Any other way is inconvenient, and why should the vast majority of TC players be inconvenienced by narcissists who want to create some kind of artistic exposition that no one is interested in. This is a web based video game, not an art show, or artistic website.

Again, it's not fair to expect the 85% of people who don't want to hear your and others music, to suffer the disruption that autoplay causes and search frantically for the stop button every single time it happens. It's much more fair if those who actually WANT to hear your music search for the player and hit play themselves. They get to hear your music, and you get to express yourself artistically (or whatever) to someone who is actually interested in your expression. Meanwhile the majority of us can look at your profile and listen to our own music without being disturbed. Everyone wins.

And that painting example is utterly ridiculous. Unless you need glasses, the button isn't hidden, and it's not that small either. One press, done.


More often than not in my personal experience, finding the player to hit the stop button can be an arduous and time consuming process. Many people have hundreds of graphics and/or other flash applications on their profiles with the music player set somewhere between graphic #67 and graphic #68. Not only that, but I've even seen profiles that have multiple music players.

Why in God's holy name should I have to frantically search for a button to stop something that I never wanted in the first place? My painting shoved in your face analogy works perfectly to illustrate that point, and the fact that you can't understand that shows how obtuse you are. Nobody should have something shoved into their ears that they never wanted to hear.

And since you wanna throw some examples, here's mine which seems fairly more accurate and realistic. It's like a myspace account. It's yours to do what ever you want with. If you don't wanna look at their gawdy wallpaper and listen to their obnoxious ear pollution, don't visit there. Don't come to that page again. Case closed.


Unfortunately, this doesn't work like Myspace where I only search for and visit my friends' profiles. I HAVE to visit your profile to conveniently conduct whatever business I need with you. Not only that, but many of us enjoy viewing strangers' profiles and some of the cool pictures/sigs they have posted and it'll be nice being able to go to profiles again without fear of bad music starting up. Believe me, I hate the Myspace music players too as I feel any kind of automatic media playing is intrusive and disruptive. Even ad companies on the web have the common decency to not play sound unless you hover over the ad or something.





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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 17:18:43
*lmao* I can't believe you guys, perdfly and pandajuice. While I agree wholeheartedly with you and others who expressed for one reason or another why it's a good thing that autoplay is to be turned off, I cannot help but question your sanity at when you go and continue arguments with people that are so asinine as to repeat their same lame argument time and time again.

It's a different person, but the same line. "Oh, I just wanna express my individuality." Great! I'm all for it! Don't jack my bandwidth while you do it! Don't cram your individuality down my throat! Give me the option of selecting which parts of your individuality I care to view/listen to.

Seriously, before anyone else posts a reply to this against autoplay, they need to GO BACK and read the WHOLE THREAD to see what the huge stink is about, especially the opposite opinion.

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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 17:33:26
Ummm how easy is this? TURN OFF YOUR SOUND if you dont wanna hear peoples music. If you dont know how to do this, send me a EMail and I'll show you how to. Seriously, how much $hit do you have on your pc to make it run terrible slow when you open the page? My laptop is 6 years old and I have no problem scrolling down and turning off music I dont wanna hear.

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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 19:14:43
Thank you. Thank you so much.

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Posted on Tue Sep 30, 2008 20:20:43
finaly you guys mad good stuf when ever wento some ones profile it make loud noice cool

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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 04:03:59
wtf!

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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 05:07:08
Y'all have a serious habit of quoting someone. You know what, I'll keep the quotes to a minimum. Hopefully our audience can understand what's going on by turning a page or two.

To my two fine people, Pandajuice, and our (not so) new guest, Perdyfly, y'all make good points. But once again, I disagree. The reason WHY I compare it to myspace is for one, it's in a myspace format. If they just wanted to have an attack or do business and keep it moving, then it could have been like ANY other RPGs that I've played and possibly you guys have played in the past. I'll say it once, and I'll say it again, it's like our own domain. Okay, I can glady respect that y'all are trying to do what ever; hoever, who really has the given thought of even peeping someone's profile. Only a few do. Not too many people are inquisitive enough, and if they don't have at least a FEEL of what that person may be about aside from their age, sex, maritial status, etc, then what's the point of having everything else in the profile? Exactly. Adressing to the one thing about friends being a bonus. Well, the key thing about TC is interaction. Most people can't just run on just playing the game alone. It's like Xbox live: What's the point of playing the games when you can't interact. I do respect that people need to do what they need to do, once again, but have you ever tried simply hitting the button [Attack], or [Trade] or whatever. Trust me. Your tasks will come a lot quicker if you do it that way instead. I would touch more on this, but at a later time.




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While I agree wholeheartedly with you and others who expressed for one reason or another why it's a good thing that autoplay is to be turned off, I cannot help but question your sanity at when you go and continue arguments with people that are so asinine as to repeat their same lame argument time and time again

They post the same arguments as everyone else on this thread. I and everyone else like me out on the thread counter what ever lame arguments that you have to throw at us. It doesn't matter what kind of 'lame' arguments you make, for as long as you are competent enough to supply that argument with feasible amount of evidence. Then again, from both sides of the spectrum, we supplied ourselves with a great amount of evidence (well, a few of us), aside from the blank thought that "it's art" or "Woot woot, about time TC did something right". I knew that it would come to this, and that why in the second post, I suggested to let things go the way they would, because we're NOT gonna reach to an assent. We're gonna keep arguing and arguing about the same points touched and from our eyes, see that our solution is better. But at the same time, you have to respect each other's arguments. You can't call someone asinine just because they don't share your views. In any case, this thread is a deadlock. There's really no right or wrong answer because in the end, it won't change anything.

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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 07:50:10
Idiot.


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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 08:26:41
Just remove the damn option of putting flash up in user profiles... problem solved - server would also be more efficient... You people make me want to go back to my computer programming days, sit down for a while, and figure out a way to infect everyone's computers when they look at a flash.


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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 08:28:36
But on a side not, why are the page views larger than 800x600 now - did Ched change the "resolution" after the server went down the other day or what? Trying to read these forums when they don't even fit on my screen from the left to the right is 10 times more annoying then turning some dork's flash of Souljah Boy off...


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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 08:30:20
Never mind, apparently it's just this thread - due to the excessive amounts of Quoting previous posts


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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 08:43:45
lol...it is because of the post ninja123 did...it just stretched the page.

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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 19:50:26
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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 20:32:58
cudnt agree with that anymore!

gets right on my nerves all the stupid sounds coming from difrent things on peoples profiles..aargh!

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Posted on Wed Oct 01, 2008 20:59:40
Owh Yeah !!

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Posted on Thu Oct 02, 2008 04:16:28
Lol, perdyfly. Now THAT I can agree with!

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Posted on Thu Oct 02, 2008 07:12:10
the game is great

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Posted on Thu Oct 02, 2008 07:34:37
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It's an issue of respect. People make profile signatures to share their own individual tastes and whatever with viewers. People who do not wish to see/hear it can disable them, still being able to check someone's life/level/company/faction/whatever. Having to find and start someone's music player in many cases detracts from it's overall artistic expression and makes the game less fun.


So you're arguing that the vast majority should be excluded from viewing profiles peacefully simply because very few people want complete artistic expression and can't be bothered hitting the play button?

You're missing the point that we want to see people's profiles and graphics. We just want the choice of having the music playing or not. If you can't be bothered hitting the Play button to hear the music you argue that you MUST hear to enjoy the game, then that's your problem. To expect us to do something you won't do (namely hitting the same button to stop something we never wanted in the first place) isn't fair and is a ridiculous arguement.


I am simply arguing that as a community of respectful gamers, we should be tolerant of the wishes of others. Some players put a lot of effort into their profile signature, and to remove any portion or aspect of it (excepting in cases of strongly distasteful material, but this discussion is limited to autoplay flash players) detract from or would render less emotional impact toward several wonderfully expressive and enjoyable ones that I have seen over my time in Torn City.

People who turn on profile signatures and then want to regulate their content are being selfish and disrespectful, point blank. You chose to enable them. Presumably this means you want to experience them, and that you express an interest in the individual whose profile you chose to view. .

You should know to change the preference when hearing people's music or videos or games would be disruptive or inconvenient. They were put there in the first place as our own personal space, and I want people to GTFO of mine.

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Posted on Thu Oct 02, 2008 18:40:36
thank god its all over no more ear pain

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Posted on Fri Oct 03, 2008 19:03:37
FInally away with annoyance haha

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