By Aequitas [342815]
Seriously people this is a warring game. If you dont want to go to war buy a company. A faction is meant to be for war between other factions to see who is the best. If you dont like it create your own online game where all factions are peaceful and everyone picks daisies. Its about time something was done to thwart the peaceful status. Respect for peace is a perfect trade. As i recall all great factions started out with nothing and all great players started as noobs. Everyone will get their time. Just dont expect it over night. Enough said.
This is wrong there are many gangs/factions that do not kill or war. For the most part many do not only the bad ass few get there people all shot up and killed. Or get there butts shot and tossed in jail. But the majority mind there own business.
And it is up to them if they war or remain peaceful. But in this stinking messed up game you are forced to go to war with those who will kick the living crap out of you and destroy the faction over time, that is unless you pay.
Besides the fact Ched made posts and factions are to be able to keep there faction peaceful if they wish. HE lied and it is very possible to lose your peaceful faction because you can’t make 250 respect by the time your days run out. So all the posts before this reconsider what you posted because plain and simple you are WRONG.
By Aequitas [342815]
Seriously people this is a warring game. If you dont want to go to war buy a company. A faction is meant to be for war between other factions to see who is the best. If you dont like it create your own online game where all factions are peaceful and everyone picks daisies. Its about time something was done to thwart the peaceful status. Respect for peace is a perfect trade. As i recall all great factions started out with nothing and all great players started as noobs. Everyone will get their time. Just dont expect it over night. Enough said.
This is wrong there are many gangs/factions that do not kill or war. For the most part many do not only the bad ass few get there people all shot up and killed. Or get there butts shot and tossed in jail. But the majority mind there own business.
And it is up to them if they war or remain peaceful. But in this stinking messed up game you are forced to go to war with those who will kick the living crap out of you and destroy the faction over time, that is unless you pay.
Besides the fact Ched made posts and factions are to be able to keep there faction peaceful if they wish. HE lied and it is very possible to lose your peaceful faction because you can’t make 250 respect by the time your days run out. So all the posts before this reconsider what you posted because plain and simple you are WRONG.
Edited by: Rock_candy on 27/06/08 at 8:26:23 PM
It is not wrong. It is an opinion. And opinions are not wrong. Ched tried an idea and it failed. Overtime factions would get boring. Peaceful status was a mistake to bring in. But now he is trying to compromise. The new compromises are completely fair. A faction is described as "a group or clique within a larger group, party, government, organization, or the like" In business sense a faction could be a group of people striving for a common goal such as big or small business etc. Since TC is built around the idea of doing crimes and training battle stats a faction in the TC context would be a group of players striving for the common goal of being the strongest. Some people who support peaceful status are missing the context of faction in TC.
By Aequitas [342815]
Seriously people this is a warring game. If you dont want to go to war buy a company. A faction is meant to be for war between other factions to see who is the best. If you dont like it create your own online game where all factions are peaceful and everyone picks daisies. Its about time something was done to thwart the peaceful status. Respect for peace is a perfect trade. As i recall all great factions started out with nothing and all great players started as noobs. Everyone will get their time. Just dont expect it over night. Enough said.
This is wrong there are many gangs/factions that do not kill or war. For the most part many do not only the bad ass few get there people all shot up and killed. Or get there butts shot and tossed in jail. But the majority mind there own business.
And it is up to them if they war or remain peaceful. But in this stinking messed up game you are forced to go to war with those who will kick the living crap out of you and destroy the faction over time, that is unless you pay.
Besides the fact Ched made posts and factions are to be able to keep there faction peaceful if they wish. HE lied and it is very possible to lose your peaceful faction because you can’t make 250 respect by the time your days run out. So all the posts before this reconsider what you posted because plain and simple you are WRONG.
Edited by: Rock_candy on 27/06/08 at 8:26:23 PM
It is not wrong. It is an opinion. And opinions are not wrong. Ched tried an idea and it failed. Overtime factions would get boring. Peaceful status was a mistake to bring in. But now he is trying to compromise. The new compromises are completely fair. A faction is described as "a group or clique within a larger group, party, government, organization, or the like" In business sense a faction could be a group of people striving for a common goal such as big or small business etc. Since TC is built around the idea of doing crimes and training battle stats a faction in the TC context would be a group of players striving for the common goal of being the strongest. Some people who support peaceful status are missing the context of faction in TC.
A group of persons forming a cohesive, usually contentious minority within a larger group.
For the purposes of what were talking about here it is not wrong to have peaceful factions. And in case you have not been looking around this game has BEEN boring LONG before peaceful factions were put in. In fact there was a LARGE faction graveyard that formed go take a look. The only reason there are new faction for the most part was peaceful factions. At least players could work together without the money suckers harassing all the little factions out there and then sending them to the faction graveyard as well.
Man you ppl against peaceful factions need to wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And what CHED did was not what he said he was going to do lets not leave that out.
The game has only been boring to those who wish not to fight. If there are only peaceful factions then there is no fighting. And you seem not to support your own slogan. Even though you may have bought you DP off the item market you are still supporting the purchase of new DP's. How can someone who is hypocritical be taken seriously? Anyway this will be my last response to this topic since it is too difficult to find someone unbiased as to the direction of factions. Everyone is too entrenched in their beliefs to listen to what this game is all about. I for one supported peaceful factions but soon found there is no future in having permanently peaceful factions. Let the game take this new course and see who will be here in the end.
1)less peaceful faction in existence = more money CHED can generate out of DP due to more extortions done by certain HOF's.
2)by having wars = control of inflation, all those extra money will be deleted by vicodin and morphines and meds, which eventually lead to buying more DP for the new players as points are the only way to make money for them
Think real hard why the new attack system updated?
1)control the inflation.... now he might say all stats are equally important and might sound like a good thing, but think again, now you need to buy armor = taking away more of the extra money. because with the old system, by the show of hands, how many of you actually have an armor on you when you attack?
2)addition of temp item, giving the noobs edge, but was it his real purpose? no more temp items used = more in game money taken out.
3)change of accuracy or addition thereof same result... now instead of having 300000 minigun sold in here now become SA80, who still buying minigun? might end up selling back to the shop for networth further reducing the extra income and control the inflation.
What have we learned from these? all he ever cared for was to make his own money, afterall this is his business, we can't blame him for what he is doing.... however, whether or not he come to realization that which mass in this TC community is really supporting him economically is up to him. may take years, may take seconds, may takes days. who reall knows?
So, why bother complaining when you know he ain't gonna do anything to dent his own wallet? so just do what you have to do, keep and get as much peaceful days as you can get then be MAN enough to DELETE it once the peaceful day is over or once HOF's declared on you then starts peaceful faction and before you do any OC, just upgrade the peaceful right out at the start so you will have 121 days with 125 respects then move on in that cycle.
you gonna say he said that and this before he introduced the peaceful status, blah blah blah... he should stick to his words and so on, but lets face it, is this the first time he deviated from his words? or didn't back up of what he planned?
“Beauty of LOVE is not getting everything from your loved one, but giving up everything in return for his or her happiness”
Why would the new attack system be to get more money out of the game when Armour costs are nothing compared to the cost of drugs which people that are addicted to will have a harder time in a fight?
By Aequitas [342815]
Seriously people this is a warring game. If you dont want to go to war buy a company. A faction is meant to be for war between other factions to see who is the best. If you dont like it create your own online game where all factions are peaceful and everyone picks daisies. Its about time something was done to thwart the peaceful status. Respect for peace is a perfect trade. As i recall all great factions started out with nothing and all great players started as noobs. Everyone will get their time. Just dont expect it over night. Enough said.
Wrong everyone will not get their time.
Things are being built to satisfy the top when they are done eating the cookie after it has been passed around the circle.
By Cynic-Inactive [206537]
Lets see the maths here.....................
Faction costs 3m to start up.
You get 90 days peace with it.
Bomb thread OC takes 24 hours so you can potentially do 90 of them.
Say an average of 3 respect gained and $50K from each one.
Say a 90% success rate (should be realistic for bomb thread)
that means in 90 days you will have 81 successes = 241 respect + 4m cash.
Already the faction has paid for itself.
Now, starting respect = 250 + 241 gained = 491 respect at the time you have to update your status.
So losing half means you end up with 245 respect and now 31 days.
Same principal 31 days = 28 successes = 1.4m made and 84 respect.
84 respect + 245 starting = 329 respect.
Means you have enough to do another 31 days
start with 165 rspect and 31 days again you get 1.4m made + 84 respect = 249 respect
in probably will be 250.
Which means you can do it again for another 31 days!
After this point you will have to war.
So lets see that would give you a total of 6 months peaceful status, + 8m cash made all for the price of 3m the inital cost of a faction.
Why are people bitching? Most factions here will do OC's higher then bomb threat so returns are better. If anything aggressive factions should bitch, that you all get 6 months peace and make 5mill out of it!
And after this you take 5mill out and delete the faction Nobody gets your respect Sounds like good bussiness plan to me
By Aequitas [342815]
The game has only been boring to those who wish not to fight. If there are only peaceful factions then there is no fighting. And you seem not to support your own slogan. Even though you may have bought you DP off the item market you are still supporting the purchase of new DP's. How can someone who is hypocritical be taken seriously? Anyway this will be my last response to this topic since it is too difficult to find someone unbiased as to the direction of factions. Everyone is too entrenched in their beliefs to listen to what this game is all about. I for one supported peaceful factions but soon found there is no future in having permanently peaceful factions. Let the game take this new course and see who will be here in the end.
LOL man stop talk to me you need to learn who the ROCK is before you go off about my DP's MUHAHAHAHAaaaaaaaaaaaa I will not run out of DP's for about three years. I have not clicked on a DP for at least a year now and I have a few to go before I ever will. Read what I wrote before you post in comments to me man.
'F' peaceful status. I don't understand what is up with people bitching about this update being useless. How it stood was Peaceful status was set to run out on a certain day. Now its extended indefinitely. Ched tosses you shook bastards a bone and you still cry that it ain't enough.
f**k, I want to kill you all !
By GZUS [18690]
'F' peaceful status. I don't understand what is up with people bitching about this update being useless. How it stood was Peaceful status was set to run out on a certain day. Now its extended indefinitely. Ched tosses you shook bastards a bone and you still cry that it ain't enough.
f**k, I want to kill you all !
Wah wah you just want more and more.
You feel threatened that other players of a GAME will catch up to you, or even surpass you.
Well, calm down. You and I both know Ched runs things in your favor. You are just mad that he gave us something to shut us up, even though it changes nothing and still favors you.
Just as a reminder, you got: Free merits for days in faction (BC you started first) that now one else will be able to achieve any longer, Free faction Bonuses, like 5% added to trains etc (Oh there is so much more). All of these things are literally IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYONE ELSE TO GET (EVER).
So calm down. You are just getting paranoid that your massive advantage will be taken down a notch, when it is only increasing more and faster.
Also, I believe you just expressed a desire to murder over a video game. What, are you going to become a serial killer who targets tc players?
If so then you are morbidly psychotic, and you just may need to commit yourself for our safety.
By GZUS [18690]
'F' peaceful status. I don't understand what is up with people bitching about this update being useless. How it stood was Peaceful status was set to run out on a certain day. Now its extended indefinitely. Ched tosses you shook bastards a bone and you still cry that it ain't enough.
f**k, I want to kill you all !
Wah wah you just want more and more.
You feel threatened that other players of a GAME will catch up to you, or even surpass you.
Well, calm down. You and I both know Ched runs things in your favor. You are just mad that he gave us something to shut us up, even though it changes nothing and still favors you.
Just as a reminder, you got: Free merits for days in faction (BC you started first) that now one else will be able to achieve any longer, Free faction Bonuses, like 5% added to trains etc (Oh there is so much more). All of these things are literally IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYONE ELSE TO GET (EVER).
So calm down. You are just getting paranoid that your massive advantage will be taken down a notch, when it is only increasing more and faster.
Also, I believe you just expressed a desire to murder over a video game. What, are you going to become a serial killer who targets tc players?
If so then you are morbidly psychotic, and you just may need to commit yourself for our safety.
Edited by: Esper on 28/06/08 at 4:47:46 AM
Edited by: Esper on 28/06/08 at 4:48:46 AM
Kill = Chain. Don't take things so literal on Torn City you dumb shit
Your entire post = bleh. I'm done on this subject. It just goes in circles.
P.S. You can't surpass me whilst in a peaceful faction.... Unless your talking stat wise. At any rate, it's relative to the reasons why we play the game individually . I play to war, you play to stat gain.
One day your faction finna get an ass whoop'n!
Let me try and make it as clear and as understanding for everybody so that all doubts disappear
I despise Baalsagoth and all other Hof Leaders who agree to all of this b/s.
Have u guys ever played Monopoly?
where u keep playing until some wise guys have totally owned the table...
and u keep rolling the damn dice hoping u won't land on their property..
The truth of the matter is that the game is already lost.... cuz eventually u will land on their hotels and will have to declare bankrupcy, cuz that's them having fun not you....
That is exactly what this once Great Game has become....
HOF and players that have played for over 3 years control the whole monopoly Table.. Their factions are the best, their levels are the greatest, their ranks, their islands , everything....
They own the game...
And who else, but "honest citizens that have worked hard for the l;ast 3 eyars so they could finnally enjoy it now...
But it is not enjoyable if they have noone to play with....
That is where we newbs come in...
We have to keep on rolling the dice...
That's what they give us false hopes...
This is just a lame excuse..... to make them "justified in killing us when they see us on aggresive mode...
Because let's face it...
Considering u have 500 respect....
In 4 months time u will have to turn aggresive anyways...
There is absolutelly no way out.... So are u man enough to stand up to the HOF and to this crooked corrupt staff that has been taking your money for years using pretexts after pretexts....
or are u a coward to try and survive another 4 months and for what???
they come to me with lame statements saying that I can still catch up if I use lots of Xanax...
The new attacking system makes it impossible for anyone under drugs to even win.
we Cannot ever catch up to 3 years of hard work... no matter what we do...
peaceful status would have at least given us the option of staying out of the Hof way...
but how can a 3 year old army stand on a battlefield with 100 days newbs?
How can u give equal rights to them Chedburn when u know it that they are not even close to beeing equals?
and while we work hard paying hundreds of dps for money so we could survive, our training still doesn't count to the great major trainig that Hof members are having through their private Islands...
So LET"S FACE IT CHEDBURN
The Game is Lost....
The Winners have already been established, for crying out loud how much more do u want to have your fun .. Have you not had enough yet...?
U should very well consider the great out of balance between the two worlds... old and new players....
I think all players withing 300 days old should have unlimited energy refils...
At least that way there still is a chance for them to "catch up or stand and fight.... like u keep shoving dirt in our faces...
You are all a shame and I am ashamed to have even bothered playing this game....
AS much as I have loved it, i get frustrated everyday only seeing the stupid decisions that the poor Management is making...
Are you not rich enough Chedburn?
u still want more money from people?
Beware of every update people...
behind every update there is an evil plan for them to make more money off of you...
in other words yeah...
u can have your peace but u will have to donate and donate and donate so u could buy merrits and merrits and merrits
otherwise u are doomed and we rule u... Muahahaha....
By GZUS [18690]
'F' peaceful status. I don't understand what is up with people bitching about this update being useless. How it stood was Peaceful status was set to run out on a certain day. Now its extended indefinitely. Ched tosses you shook bastards a bone and you still cry that it ain't enough.
f**k, I want to kill you all !
Wah wah you just want more and more.
You feel threatened that other players of a GAME will catch up to you, or even surpass you.
Well, calm down. You and I both know Ched runs things in your favor. You are just mad that he gave us something to shut us up, even though it changes nothing and still favors you.
Just as a reminder, you got: Free merits for days in faction (BC you started first) that now one else will be able to achieve any longer, Free faction Bonuses, like 5% added to trains etc (Oh there is so much more). All of these things are literally IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYONE ELSE TO GET (EVER).
So calm down. You are just getting paranoid that your massive advantage will be taken down a notch, when it is only increasing more and faster.
Also, I believe you just expressed a desire to murder over a video game. What, are you going to become a serial killer who targets tc players?
If so then you are morbidly psychotic, and you just may need to commit yourself for our safety.
Edited by: Esper on 28/06/08 at 4:47:46 AM
Edited by: Esper on 28/06/08 at 4:48:46 AM
Kill = Chain. Don't take things so literal on Torn City you dumb shit
Your entire post = bleh. I'm done on this subject. It just goes in circles.
P.S. You can't surpass me whilst in a peaceful faction.... Unless your talking stat wise. At any rate, it's relative to the reasons why we play the game individually . I play to war, you play to stat gain.
One day your faction finna get an ass whoop'n!
:@
Thats what I was saying dummy.
YOU are the one who is nervous that someone like me can surpass you.
I was saying that even though that was already an impossibility, Ched went and piled more on top to help widen the already infinite void.
If you aren't following, then I will provide an example.
You probably get my entire stats in one train. Every time you train, you get about 10 more the next time you train. Then, just to slap us all in the face, Ched gave you an extra 5% for each train. Those of us who started later than you will never get to use that because no matter what we do, we will never be strong enough to join a faction that can keep that special without being killed in two days.
For the most part, Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE in this game, only care about themselves. But another fact is that 500,000 selfish assholes outnumbers 250 selfish assholes 2000:1.
Sure the stat formula is uneven, but it kept things interesting (Regulate who factions can war and it just might work) but that does not justify soloing faction related merits or specials to 250 jerks when 500,000 jerks can't get any.
By the way, thats $1250 verses 2.5 million dollars.
Vigor you just had to add that BS suck up to the end of your post. Grow some balls and speak the truth without your ass kissing.
Like I said, they can whine all they want, but $5 vs. $10,000 isn't even a contest. The monopoly will either be eaten, or this game will die.
Of course no one will beleive it untill it actually happens.
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then starts peaceful faction and before you do any OC, just upgrade the peaceful right out at the start so you will have 121 days with 125 respects
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Sounds like good bussiness plan to me
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