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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:14:30
is this thread gonna get wiped if there are too many people disagreein like luekybears was

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:14:43
great stuff - totally agree with this - but as mentioned many times now - still nervous that the changes made to make it possible for non-elitist factions to exist will be the wrong ones, based on what elitist players think will be good and interesting solutions, also for non-elitist players - so they will want to be in factions.

Otherwise this new changes will be just a very short obstacle for total-faction-death.

Ched is in his post talking about some of the necessary changes - but it isn't enough changes to make enough people wanting to be in a new faction trying to survive against HoF factions.

But I hope Ched and company proves my fears wrong.

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:14:50
800 faction x 2.5mil = 2bil

Where can I file for my refund?

And that total is for NON upgraded faction, I think that most of us spent twice that much!


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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:14:55
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who would happy with this? really doubt it would benefits low lvs or who just wanna stay away from war!


Then they shouldn't be in a faction: that's what companies are for.


We only joined a faction because we were told, by you, that our factions would be able to stay "Peaceful". YOU told us that we could go into a faction a stay away from war. Now YOU tell us this bogus crap?

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:15:09
y dont you make it as they have 2 b within 200 of your factio respect so people with 200 respect cant be declared on by people with 1k of respect

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:15:20
At least this is what it would expected...

Checkout my bazaar people! xD

http://www.torn.com/#/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=10637932 is my thread about bazaars.
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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:16:26
ok shoot me for saying this, but there should be a way for a faction to "buy" peaceful from the game.

Like paying a protection fee but to TC not a Faction and this would allow you to purchase your protected status for another month for a fee based on your membership # for the last month . But since this is a TC protection fee no one could war you, not just current protection type where you pay so much and might get out of a few wars.

Make the fee cheaper if you are currently in peaceful status and cost most with more recent wars so the cost would high enough to be prohibitive to a HOF faction to buy peaceful and Of course not purchasable if there is a current active war running .

You decide not to pay your TC fee then you drop to agressive or whatever status will be next on the ladder and will be attackable. this should keep a decent amount of fresh targets for all to war. But also take more cash out of the TC economy and give peacefuls a chance to stay peaceful.

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:16:57
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who would happy with this? really doubt it would benefits low lvs or who just wanna stay away from war!


Then they shouldn't be in a faction: that's what companies are for.



Well what the hell are lower levels that dont have the 100k+ stats to be in a descent faction suppsed o do in TC to have fun
? there should be levels of wars based on faction respect... factions like DV wit 50k respect shouldnt be able to war people below 30k respect... make it fair


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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:17:08
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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:17:42
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See if that had been posted instead of what LeukyBear put, then there would be less pissed off people now!!!

Though still needs to add an attack restrictiob to stop a faction on 50k from attacking one on 500. Set a minimium limit of some form such as 50% below your respect you can't declare




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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:17:59
By Maj_Winters [146405]
800 faction x 2.5mil = 2bil

Where can I file for my refund?

And that total is for NON upgraded faction, I think that most of us spent twice that much!


Ah shut up and quit your complaining! TC has had WAR in itself in the beginning and just because some noobs start to cry about them being hosped all the way, it HAS to be changed? If you can't fight a decent war vs someone, then don't own a faction! Think smart, if you get declared on by a bigger faction, you have to organise some chains yourself, get some more respect in and try to give that faction a hard time!

It's a game! Make it fun!


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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:19:14
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By Maj_Winters [146405]
800 faction x 2.5mil = 2bil

Where can I file for my refund?

And that total is for NON upgraded faction, I think that most of us spent twice that much!


Ah shut up and quit your complaining! TC has had WAR in itself in the beginning and just because some noobs start to cry about them being hosped all the way, it HAS to be changed? If you can't fight a decent war vs someone, then don't own a faction! Think smart, if you get declared on by a bigger faction, you have to organise some chains yourself, get some more respect in and try to give that faction a hard time!

It's a game! Make it fun!




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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:19:28
By Maj_Winters [146405]
800 faction x 2.5mil = 2bil

Where can I file for my refund?

And that total is for NON upgraded faction, I think that most of us spent twice that much!


Jeez get over it, why have the faction sig, attack attack attack, when what you really want to do is sit around and cuddle with your faction members



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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:19:31
Good. Having all peaceful factions completely defeats the point of factions.

Maybe I sound hypicritical being in a peaceful faction, but it is impossible keep a non HOF warring faction alive just now.

I look forward for the end of these three months.

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:20:36
well ppl will just start being factionless again...leaving only top few and a couple more mid class factions warring for respect. from they way things are i foresee that this is just back to square one


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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:20:37
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By AzureKenzo [302973]
who would happy with this? really doubt it would benefits low lvs or who just wanna stay away from war!


Then they shouldn't be in a faction: that's what companies are for.


True

If low levels dont want war, they shud just stay out of a faction

No offence to low lvls

Stand for something or you will fall for everything!

Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down and win by experience!
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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:20:53
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See if that had been posted instead of what LeukyBear put, then there would be less pissed off people now!!!

Though still needs to add an attack restrictiob to stop a faction on 50k from attacking one on 500. Set a minimium limit of some form such as 50% below your respect you can't declare




agree.



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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:21:49
Sounds like a good idea. Lets get some wars going!

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:22:13
They could never put a limit on who you can war because there wouldn't be enough targets for the precious HOF factions.

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:24:26
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800 faction x 2.5mil = 2bil

Where can I file for my refund?

And that total is for NON upgraded faction, I think that most of us spent twice that much!



Jeez get over it, why have the faction sig, attack attack attack, when what you really want to do is sit around and cuddle with your faction members



I have been at war many times, and as our main page says "We are training for the wars of tomorrow", BUT I would like to decide when that happens!


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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:24:29
I'm sure the reason that only 4 out of 800 factions we're aggressive was because previously anyone that wanted a waring faction would have made one, the aggressive status wasnt anything new it was the peaceful status that caused the new factions.

Also saying that everyone will be peaceful because all the wars are finished etc isn't very realistic, your assuming that theirs some kind of clear leader in the factions and that they are going to white wash everyone else? common get serious.

Personally used to stuff like this, update adds feature, next update takes it away.

Whens the update we're we remove crimes, jobs & casino? after all the only content that sticks in TC is training, attacking and warring.

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:24:32
It looks faction's are going to be only for lvl's 50+, because other's will be destroyed in few days...[/size]





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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:25:01
meaningful play? sadly the updates only benefit the already strong and widen the gap significantly. i appreciate that you will over the next 3 months perhaps bring out new updates that help the smaller faction. but take a step back and look at this.

imagine that there are only two factions in TC. "The Strong" and "The weak" they where fighting it out, the updates came out and "the strong" got stronger and "the weak" stayed weak and had a harder time that usual.

all that is lacking here is balance, the latest updates help the already strong, and the promise of some balance later in the year, might be too late for some of us.



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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:25:19
After 90 days I will be deleting my faction, that's better than being in the hospital every day till it dies.

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:26:32
I'm all for warring, as this is a war based game..

But what are the noobs meant to do??? the new guys who are below level 10? In terms of progression of the game, we need some sort of way that noobs can enjoy the game and stay interested

Noobs being together in training factions is good for them ,they get info and help and all that.

Its fine for the more experiences players to say everyone is a fair target for factions everyone should be warring, but something has to be in place to protect the noobs...

plus if there busy training in a faction they might spend less time trying to scam high levels saying with RPG'S they don't have to sell lol

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:28:12
To give factions a chance to having some warring, rather than just being bullied, make it like nota's idea, so the faction leaders have to agree to war in the first place. It would have been fine if we were told about this in the first place, before we created a peaceful faction.

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:28:26
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After 90 days I will be deleting my faction, that's better than being in the hospital every day till it dies.


Me too.


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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:28:28
So why not stop peaceful factions from doing OC's or at least gaining respect for doing them. I can see why you've changed things but some people just want to be in a faction faction where they can share a forum, armoury and meds etc with their friends. Doesn't the fact that so many factions chose to be peaceful tell you something?

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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:28:45
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By Maj_Winters [146405]
800 faction x 2.5mil = 2bil

Where can I file for my refund?

And that total is for NON upgraded faction, I think that most of us spent twice that much!



Jeez get over it, why have the faction sig, attack attack attack, when what you really want to do is sit around and cuddle with your faction members



I have been at war many times, and as our main page says "We are training for the wars of tomorrow", BUT I would like to decide when that happens!


You could demonstrate on the streets, flower power and all that, or you could just get on with it, and get over it



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Posted on Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:28:55
Making difference between 1000 days old lvl 50 and 100 days old lvl 10 isn't fair[/size]


Edited by: Hydr0 on 09/03/08 at 12:31:25 PM

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