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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:02:34
By Nickzie [344869]
LOL this was done on purpose ( The Peaceful Faction trick), giving people like us, false sense of security, so we can all buy factions.....then shoving this update in our faces LOL

so now, HOF faction could have 'Open season' again.....YIPPY for them


i bet people in HT and HOF factions are polishing thier rifles, waiting for the 90day buffer to Harvest Respect from new factions, so they can get new faction specials


lol


Well with the last update it cost so much respect to update their factions they need to get it back .....

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:03:04
I read a reply to this, stating that 90% of the cash flow in here comes from the last 10% who signed up? Hmmmmm......I get begging letters from the last 10% who signed up on a daily basis.....lol. He said do the math......I question his.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:09:07
I'd much rather be in a peaceful faction, but I see where Ched's coming from.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:13:03
Not to cause a paranoid feeling...but IF we are to follow the path of Cheds thought. Then the next logical step would be that factions could attack companies. I mean play this out as if in real life. Gangs not only effect what goes on in their neighborhood but also the business's that reside there too. It is my prediction that when the faction change becomes a bust and most people are just in companies that the companies will become the next target...just seems logical to me...

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:15:25
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Not to cause a paranoid feeling...but IF we are to follow the path of Cheds thought. Then the next logical step would be that factions could attack companies. I mean play this out as if in real life. Gangs not only effect what goes on in their neighborhood but also the business's that reside there too. It is my prediction that when the faction change becomes a bust and most people are just in companies that the companies will become the next target...just seems logical to me...



great idea. i would love to chain some of those cruise liners down to zero



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:20:16
By HT-Supermikk [108922]
Reading these posts make me think.

Why are you guys training at all, when you dont want to use your battle skills?

"We want the faction som we can talk with eachother"

You got irc, facebook and MSN for that.

They're here for the same reason you and I are, everybody enjoys the war part of the game, but you and the other HOF factions make it impossible for them to actually play the game, the peacuful factions allow them room to play the game some without being bullied by the likes of you, all these people really loved this game, and even though you took the fun out of it for them, something was better than nothing, now that is getting taken away too. If you guys really arent bullying all these people, then why does it matter if they have peaceful status or not, if you didnt need people to pick on it wouldnt matter to you


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:24:24
I haven't been playing long but there has been quite afew updates since i have. This is a great idea the best yet! Thanks Ched

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:36:46
there should be a system where a faction with 10000 respect cannot attack a faction with say only 250 respect

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:42:16
its hard to get people to protect you for free and its hard to get lvel15+ to join my faction

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:46:55
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there should be a system where a faction with 10000 respect cannot attack a faction with say only 250 respect

Not a bad idea.. Staff , are you listening ?
o_O

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:54:12
Straight from Cheddar Bob's mouth - We wanted to give factions the choice⦠To be peaceful or aggressive, this however did not work. With 800 factions created, 4 of those chose to be aggressive.


Uh.... Hello stupid... If 4 out of 804 want to remain peaceful, doesn't this speak for itself?



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:57:57
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Straight from Cheddar Bob's mouth - We wanted to give factions the choice⦠To be peaceful or aggressive, this however did not work. With 800 factions created, 4 of those chose to be aggressive.


Uh.... Hello stupid... If 4 out of 804 want to remain peaceful, doesn't this speak for itself?


Yes..you would think it would be like the people have spoken...but see then again...we dont matter...the upper elites that sit around and piss and moan to ched day in and day out matter. I mean as a boss myself when I have whinney emplyee's I am inclined to listen to their whines..and take action..otherwise I would go insane...

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:58:50
I think it would be better if u just didn't get any respect at all if you attack someone like 20 levels less than u. Because beating up someone that much weaker than u makes u hated and therefore you would lose respect if anything.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:59:13
ALL THIS IS SO THAT HOF FACTIONS CAM GET BETTER,I BET THEY WERE ALL COMPLANING SO HE AGREED


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:03:07
thanke you

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:03:09
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there should be a system where a faction with 10000 respect cannot attack a faction with say only 250 respect

Not a bad idea.. Staff , are you listening ?
o_O




No they are not listening because they are in one of the HOF fations and they are sitting back counting days. After all they have to make up for that bomb that took that 10k respect from them somehow. Why bother with the challenge of attacking the people that bombed them when they can just chain 796 peacefull factions in 90 days. lets see them chain 796 factions with one lvl 1 in each of them see how long they keep you on there war base if there lowest lvl is a lvl 33 and the only options for chaining is a lvl 1 keeping your faction alive while you train your stats for a year.


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:04:29
By Druid [195620]
How about this:

Make more NPCS (npcs will be members of different factions), they will act as real peoples..
weak, medium and very strong npcs..
Then, peoples can war those NPCS take respect from them.

and there will be agressive and peaceful factions.. newbies and hof wont complain anymore


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:08:34
The whole issue isn't about whether factions should be peaceful or not. Get rid of the peaceful factions, I could care less. The issue is plain and simple. People bought factions based on being told they could remain peaceful until they declared war on someone. Everyone should have a chance to get their money back. If this is done, this debate will be over.

To all of you anti-peace factions....Do you guys think they should have a chance to get their money back or should ched just say "screw 'em, it's my game" I know your opinion on peaceful factions, I would just like to hear your opinion on whether or not you think they/we got screwed?



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ched, this still dosent change the fact that people bought factions bc of the update......got scamed out of there money...... bottom line ........people bought factions for there paceful status..... and these people got scamed out of there money because you have yet made anther change that totaly contradicts the fact of why people bought into factions..... ched you have failed to fix this problem .......

Suggestion

there should be some kinda reimbursement like 70% of what they paied for the faction, because of the false security you have given all the people buying into factions.....given that people are goin to make some money from the ocs 70% would be a fair amount.....







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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:10:05
like i sed there should be specific brackets of respect
like a faction can only attack a faction with less respect if there respect ids within 100 or something, but i f a faction with 100 respect declares on a faction with 1000 its there fault...

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:14:29
Why not institutionalize protection? Set protection fees. Peaceful factions pay. Warlike factions get paid. Two sides of a transaction. It gives the warlike factions a reason to fight. If you don't pay you lose the status and get attacked. Not like 50M, more like 500k month.

Contrary to what has been argued before there are *relatively* peaceful OC orgs. There ARE gangs that have little or no street rep but make $$$. In the real world the most obvious gangs get busted quickest.

The overwhelmingly negative reaction I've been reading shouldn't just be ignored.



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:20:29
use are all said get a life i only made a tron city account to diss u low lifes

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:20:43
By HT-Supermikk [108922]


You mean like removing respect?

Damn fine idea... Wars were so much fun back then...

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I dont know if you are trying to be sarcastic or what, but wars were much more fun back then. I remember when having 4-5 factions in warbase was more than most factions could handle.

These days 50 factions in warbase aint enought for more than 10 chainers, because there is one 1-2 guys in every faction.


Fun it may be for hof , its hof that changed the way factions would like to be, its hof that reduced faction members down to one or 2 members, its hof that destroyed many 100`s of factions,blame yourselves guys for this, now you complain that there are not enough targets, thats down to you hof, yes its a game about wars/crimes ect, it may be fun for hof to contiue to hosp lower factions, yet there are things that we like doing to, like crimes ,like gym training, like going to the city in the hope of finding something or even down to playing poker, cant do these on a white screen, hardley fun is it?



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:21:49
Well thats why its a game, Ched cant make up his mind, in RL he would have been fired or worse too allow such non sence, just have too roll with it, and hope the rest the game does not go down the tubes like this faction crap is and has.

Same strat, just lvl and get ur stats up, forget playing the game till you get high enough, oh wait its turning out like some other games out there, hmmm go figer. Thxs Ched good job heh

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:22:14
We all know this is because HOF faction complained

also alot of staff are in HOF factions

Maybe staff shouldnt be allowed to get involved

in faction and stick to sorting out what the people

of torn city would like.

Staff and HOF factions moan they get their way.

It just lambs being lead to the slaughter house again

after we were told we could be peaceful if we wanted

Let all HOF factions hit each other all the time and let them see

how it feels to come online only to be hospitalised again.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:26:00
Jeez...a protection plan...LOL Like you can get from Allstate insurance...ok...protection plans suck and well from a manage game side of it make no sense. I guess basically it is what it is. No way we can change it. A refund for the factions bought under the idea that there was to be peaceful faction would be nice...but i wont hold my breath. No worries...3 months to earn a little extra cash and then *poof* bye bye faction. I guess next time I will give the whole faction update thing a "honeymoon" waiting period to see if it is gonna change..and THEN make a move one way or the other....funny how this debate mirriors real life...the minority dictates to the majority...sad

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:26:29
By PrOnE2DiE [692571]
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there should be a system where a faction with 10000 respect cannot attack a faction with say only 250 respect

Not a bad idea.. Staff , are you listening ?
o_O




No they are not listening because they are in one of the HOF fations and they are sitting back counting days. After all they have to make up for that bomb that took that 10k respect from them somehow. Why bother with the challenge of attacking the people that bombed them when they can just chain 796 peacefull factions in 90 days. lets see them chain 796 factions with one lvl 1 in each of them see how long they keep you on there war base if there lowest lvl is a lvl 33 and the only options for chaining is a lvl 1 keeping your faction alive while you train your stats for a year.


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I love this .... NOT NOW NOT EVER will you stand up to the hall of shame players if you get 100 per train you are lucky you need to keep in mind they get 1000k plus per train they can train once a week and still never worry about yous hitting them lmfao

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:44:24
i say they put real stuff we want to see on tc, NOT "what is your age?"

if maby they put stuff like "should we put in peaceful stats then take them away after everyone has a faction" would be a good idea.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:51:44
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Why not institutionalize protection? Set protection fees. Peaceful factions pay. Warlike factions get paid. Two sides of a transaction.


Hey play the game for 100 days, you will then realise that is exactly what has been happening, and will be happening again.

It gives the warlike factions a reason to fight. If you don't pay you lose the status and get attacked. Not like 50M, more like 500k month.


LMAO! "It gives the warlike factions a reason to fight." You should realise that 500k is nothing for factions like HT & DV, they are filthy rich, living in private islands that cost $500 million, they spend 500k on only one energy refill alone! Retard!!

Reason for war: They're warring for respect, to create longest chain, and FOR FUN!!!! cash is nothing more than a bonus for them... They extort noobs, only noobs, they give powerful factions free surrenders. ....Extorting noobs is clearly unfair, and even though Ched knows this, he lets it happen.


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 19:57:56
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Why not institutionalize protection? Set protection fees. Peaceful factions pay. Warlike factions get paid. Two sides of a transaction.


Hey play the game for 100 days, you will then realise that is exactly what has been happening, and will be happening again.

It gives the warlike factions a reason to fight. If you don't pay you lose the status and get attacked. Not like 50M, more like 500k month.


LMAO! "It gives the warlike factions a reason to fight." You should realise that 500k is nothing for factions like HT & DV, they are filthy rich, living in private islands that cost $500 million, they spend 500k on only one energy refill alone! Retard!!

Reason for war: They're warring for respect, to create longest chain, and FOR FUN!!!! cash is nothing more than a bonus for them... They extort noobs, only noobs, they give powerful factions free surrenders. ....Extorting noobs is clearly unfair, and even though Ched knows this, he lets it happen.


thank you. drmarks going on about how hard they had it because he had people 15lvs higher. he dosent see that we, the newbs, have people an odd 40 lvs higher than us. if i see the white screen at least once a day for 5 days after the change, marks going to feel like an idiot. this will be fun to watch.


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 20:03:15
get back to the issue put our peaceful factions back the way they were. Cheating by an owner of a game is not allowed.

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