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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:59:54
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Why dont all the peaceful factions form an alliance and declare 'peaceful wars' on 50 other peaceful factions, so no attacking, no respect loss and no other bigger factions can then declare war on them......in other words keep your war base full of friends!!! 
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:00:16
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yeah, the situation is absolute crap. So we get 90 days to build a respect buffer. What a joke! I think the best we can do in the 90 days is to build up around 400 respect. Gee, how far is that going to get us? A one extra chaining beat down? I don’t know that they've really done a “bait and switch” so much as a “cave in” because the warring factions have nobody to war and complained the dev’s ears off. Those of us who don’t want to war are screwed because of the simple chaos involved. The bottom line is that if a faction declares war on us we have to pay and pay and pay or loose the faction and the money it took to buy it. The other option being we fly out of town. This means we pay for a DP with real money and don’t use it cause we can’t play the game to its fullest extent. We (factions) that are peaceful pay our DP fee's too and I think we need to start exercising our monetary rights. For the most part, it might mean telling the devs/Ched to take this game and stick it.
I’ve sent several posts complaining that the warring should involve battle ground arena’s. Only people within a 100 day and 6 level difference should be allowed to fight each other. This would narrow the playing field down to just stats and keep someone who’s a 1020 day old level 38 from attacking a 250 day old level 25. Also, the differences should become smaller as levels and age go up. I this something to this effect would give lower factions a better chance to survive and fight vs. pay.
One other idea! Since its “TORN City” why don’t they give players a choice to be either good or bad. Instead of us all being criminals and doing crimes, why cant we be upstanding citizens or cops/undercover and do good deeds. Then those that are on opposite sides can fight each other in the good vs. evil battle.
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:00:19
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By HT-Supermikk [108922]
You think we like warring weaker factions? You think i actually want to hosp a level 10?
It is because we are tired of this we want some more decent factions in TC.
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You will never get them as long as you obliterate the smaller factions. You can't destroy every small faction out there and wonder why there aren't any more decent ones to be had. This situation is the same as killing off all the deer in the forest, including the fawns. Once they're all dead, there will be no more strapping bucks for you to hunt.
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:03:27
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The HoF factions have caused this mess. They were the one that have "clear cut" the forest of all the trees leaving it a barren wasteland and now they want Ched to put more trees back so they can clear cut 'em all again. Ched sides with HoF (as usual) and is now forcing small factions to stand up again to receive their butt whipping. I guess if people won't voluntarily stand up for that whipping, it's up to you to make them take it, huh?
Edited by: -Razor- on 10/03/08 at 5:06:12 PM
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:11:53
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By HT-Supermikk [108922]
1. First of all. Chedburn, great work with this upgrade. It had to be done, even if a lot of people dont see it yet.
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Yeah it is the best upgrade that HoF factions made...
By HT-Supermikk [108922]
- Not more than 50% of the members flying at any given time
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Yeah, stay there and wait someone to hospitalize you. If you have 150-200k total stats you will find easy someone with 500k total stats who will put you in hospital
By HT-Supermikk [108922]
- People are looked to the faction for 30 days. That will end all guestchaining, and running away from fights.
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Yeah, stay there and go to hospital
By HT-Supermikk [108922]
- Higher bonus for players staying in agressiv factions. + 1000 happy, + 5 nervebar, + 10 % statgain (on top of the steadfast upgrade). I know it sounds a bit extreme, but we need to reward the once playing the game as inteended, and punish the cowards.
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Yeah, this is the reward for HoF factions because they have great ideas ... like this one
See? is simple to translate
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:14:34
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By HT-Supermikk [108922]
You mean like removing respect?
Damn fine idea... Wars were so much fun back then...
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I dont know if you are trying to be sarcastic or what, but wars were much more fun back then. I remember when having 4-5 factions in warbase was more than most factions could handle.
These days 50 factions in warbase aint enought for more than 10 chainers, because there is one 1-2 guys in every faction.
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try not having so many big players in 1 faction .... break up into smaller factions or is hitting someone that you can lose to no fun for you ?
Edited by: FreeBird4EvEr on 10/03/08 at 5:45:17 PM
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:24:31
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By HT-Supermikk [108922]
I would argue that you are completely clueless as to who the cowards are, It is you who are the cowards who need easy targets because you are to pathetic to war factions at your level.
Actually given your previous posts I would just argue that you are clueless period.
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You think we like warring weaker factions? You think i actually want to hosp a level 10?
It is because we are tired of this we want some more decent factions in TC.
The faction i am in got members from level 10 to level 50, so we also need targets in all range. But our main targets should bee between level 30-40, where most of our memers are at.
And if you have a look at TC, there is almost none of these factions left. Those few that is left cant we take as they have a NAP with us, and we do respect our nap's
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then its time to breakup the big factions into smaller 1's theres no need for 50 to 100 members or as stated so many times now you's cant seen to handle a true war with someone that can stand up to you like ive seen jfk do to yous and pt ...no fun being in the hospital all the time is it morph out try to do crimes/gym be4 being hit again
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:26:19
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I don't see why Ched was surprised with the huge number of peaceful faction created. Its like saying that he didn't realize so many companies would be created when that was first released. It was a new feature and people wanted to try it out. over time a lot of those factions would probably end up merging, getting deleted, or start warring.
There are many problems with factions right now as I see it.
Current Large factions declare on factions that have no hope of fighting back. But large Factions don't have enough targets to attack (this is why they are declaring on smaller factions). If you have a faction of 60 people you need a lot of targets.
The HOF factions are complaining about there only being a small number of people in each faction, and that there are not a lot of quality factions to war, but no one want to join a faction who is at war with HT, DV, 39th, DA, RAOV, and others all at the same time.
I think Factions should have the number of people in a faction restricted to say 20 people. This will do a couple things. First it will create more factions who want to war ( there are currently 172 people in the top 3 factions) and it will give the smaller factions a chance to build without being ganged up on. It also means that each faction does not need as many targets.
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:28:47
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By HT-Supermikk [108922]
Then why not have some of your members get out there and create aggressive factions of their own, that will liven up the warbases and allow those that want the to have their peaceful factions |
Because of the lack of factions we should war ourself? lol...
Why dont we all work together to find a solution that both the weaker and the stronger players and factions can agree on?
We need to make a way where players gets benefits for beeing activ and playing the game as inteende, not staying in peacefull factions, sending eachother roses and bragging about what great faction they are running... |
the game is a crime game why do you think theres oc's in the faction ???? you are trying to make it nothing more then a war game ....have ched get finale earth going again and thats your war game made the way you like
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:29:22
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this situation reminds me of another game site i use to play at, the admins changed things all around to accomidate the elite players, it led to a mass exodis, last time i played that game there was about 50 bitter angry players and admins left who destroyed every new player that joined, Is that what you want for TC Ched? cuz your taking all the right steps, walk on everyone to please a few spoiled brats who will throw a hissy fit if you dont let them have their way
Edited by: V1P3r on 10/03/08 at 5:30:53 PM
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:35:37
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this sucks. i only made a faction cause it wouldnt get destroyed. guess ill have to get my members to fly to canada everytime they log out or something like that to save them getting beat all day and the faction dying.
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:36:38
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In my experience, my friends and I (in real life) all decided to start one for a place to have a forum and play a game together. The faction we started, to help each other out and play a game together will just be obliterated once again. Even if we say we're just here to have fun we'll be in the hosp 24 / 7 like it was before the update when we tried to run a faction. I don't understand why something like this wasn't put to a vote. It makes no sense, the people who donate are like stockholders of the company (TC). If a company decides to make a huge decision, it does so only with the vote of its shareholders (that would be the donators). I understand your position and that you'll be damned if you do and damned if you don't. At least put it to a vote with the shareholders (donators) so that way the outcome is out of your hands and the only ones to blame for a mistake in the game will be ourselves.
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:37:05
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yo thats not fair at all there was no point of making a faction then you no that HT, 39th street killers and all the HOF factions will be warring us there is no point of making a faction if u know your gonna lose your faction change your mind and make them peacefull ched thats not fair
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:37:52
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this update SUX not fair
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:38:39
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yo thats not fair at all there was no point of making a faction then you no that HT, 39th street killers and all the HOF factions will be warring us there is no point of making a faction if u know your gonna lose your faction change your mind and make them peacefull ched thats not fair
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:38:55
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By killingt1m3 [356070]
In my experience, my friends and I (in real life) all decided to start one for a place to have a forum and play a game together. The faction we started, to help each other out and play a game together will just be obliterated once again. Even if we say we're just here to have fun we'll be in the hosp 24 / 7 like it was before the update when we tried to run a faction. I don't understand why something like this wasn't put to a vote. It makes no sense, the people who donate are like stockholders of the company (TC). If a company decides to make a huge decision, it does so only with the vote of its shareholders (that would be the donators). I understand your position and that you'll be damned if you do and damned if you don't. At least put it to a vote with the shareholders (donators) so that way the outcome is out of your hands and the only ones to blame for a mistake in the game will be ourselves. |
Well said
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:39:30
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yo thats not fair at all there was no point of making a faction then you no that HT, 39th street killers and all the HOF factions will be warring us there is no point of making a faction if u know your gonna lose your faction change your mind and make them peacefull ched thats not fair
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:40:25
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yo thats not fair at all there was no point of making a faction then you no that HT, 39th street killers and all the HOF factions will be warring us there is no point of making a faction if u know your gonna lose your faction change your mind and make them peacefull ched thats not fair
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:44:35
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By Chedburn [1]
We wanted to give factions the choice… To be peaceful or aggressive, this however did not work. With 800 factions created, 4 of those chose to be aggressive.
The issue we were faced with... what would happen in 6 months? All factions but one would inevitably end up peaceful, destroying the whole point of factions. It is supposed to be a dangerous world; the decisions you make are supposed to affect you, positively or negatively to create meaningful play. The change was by no means influenced by any other factions or people.
Three months is a long time, a long time to get all of your faction members ready to protect themselves, build up a respect buffer from OCs and gain allies. The three months, by the way, started for all factions yesterday, so you all have the same amount of time to get ready. And of course, with the new 50 faction war base limit it should make things really interesting. Just because your faction was destroyed last time, it doesn’t mean the same will happen this time… We’re even giving you 3 months to get prepared.
Over these three months, more things will change. For example, OC respect gain may be upped including the adding of additional OCs and an easier system to plan and initiate them. Small disadvantages may be added to higher factions attacking lower factions. At this current moment in time, if a level 40 attacked a level 10, the respect gain is decreased because of the level gap, we may raise the decrease further until we are perfectly happy with the system.
I realise the peaceful status change may have came as a shock, but try to think of it as a new beginning, a chance for you to prove yourself without having to have the nanny that you call “peaceful status”.
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:53:21
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I don't know if anyone else noticed, but there are more then just 4 warring factions, I took a look around and there are way more then 4.
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:55:07
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:55:16
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LOL this was done on purpose ( The Peaceful Faction trick), giving people like us, false sense of security, so we can all buy factions.....then shoving this update in our faces LOL
so now, HOF faction could have 'Open season' again.....YIPPY for them
i bet people in HT and HOF factions are polishing thier rifles, waiting for the 90day buffer to Harvest Respect from new factions, so they can get new faction specials
lol
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:55:42
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By Caecus [91913]
I don't see why Ched was surprised with the huge number of peaceful faction created. Its like saying that he didn't realize so many companies would be created when that was first released. It was a new feature and people wanted to try it out. over time a lot of those factions would probably end up merging, getting deleted, or start warring.
There are many problems with factions right now as I see it.
Current Large factions declare on factions that have no hope of fighting back. But large Factions don't have enough targets to attack (this is why they are declaring on smaller factions). If you have a faction of 60 people you need a lot of targets.
The HOF factions are complaining about there only being a small number of people in each faction, and that there are not a lot of quality factions to war, but no one want to join a faction who is at war with HT, DV, 39th, DA, RAOV, and others all at the same time.
I think Factions should have the number of people in a faction restricted to say 20 people. This will do a couple things. First it will create more factions who want to war ( there are currently 172 people in the top 3 factions) and it will give the smaller factions a chance to build without being ganged up on. It also means that each faction does not need as many targets. |
nope not true thats why peaceful factions has to stay ...... you know as well as i do the big factions are friends all the big players have been here from the start or were friends to begin with and most likly will still hit just the smaller and weaker players as they dont have the nuts to fight a true even war ......... you all keep saying lvl but lvl has jackshi? to do with it, its total stats not every1 in tc had the money or chose to do drugs point blank their money went to paying off the wars from bigger players they had no hope of winning from so those few could get bigger and kick your a$$ faster
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:55:53
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LOL this was done on purpose ( The Peaceful Faction trick), giving people like us, false sense of security, so we can all buy factions.....then shoving this update in our faces LOL
so now, HOF faction could have 'Open season' again.....YIPPY for them
i bet people in HT and HOF factions are polishing thier rifles, waiting for the 90day buffer to Harvest Respect from new factions, so they can get new faction specials
lol
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:56:57
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LOL this was done on purpose ( The Peaceful Faction trick), giving people like us, false sense of security, so we can all buy factions.....then shoving this update in our faces LOL
so now, HOF faction could have 'Open season' again.....YIPPY for them
i bet people in HT and HOF factions are polishing thier rifles, waiting for the 90day buffer to Harvest Respect from new factions, so they can get new faction specials
lol
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 17:58:46
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Join a faction to be safe, put all your money in the bank, dont gamble, check in twice a day to update your stats, then get back to work.......the boss is looking.......LOL
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:00:08
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By Hawk570 [63221]
I still contend that if given time there would be a shift to more aggressive factions. |
Damn right players will when they are bored of just doing OCs and when they think they are ready to take on the big factions then they will become aggressive. not when ched tells them to.
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:00:08
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Also.......stay in Mexico unless its lunch time at work.....:D
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:01:27
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Has anyone actually noticed that like, no admins have said anything in this for a while? anyway yeah this is the worst possible road to take. All the metaphors about the forests and all the peeps going "Oh do you think we like hosping lv10s?" well you must do or you wouldnt do it!
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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 18:02:22
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Personally, i think its a shit idea that you are taking away peacefull status for factions, why make the change in the first place if tc didnt even keep it for very long, it may have worked ...
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