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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 15:34:55
I sold a parachute and used every last dime to fund my "PEACEFUL" faction, now Iām out all that cash, ya I didnāt buy a dp for it but I had planned to purchase some to get more upgrades, if TC was all about wars and fighting I wouldnāt be on here, TC is more then a game its a place for people to hang out. If I wanted a video game I would get on my playstation and log online and fight people. I'm sorry but if something doesnāt get down Iām going to liquidate my faction and turn over all funds to the few newbs I have and Iām going to quit.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 15:36:31
Reading these posts make me think.

Why are you guys training at all, when you dont want to use your battle skills?

"We want the faction som we can talk with eachother"

You got irc, facebook and MSN for that.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 15:38:06
ya why are we training, everytime i train i get about 10% of the stats as what he gets when he trains, infact why the F*CK would anyone want to even be on tc anymore?

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 15:38:12
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why not charge a BRIBE of say 10% for successful OCs who are peaceful and another % for those at war!!

and half or so could go to the LAW career as there seems NO real reason (except fastest stats) to be in Law

just a thought as OC esp at low leves seems to be just another reason for inflation


good idea pal



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 15:38:14
By HT-Supermikk [108922]
Reading these posts make me think.

Why are you guys training at all, when you dont want to use your battle skills?

"We want the faction som we can talk with eachother"

You got irc, facebook and MSN for that.



Gee, it couldn't possibly be to make it so less people can attack us could it???

Or is that too logical for you


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 15:40:54
Well I am not all happy about it, and took all the links of TC from my web pages and such off. I even offered friends on here who are not happy with the play of the game now, to pay for them to get DPs on another game and just give up on here. It's becoming less and less of a reason for us to meet on here and play on here.

IMO, they should have given it at least 90 days fully from when the General membership got involved with being in the protected factions and seen how many had stayed peaceful.



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 15:44:33
By HT-Supermikk [108922]
Reading these posts make me think.

Why are you guys training at all, when you dont want to use your battle skills?


1) Dexterity and speed for crimes

2) Defense = lesser hospital time

3) Missions

4) Oh yeah and dex for busting

Edit: Added # 4


Edited by: Kelsun on 10/03/08 at 3:47:20 PM

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 15:54:19
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who would happy with this? really doubt it would benefits low lvs or who just wanna stay away from war!


Then they shouldn't be in a faction: that's what companies are for.


ched factions are s great meeting place for freinds and if people didnt have freinds on this game i doubt people would play or pay for dp

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 15:56:41
By Tek [446637]
I sold a parachute and used every last dime to fund my "PEACEFUL" faction, now Iām out all that cash, ya I didnāt buy a dp for it but I had planned to purchase some to get more upgrades, if TC was all about wars and fighting I wouldnāt be on here, TC is more then a game its a place for people to hang out. If I wanted a video game I would get on my playstation and log online and fight people. I'm sorry but if something doesnāt get down Iām going to liquidate my faction and turn over all funds to the few newbs I have and Iām going to quit.



dont quit our faction loves you

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:00:53
3 months?? lolx...lower level can get 30k-50k in 3 months...so as the battle stats...


nice update ched...like always, supporting the strong and bullying the weak..give TC a big round of applause....xD

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:06:17
anyone quiting TC .. feel free to send me items haha

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:18:28
The point i thought of a faction was the aspect of safety in numbers of likewise levels who group together. However in my very long time with Torn City i have seen so many people abuse the system two level 28's withholding their level who held up every faction in the game except the HOF factions who refused to help the little guys. How was this ever fair. I liked the idea of a peaceful faction but have to agree with Ched it doesn't work we tried to wait for peaceful status to come by just sitting. However i have spend the last few weeks in hospital unable to train, and as for many of us of my age we only visit Torn City a few times a day just to stay loyal for the last 3 and a half years. That is no change to the time i spent in hospital just because someone thought i was affiliated with someone. I never hold out on a level to cheat the game and i don't do drugs however I have seen no benefit to being this way. Druggies and bullies rule this game and i think i've gotten used to the idea however many people haven't given up trying to beat the bullies that walk amongst us.

I suggest Ched for your next upgrade a cheater upgrade to stop all those people who cheat the game and win! It certainly doesn't make the game fun for people especially new additions to the game and increase our numbers playing and those enjoying the game as a whole. (not to mention the increase in donators)

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:21:18
By FeZ [333929]
3 months?? lolx...lower level can get 30k-50k in 3 months...so as the battle stats...


nice update ched...like always, supporting the strong and bullying the weak..give TC a big round of applause....xD

you had better hope your stats grew by 300-to 500k in three months if your going to stand up to the old HOF factions, not 30-50k you can always join us in the 4-5 warning club for talking smack to the HOF cuz basically thats all we could do againts them when they were destroying us, and of course the shining examples they are, theyd report us for talking smack and the admins side up with them and forum ban, you fed you, mail ban you threaten to kick you from a game that was suppose to be fun. Good times, good times.
Oh and BTW HT-Supermikk why dont YOU stfu we're intitled to our opinions too, and shouldnt your lips be back on the backside you were kissing for the past 3 weeks to get this change implimented?


Edited by: V1P3r on 10/03/08 at 4:22:23 PM

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:22:13
1. First of all. Chedburn, great work with this upgrade. It had to be done, even if a lot of people dont see it yet.

2. Here are some more issues that need to bee looked into, to make warring like we had in the good old days.

- At least 10 members in each faction
- Not more than 50% of the members flying at any given time
- People are looked to the faction for 30 days. That will end all guestchaining, and running away from fights.
- Higher bonus for players staying in agressiv factions. + 1000 happy, + 5 nervebar, + 10 % statgain (on top of the steadfast upgrade). I know it sounds a bit extreme, but we need to reward the once playing the game as inteended, and punish the cowards.
- 30 mill for buying new faction. This will make it harder for the cowards to start up another peacefull factions when the 90 days are up.


This is just a couple of suggestion i think need to bee looked into. By implementing some of these thoughts we will breed life into the warring aspect of this game...

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:24:33
By HT-Supermikk [108922]
to make warring like we had in the good old days.


You mean like removing respect?

Damn fine idea... Wars were so much fun back then...

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:25:21
After considerable thought I have concluded that the problem here is that the game has been won by the top factions but there is no facility or game arrangments to reflect that.
Hence they dont know how to stop or have to stop and , as a consequence, 796 out of 800 factions are trying to hide from them. I suggest the Ched add the facility.. to allow the game to finish and continue after...

Perhaps??
The top HOF faction is declared winner...The faction is set to Peaceful and 250 respect and each member for the last 30 days has his stats reduced to 1k...all assets removed....#2 faction is set to Peaceful and 250 respect and each member for the last 30 days has his stats reduced to 20k...all assets removed....#3 faction is set to Peaceful and 250 respect and each member for the last 30 days has his stats reduced to 50k...All other HOF factions are set to Peaceful and 250 respect and the members of each faction have their stats reduced to 100k.....After all, from past history, they will need a head start on the Number 1 faction.....if they are to ever compete..... The rest of the game carries on....We will need a huge head start on such prolific players...We didnt even place....This will effectively reset/level the game without affecting each player....
Of course recognition of the win must be part of the process...Perhaps permanent Donor status and an Icon by there name? A HOF page with names??

We all know that the Monster factions and stats at the top cannot be allowed ot continue on as in the past... That is the problem demonstarted by the 796 peaceful factions....and the big factions represent only 1-1/2 to 2% of the TC community...So lets get on with it....This can't continue as is....It no longer works...They won..We all lost .... So, lets get something in place to recognize that so the game can go on.....91 day will be plenty long enough for those people and factions to prepare themselves to compete ...RIGHT???
For those of you who enjoy humor ..watch who screams loudest here now....... Also I am sending this directly to Cheburn . He appears to need help that gives a rats ass....Dan

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:26:24
I'm glad something was done about this, I found it pointless for everyone to be peaceful, I like to war...and yet I am having trouble finding a faction who isn't peaceful... Takes away from the meaning behind the game. So THANKS for the changes... Will make it interesting in about 3 months

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:27:13


You mean like removing respect?

Damn fine idea... Wars were so much fun back then...

:|o




I dont know if you are trying to be sarcastic or what, but wars were much more fun back then. I remember when having 4-5 factions in warbase was more than most factions could handle.

These days 50 factions in warbase aint enought for more than 10 chainers, because there is one 1-2 guys in every faction.


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:28:57
I was referring back to the days before factions came out, where people would war for a reason rather than respect...

The main aim of winning a war then was which side could keep the others in hospital the longest...

And yes, I was being sarcastic...

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:28:57
Is it really surprising that most of the newly formed factions were peaceful? if you gave it more than a week I'm sure more would have gone to war but in that first week most are probably stoking up on morphine, vico and organising who they will attack.

How may of those new factions were started due to the rules change? 800(?) were started now would it have stayed at that level or gone down and balanced out with roughly the equivalent number of new factions starting, going to war status and being zeroed?

Probably IF it had been given time.

As it now stands 800 factions have been bought to increase the respect of just a few.

Offer a one off chance for people to disband their factions with a full refund of points and cash donated so that people who created it based on the rules don't just end up only benefiting the HOF now the goal posts have been moved.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:34:02
- 30 mill for buying new faction. This will make it harder for the cowards to start up another peacefull factions when the 90 days are up.


I would argue that you are completely clueless as to who the cowards are, It is you who are the cowards who need easy targets because you are to pathetic to war factions at your level.

Actually given your previous posts I would just argue that you are clueless period.


Edited by: Morticia-Addams on 10/03/08 at 4:34:27 PM

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:34:33
By HT-Supermikk [108922]
1. First of all. Chedburn, great work with this upgrade. It had to be done, even if a lot of people dont see it yet.

2. Here are some more issues that need to bee looked into, to make warring like we had in the good old days.

- At least 10 members in each faction
- Not more than 50% of the members flying at any given time
- People are looked to the faction for 30 days. That will end all guestchaining, and running away from fights.
- Higher bonus for players staying in agressiv factions. + 1000 happy, + 5 nervebar, + 10 % statgain (on top of the steadfast upgrade). I know it sounds a bit extreme, but we need to reward the once playing the game as inteended, and punish the cowards.
- 30 mill for buying new faction. This will make it harder for the cowards to start up another peacefull factions when the 90 days are up.


This is just a couple of suggestion i think need to bee looked into. By implementing some of these thoughts we will breed life into the warring aspect of this game...


seems the only cowards here are you bigger stat players that cant war bigger stat players ......
1) stop killing off the waring factions
2) limit the max members in a faction to 20 (as all the players that where here when i joined 1000 plus days ago are now in a handful of top factions that dont seem to want and war each other)
3) you cant jump from faction to faction helping each other out
4) if you think hitting players with 90% less (and more )your stats is fun i think u need to get a life
and as stated a # of times in this thread its a crime game not just a war game

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:36:57
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4) if you think hitting players with 90% less (and more )your stats is fun i think u need to get a life
and as stated a # of times in this thread its a crime game not just a war game


they lost sight of that a LONG time ago



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:41:28


I would argue that you are completely clueless as to who the cowards are, It is you who are the cowards who need easy targets because you are to pathetic to war factions at your level.

Actually given your previous posts I would just argue that you are clueless period.



You think we like warring weaker factions? You think i actually want to hosp a level 10?

It is because we are tired of this we want some more decent factions in TC.

The faction i am in got members from level 10 to level 50, so we also need targets in all range. But our main targets should bee between level 30-40, where most of our memers are at.

And if you have a look at TC, there is almost none of these factions left. Those few that is left cant we take as they have a NAP with us, and we do respect our nap's



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:42:59
By HT-Supermikk [108922]
1. First of all. Chedburn, great work with this upgrade. It had to be done, even if a lot of people dont see it yet.

2. Here are some more issues that need to bee looked into, to make warring like we had in the good old days.

- At least 10 members in each faction
- Not more than 50% of the members flying at any given time
- People are looked to the faction for 30 days. That will end all guestchaining, and running away from fights.
- Higher bonus for players staying in agressiv factions. + 1000 happy, + 5 nervebar, + 10 % statgain (on top of the steadfast upgrade). I know it sounds a bit extreme, but we need to reward the once playing the game as inteended, and punish the cowards.
- 30 mill for buying new faction. This will make it harder for the cowards to start up another peacefull factions when the 90 days are up.


This is just a couple of suggestion i think need to bee looked into. By implementing some of these thoughts we will breed life into the warring aspect of this game...


You really are blinkered mate. The peaceful factions are going to be dis-banded before the 90 days are up, if not sooner...you'll be in the same postiton your in now, crying to Ched's shoulder that there is no one to bully into submission and take money from.
Like we have to live with the fact that our peaceful factions are going down the toilet, you have to live with the fact you'll still have no one to bully.....happy days

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:43:44
You think we like warring weaker factions? You think i actually want to hosp a level 10?

It is because we are tired of this we want some more decent factions in TC.

The faction i am in got members from level 10 to level 50, so we also need targets in all range. But our main targets should bee between level 30-40, where most of our memers are at.

And if you have a look at TC, there is almost none of these factions left. Those few that is left cant we take as they have a NAP with us, and we do respect our nap's


Then why not have some of your members get out there and create aggressive factions of their own, that will liven up the warbases and allow those that want the to have their peaceful factions

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:48:17

Then why not have some of your members get out there and create aggressive factions of their own, that will liven up the warbases and allow those that want the to have their peaceful factions


Because of the lack of factions we should war ourself? lol...

Why dont we all work together to find a solution that both the weaker and the stronger players and factions can agree on?

We need to make a way where players gets benefits for beeing activ and playing the game as inteende, not staying in peacefull factions, sending eachother roses and bragging about what great faction they are running...

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:51:57
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I would argue that you are completely clueless as to who the cowards are, It is you who are the cowards who need easy targets because you are to pathetic to war factions at your level.

Actually given your previous posts I would just argue that you are clueless period.



You think we like warring weaker factions? You think i actually want to hosp a level 10?

It is because we are tired of this we want some more decent factions in TC.

The faction i am in got members from level 10 to level 50, so we also need targets in all range. But our main targets should bee between level 30-40, where most of our memers are at.

And if you have a look at TC, there is almost none of these factions left. Those few that is left cant we take as they have a NAP with us, and we do respect our nap's




there are none of these factions left because nobody can compete the hof factions, they are just too far ahead. im in a peaceful faction with my friends and we had every intention of going to war when we were good and ready, thought that was the whole point of peaceful status however 91days is nowhere near long enough when we range from level 2-level15!

so what was the answer to this? con people into creating peaceful factions with no warning this could happen so there are more targets and of course a nice little money spinner for a certain mayor!


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:56:35
Because of the lack of factions we should war ourself? lol...


My point is all the strongest players and those that enjoy the warring parts of the game are either in HOF factions or keep trying to join factions that get zeroed before they get started, some of those invested in peaceful factions with the intention to get a foothold and then start warring, other people who invested in peaceful factions did so for the simple reason that they didn't want to war.

What's been done here is that everybody been thrust into a war situation whether they wanted to be in one or not, without giving the time to see how many of the peaceful factions were actually building themselves up to war. Those who made peaceful factions for peaceful purposes will delete their factions and those being thrust into wars before they're ready will either delete or be zeroed in next to no time.

As for my suggestion that your members should start making factions of their own, obviously these factions will have strong alliances and have more chance of success than the majority of these peaceful factions who are either goping to be deleted or will be eliminated in a few days, because of this they will be more attractive propositions to those who have become jaded at the whole warring experience because they have never managed to get started.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 16:58:16
Wow....people just dont get it. Why do we have to be force fed the change of our faction. Why cant there be things like peaceful and aggressive factions? I still contend that if given time there would be a shift to more aggressive factions. Given time when a faction felt it was up to strength and could attack they would. At least they could be given time..oh and I dont send out roses or talk about what a kick ass faction I have...I just have a good place for players to hang out do OC's and improve themselves until they are ready to go to war...oh well

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