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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:00:13
By Bulldog66 [25574]
The only way to protest about anything is to do hit where it hurts.

CASH real $$$.

If you are not happy with whats going on and feel nobody listens to you.

Be proactive.

Dont buy a DP using your cash.
Don't buy one from the market.
Don't vote weekly or daily.

AFTER ALL 90% of cash injected into this game comes from the last 10% of ppl who signed up.

And its those ppl that are have most to lose from all these hap hazard updates.

You do the mathes.

No donatey status = No cashey cashey.

You will never standup, fight and beat a top faction as a noob. You will never ever get the stats. So you either shutup and just accept everything that gets changed as it is.

OR you make a stand.

Vote with your wallets.:P


Edited by: Bulldog66 on 09/03/08 at 12:20:23 PM


Not only am I putting this on my profile But I think it is the best advise I have seen.

This game isnt about living in a dangrous world, its about people beating and taking advantage of the weak. As a former faction owner x3 and many many wars unprovoked with the boonies and Romnia 15mil in protection fees that didnt last. I felt there was no point in this game. My faction wasnt made of high level players and badass fighters, it was made of friends and people I trust.

I hope everyone refuses to donate and/or vote! Lets send a message!

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:00:29
Well, I guess we will find out in 91 days when the admin is not in the hospital for the take back decision they made!

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:03:19
ched when you implemented peaceful factions you gave us ALL hope. This was good and commendable honorable even. It really was one of the VERY best decisions you had made.

But now this will turn TC into a tyrannical rule, and you will be viewed as a tyrant. I hardly doubt you are this type, but right now you are walking a fine line between the ruination of this game for most of us, or making us all hopeful and willing to support you in what you will do to better this game in the future.


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:05:45
hmm 95 members + vico +points thats 1140 atacks first hour then 95 eatch hour after, me wonder how long it takes to kill those new factions with average 3-400 respect that goes agressive in 90 days.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:05:46
this is a joke, myself and friends all level 6 and under got our faction respect to 1000 only to have ht declare on us, now we dont mind defending ourselves and fighting back against simalar factions with same stats but come on its a bit 1 sided when my members with 20k stats have to fight a faction with 40 more members with 5000k speed strength and anti tank guns, and we have berettas lmao so rather than get hosped 24-7 we decided just to disolve the faction then we see peacefull status and started anew only for you to change your mind thanks for nothing thats another few mill down the pan. and like ive read on these pages we are not the only ones who feel this way, we dont mind wars but lets have some sense here new factions and low levels will never be strong enough to fight the hof so i see a lot of factions dissolving which leaves the hof in the same boat noone to fight

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:06:17
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easy solution. everyone fly out to South Africa to protest until there is an update where everyone has a chance to catch up with the stronger players.

I get 200 extra speed with 15 trains(150 energy), I knew someone who gained 200 speed from just 1 train(10 energy). Anyone tell me how that is fair for any new player that joins TC? There is no way I can train more than 15 times more that player to catch him up.

Another point. How can i fire at a higher level using my minigun or an rpg launcher and keep missing. Is he f*cking superman


Edited by: CoolHandLuke on 09/03/08 at 8:27:53 PM"

This is another problem that keeps being posted about in this thread. Is it just me or is that not backwards. It should get harder to train a stat up not easier. All this does is make sure newbs stay weaker while the stronger get even more strong. But in 91 days all those people in factions get a visit from the good fairy who magiclly makes the newbs catch up, rite ched, lol.





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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:06:43
By Somer [289874]
By Bulldog66 [25574]
The only way to protest about anything is to do hit where it hurts.

CASH real $$$.

If you are not happy with whats going on and feel nobody listens to you.

Be proactive.

Dont buy a DP using your cash.
Don't buy one from the market.
Don't vote weekly or daily.

AFTER ALL 90% of cash injected into this game comes from the last 10% of ppl who signed up.

And its those ppl that are have most to lose from all these hap hazard updates.

You do the mathes.

No donatey status = No cashey cashey.

You will never standup, fight and beat a top faction as a noob. You will never ever get the stats. So you either shutup and just accept everything that gets changed as it is.

OR you make a stand.

Vote with your wallets.:P


Edited by: Bulldog66 on 09/03/08 at 12:20:23 PM


Not only am I putting this on my profile But I think it is the best advise I have seen.

This game isnt about living in a dangrous world, its about people beating and taking advantage of the weak. As a former faction owner x3 and many many wars unprovoked with the boonies and Romnia 15mil in protection fees that didnt last. I felt there was no point in this game. My faction wasnt made of high level players and badass fighters, it was made of friends and people I trust.

I hope everyone refuses to donate and/or vote! Lets send a message!


DP status costs less than 200k a month right now if you sell the points back... easy to make that in a month... stop paying real money to a game that caters to the high level players and staff...

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:07:15
It gives you three months to prepare, but since stat gains are exponential and money gains from crimes are much larger, doesn't just give big factions 3 months to get an even larger headstart? I'm just asking because that's how it appears it would be mathematically.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:07:39
Problem
ched, this still dosent change the fact that people bought factions bc of the update......got scamed out of there money...... bottom line ........people bought factions for there paceful status..... and these people got scamed out of there money because you have yet made anther change that totaly contradicts the fact of why people bought into factions..... ched you have failed to fix this problem .......

Suggestion

there should be some kinda reimbursement like 70% of what they paied for the faction, because of the false security you have given all the people buying into factions.....given that people are goin to make some money from the ocs 70% would be a fair amount.....


By Alamo [162873]
The whole issue isn't about whether factions should be peaceful or not. Get rid of the peaceful factions, I could care less. The issue is plain and simple. People bought factions based on being told they could remain peaceful until they declared war on someone. Everyone should have a chance to get their money back. If this is done, this debate will be over.

To all of you anti-peace factions....Do you guys think they should have a chance to get their money back or should ched just say "screw 'em, it's my game" I know your opinion on peaceful factions, I would just like to hear your opinion on whether or not you think they/we got screwed?


Edited by: Alamo on 10/03/08 at 2:38:57 AM



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:07:51
By 666-spider [197317]
hmm 95 members + vico +points thats 1140 atacks first hour then 95 eatch hour after, me wonder how long it takes to kill those new factions with average 3-400 respect that goes agressive in 90 days.


They will not get that chance. We have one wonderful option open to us.

DELETE FACTION

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:10:11
Apparently most people in factions disagree with you Ched; 796 to 4... Sheesh! Seems to me you might want to rethink the whole current concept of factions. You keep tinkering with the rules, but aren't doing anything for the little guys. My faction was patiently accruing respect by doing the guerilla thing; coming together long enough to OC and then dispersing, and having the leader (holder) high-tail it to Mexico. You changed the rules so that once in a faction you had to remain so for three days, losing three days of training... It seems to me like all your faction changes favor the elder players.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:11:26
:thumbsdown:

To fix this all. you've got to come up with a reason to get the big name players to fight against each other. Right now they only have to fight with the little guys, and none of the little guys are very happy about it.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:16:36
31 Julatsa 27 47
32 IGodzIxGeneralx 26 13
33 g-had 26 25
34 chathorrible 26 49
35 shenv 26 3
36 -Lips- 26 1
37 Joseph 25 37 [b][/b]

Hey look I'm famous! Trust me...most people in DA have reasonable stats but we're not all mind blowing. I'm certainly not. Of all the HOF factions that I'm aware of (I could be mistaken), we're probably the most noobish! And we relish it. It shows more dedication to busting our asses with more human stats. Plus we have hot babes in our faction.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:17:56
wow, a lot of u guys are just being panzies, some of you sound like five-year-old children. It really isnt that big of a deal, live with it.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:18:12
well, atleast thx for giving me 3 month to sell my faction off.:|

atleast i only spend 3mill to get it up to where it's at.

sure suck how you arn't allowed to get the factions merits if you don't have like 10mill stats.:|

i figure the little fa**et pucks got to you, and complated enough to get you to change it to there favor.

i'm so glad you little friends in DV got you to change the EVERYTHING to fit their needs and all your little friends that play this game. sure goes to show really how much you care for the people that REALLY made this game what it is. US. the people who actually play this game. if it wasn't for us, you would still be flipping burgers, living in your moms basement.

you may want to think about changing your under ware as many times as you change the aspect of factions.

thx for nothing ched.

and really from the bottom of my heart, please don't have any children, we don't need anymore of "you."

:|

i sure hate you ched.....

edit, thats the last you'll hear from me about this.

Edited by: SuperKyle on 10/03/08 at 2:21:16 AM


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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:22:22
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OC's brilliant i think you should go ahead with that.

Well to be honest im not looking forward to this as the last faction i was in that i had been in for a long time got destroyed by HT and i was getting mugged 24 7 i didnt want to leave because of the amount of days i was in their for. At the moment untill i get my stats up alot higher than they are at them moment then i would like to stick with a peacefull faction at play WW comps in the forums and thats a good way to improve my stats and get a prize at the end.


Edited by: Evil_Phantom on 09/03/08 at 7:51:32 PM"

The only way your gonna get strong enough is if all the old players left. This whole system is flawed and only good for people who have been here reguraly for over 1k days.



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:25:57
By Komodo [386574]
wow, a lot of u guys are just being panzies, some of you sound like five-year-old children. It really isnt that big of a deal, live with it.


Some of us like to keep our right to protest....

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:28:11
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That is what happens when you join a faction and a much bigger faction wars on that faction. You are attacked by a bigger player that harasses you until you have no further option. The admins refuse to comply with your harassment accusations and you have to keep your mouth shut.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:33:14
The whole issue isn't about whether factions should be peaceful or not. Get rid of the peaceful factions, I could care less. The issue is plain and simple. People bought factions based on being told they could remain peaceful until they declared war on someone. Everyone should have a chance to get their money back. If this is done, this debate will be over.

To all of you anti-peace factions....Do you guys think they should have a chance to get their money back or should ched just say "screw 'em, it's my game" I know your opinion on peaceful factions, I would just like to hear your opinion on whether or not you think they got screwed?


Edited by: Alamo on 10/03/08 at 2:38:57 AM

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:37:00
We would like to keep the option to either war with another faction or stay peaceful at the moment.

The war application would look like this:

Would you like to go to war with ????? at the moment?

Check Yes or No


It is a very simple form to include in the coding. I have showed you how even.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:41:25
well once 91 days is up ill just sell my faction and start over simple as that im not here to get destroyed by bigger factions that pick on the weak people because they have played the game longer im here to have fun so that my solution. so if anyone wants to buy a faction that will have around 1k respect in 91 days message me ill be selling it in 90 days thanks.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:42:19
well worst case scenario, after the 90 days are up, everyone owning a peaceful should cut their members to just themselves, then anyone that declares can hosp you and you just retalliate with a 12 chain on your own....... you'll gain more off of them than they can off of you




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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:43:15
By Komodo [386574]
wow, a lot of u guys are just being panzies, some of you sound like five-year-old children. It really isnt that big of a deal, live with it.


No we will not live with it this is BIG not something to joke about. Its wrong to make a change like this, my wife spent money for a peaceful faction. We have new friends that will be gone when we delete and go N/A. The implementation of peaceful factions was a great and very POSITIVE change in the TC community. This is the most talked about situation ever in TC so it is real and in your face. This is not some little matter that you will smooth over by deleting threads and posts of ppl when they make them. Cheating us is not fair and if we allow this then we might as well quit the game.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 02:49:24
ched your opening post is bullshit, you pretend that you are trying to make improvements when all you have done is failed once again to make a difference, faction were before, are now and ever will be pointless and eventually you will end up with only 4 allied factions that have a bazillion respect that means absolutely nothing. until of course you create an excuse to convince people to make more faction in a 3 month period then once again conspice with your closest of close friend to have them wiped out.

all the creative thinking you may have ever possesed has been lost soon after i suspect when you came up with a name for this site.

boohoo only 4 factions are at war, well you should be happy your plan worked, you now have 796 other factions that can be led to the slaughter no matter how many pathetic and weak their alliances to similar pathetic and weak factions.

as their is also little to no point in upgrading your level it is a preposterous base to ground any calculations within the game.

your ideas reflect your stupidity and our gullibility.

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 03:00:24
By PiKapp520 [533954]
We would like to keep the option to either war with another faction or stay peaceful at the moment.

The war application would look like this:

Would you like to go to war with ????? at the moment?

Check Yes or No


It is a very simple form to include in the coding. I have showed you how even.


And you could send it with a cup of tea 2 lmfao

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 03:04:11
Well all you peaceful faction lovers I am going to sleep. Do not give up the fight for your right to peaceful factions and the right to play this game with some semblance of fun. Fight to keep the friends you have made and being able to have these friends to work together with. A tyrannical ruler is never fun who wants to live in such tyranny? I know I donāt and will never give up on any one of you. KEEP GOING ALL!!!

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 03:04:57
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who would happy with this? really doubt it would benefits low lvs or who just wanna stay away from war!


Then they shouldn't be in a faction: that's what companies are for.


thats bullshit!! companies do not have a forum or anyway to interact with your fellow employees! and no, a shout box / message board is not the same!

you should have mentioned the 90 day peaceful status before people spent real cash creating factions!



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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 03:11:39
I think it is a bunch of BULL****!

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I think it is a bunch of BULL****!


ya what he said

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Posted on Mon Mar 10, 2008 03:19:11
There you have it... a lot of angry players... what are you going to do? Change your mind or end up with a dead game with nothing but die hards and bitter staff members.

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