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Posted on Mon Mar 17, 2008 13:31:22
If you aren't in a HOF faction you might as well go to your local kinky store, buy a huge bottle of KY or similar lubricant, apply said lubricant to your ass region , and spread your cheeks wide for a good ol' fashioned ass reaming.


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Posted on Mon Mar 17, 2008 13:41:07
Chedburn licks the ass of the older players!!!

who pays for the DP's is it level 40's with millions or level 3's trying to make money!!...

who is peaceful status going to have a negative effect on... come on ched!!! you seem like you want this game to go to shit!!!

listen to what players are telling you and sort it dont take descisions depending on the older players!

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Posted on Mon Mar 17, 2008 16:55:26
SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN SAYS I:) SERIOUSLY GOOD IDEA OH AND BY THE WAY PEOPLE WILL STAY BUY XANAX TO TRAIN...TUM TE TUM

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I'm not rich but i'm comfortable....no wait! I'm both :D
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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 01:41:32
Ok.. first off.. you babies have to quit crying. Get over it!

I'm glad that peaceful factions will be eliminated after a certain period of time. I believe it's FAIR to give new factions a certain amount of time to get things under control before they can be warred against; as in getting the members they need and gaining a little respect and money with OC's. If you don't want to war then don't start a faction. That is what a faction is.

One more thing about money. It's not about what level you are.. it's those who buy DP after DP and put those points on the market for so little who are screwing ME over. What are they going for now? 20,200 or some crap. Whew, I remember when they were going for much, much more than that! I try to bring up the point market so I can make a little money here and there. People find it easier to buy a DP than to really try and make money on TC. So go yell at those people.

BUT.. on a different note I have had a few friends on TC quit playing the game because of the staff betraying them in some way, shape or form.

play nice on the playground!

geisha

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 02:13:07
dude try reading what ppl have posted and get a clue.

You cry about money try 2 billion gone with the loss of peaceful factions. That is FED action there but guess the owner of the game isn't going to lock himself up. Plus any of his helpers.

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 03:18:52
I hav4e found a new war game....And I think Rob is right.....and Where is Wynn when we need her....Clandanser is no substitute

quote "TORN?...I created it for a hobby, never for money" endquote

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Really?
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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 03:34:50
Guys, seriously i think ched makes decent money off this game but if he does not listen to all of you the (Majority) he is avery stupid business man. There ar enot that many HOF's s how many Dp's dop they need? If he made the game more advantagous for noobs to join TC and Stay he would make a shit load more money for himself and to re invest into the games. Now also I hear alot of HOF's in his ear are self serving, but are there any smart HOF????? do they realize if they only make the game fun for them everyone else will leave? How much fun will it be for them whe there is only HOF left????? al that work and time they put into for nothing!!!!!

So if all you guys complaining actually want to make a difference its simple.

Don't buy DP's!!!!

If attacked by a hall of fame faction either quit the faction or if you own it delete the faction (there not worth much anyways now a days)

HOF will have no one to attack making there life boring and will then just maybe suggest to ched there needs to be a change.


AND WHEN CHED's money per month is cut in half!!!!!!! well then i think he will start listening to us.

BUT LISTEN GUYS YOU NEED TO DO THESE THINGS OR STOP COMPLAINING. CUZ ITS PROVEN COMPLAINING IS ONLY WASTING YOUR TIME!!!!!

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 04:35:51
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I also have been spending less time playing TC. It was really dieing and I fear that since they will not put peaceful factions back it will die the rest of the way. Yes players will be here but it will just be a shell of the game it could have been. Putting peaceful factions in was a great idea and gave life back to TC. But once this happens the effect will be even worse then if they had not introducaed peaceful factions into the game at all. This was a HUGE mistake soon ched but you REALLY screwed up this time. Only you have messed up so many times in the past you think this time is just like the other. You can't see yet that its not.


This is more or less dead on.

But I think the problem is that Ched knows very little about the day to day activities of players. He was surprised def whores used stalemates to eventually get victories, etc etc.

I don't blame Ched for that at all. I think he busts his ass making sure the servers run smoothly. The game has never been this lag free and he deserves a ton of credit. He's been busy with other stuff and I appreciate the results. Lag was awful and it is not missed.

But the problem is that now he's very out of touch with the day to day realities for players, and he's taking his advice from some incredibly self-serving people.

The sad thing is that there used to be some incredibly even-handed staff members like Wynn who seem to have fallen out of favor for reasons I don't know.
It's left Ched, who I really do think wants the best for the game and who seems to bust his ass, surrounded by bad advice and self-serving points of view.

He knows his staff, interacts with them much more closely than average players, so it's just human nature that he takes their word over ours.

To be honest, I think what the game really needs is some of the older players who have worked on staff and who Ched knows to really step up and speak their minds, and give him a more balanced view of the game.
I know at least some of them are afraid to do that because of the way some of the other people people in this game operate, but if they don't take that chance and push for change I think Rock's prediction will likely come true.


nicely said...

TC is finally lag free and has been for a long time... i would definitely not want to go back to the 'dark ages'... So kudos to ched for coming through...

but if it is true that ched doesn't play the game, then i can see how he came up with 'peaceful status removed' and the '3 months is plenty of time to get prepared' ideas...

does ched read any of these anyway, or he asks his self-serving staff to pass on the players' views to him?

cause i have yet to see a single response...

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 04:37:05
15 mil gone thanks ched

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 06:35:31
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but if it is true that ched doesn't play the game, then i can see how he came up with 'peaceful status removed' and the '3 months is plenty of time to get prepared' ideas...

does ched read any of these anyway, or he asks his self-serving staff to pass on the players' views to him?

cause i have yet to see a single response...


Of course Chedburn doesn't believe 'that 3 months is plenty of time to get prepared' for the rapine and harvest of a HOF SuperStat Faction. This is simply more blatant misstatment in furtherance of Chedburn's huge miscalculation that those who had opted for Peaceful Factions could be shamed, or 'pshawed' from their disgruntlement at the 91 Day Nerfing.

Even the most casual Chedburn historian knows that trivialization of serious player dissatisfaction or injury is a prime pony in Ched's administrative Carousel.

For obvious reasons, the Chedburn apologists and Ched-wheedles will attempt to confer absolution upon Ched regardless of his complicity. Nonetheless, Ched is much more responsible for the overwhelmingly SuperStat biased updates than the apologists suggest. Even though many of the recent updates seem more the creatures of Grima Wormtongue HOF admins than Cheburn's genetic brainchildren, ultimately only Chedburn can take the responsiblity for putting an end to the Grima Wormtongues' influence.


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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 07:15:27
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By juju_man [157018]
but if it is true that ched doesn't play the game, then i can see how he came up with 'peaceful status removed' and the '3 months is plenty of time to get prepared' ideas...

does ched read any of these anyway, or he asks his self-serving staff to pass on the players' views to him?

cause i have yet to see a single response...


Of course Chedburn doesn't believe 'that 3 months is plenty of time to get prepared' for the rapine and harvest of a HOF SuperStat Faction. This is simply more blatant misstatment in furtherance of Chedburn's huge miscalculation that those who had opted for Peaceful Factions could be shamed, or 'pshawed' from their disgruntlement at the 91 Day Nerfing.

Even the most casual Chedburn historian knows that trivialization of serious player dissatisfaction or injury is a prime pony in Ched's administrative Carousel.

For obvious reasons, the Chedburn apologists and Ched-wheedles will attempt to confer absolution upon Ched regardless of his complicity. Nonetheless, Ched is much more responsible for the overwhelmingly SuperStat biased updates than the apologists suggest. Even though many of the recent updates seem more the creatures of Grima Wormtongue HOF admins than Cheburn's genetic brainchildren, ultimately only Chedburn can take the responsiblity for putting an end to the Grima Wormtongues' influence.


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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 07:55:55
No how could this happen I don't want my faction to be killed. help us we can't train enough to be ready. They will take everything we built. Why did this happen? Can't someone do something? I am not happy to hear this news.

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 08:44:16
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We wanted to give factions the choice⦠To be peaceful or aggressive, this however did not work. With 800 factions created, 4 of those chose to be aggressive.

The issue we were faced with... what would happen in 6 months? All factions but one would inevitably end up peaceful, destroying the whole point of factions. It is supposed to be a dangerous world; the decisions you make are supposed to affect you, positively or negatively to create meaningful play. The change was by no means influenced by any other factions or people.

Three months is a long time, a long time to get all of your faction members ready to protect themselves, build up a respect buffer from OCs and gain allies. The three months, by the way, started for all factions yesterday, so you all have the same amount of time to get ready. And of course, with the new 50 faction war base limit it should make things really interesting. Just because your faction was destroyed last time, it doesn‚t mean the same will happen this time‚¶ We‚re even giving you 3 months to get prepared.

Over these three months, more things will change. For example, OC respect gain may be upped including the adding of additional OCs and an easier system to plan and initiate them. Small disadvantages may be added to higher factions attacking lower factions. At this current moment in time, if a level 40 attacked a level 10, the respect gain is decreased because of the level gap, we may raise the decrease further until we are perfectly happy with the system.

I realise the peaceful status change may have came as a shock, but try to think of it as a new beginning, a chance for you to prove yourself without having to have the nanny that you call ‚peaceful status‚.

Thank you.




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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 09:18:43
This means of course that every single new faction will be killed after those 90 days. Their only purpose is to be farmed by the big established factions.

I promise this:
1. When my factions 90 days are over, I will delete it.
2. Until factions will have the option to stay peaceful, I will vote every day... on the second game on the list.

Unlike chedburn, I will keep my promises. I am a man of honor!

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:16:51
just delete faction on 90 days and stop donating if u are a donator

the only weak point in today world of a person is money when that stops coming he breaks down no matter what are the consequences

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:45:35
I just don't see the 90-91 day deletion as actually happening...

I can see the intent and sincerity of those stating that they are going to do it...

But I think the human animal is simply hard-wired against this being a likely turn of events...

Not enough people seem to be grasping that after 90 days, so physically simple an act as to press the delete faction button will have the powerful reality of association, habituation AND the natural human survival instinct against it. Lots of second-guessing and optimism will have crept into the thinking of the current 'Delete in 90 Days' Thinkers in the month and especially week before Day 91.

..."Maybe we can stay beneath Their radar..." Some will hope...

..."They have nearly 800 other choices..." Still others will think. "They can't war EVERYONE..."

Do not believe that the idea of resolving the Nerfing of Peaceful Faction Status can be moved to the far-off Event Horizon of Day 90 or 91. The resolution needs to be much, MUCH sooner if it's to be at all.

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 13:06:46
I have already informed my members that the faction will be deleted after 90 days.
The factions that aren't deleted will be killed off anyway and I doubt they will be creating new ones.

It's like giving birth to a child and say; after 90 days you are fit to fight Mike Tyson. That is not what I call war.

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 13:09:22
Unforchinitly the mass slaughter quickly approaching us only benefits the warmongers. So therefor those hoping to stay under the radar it won't be long till your in the cross hairs. I am not upgrading or anything as of yet till I know if the problem is going to be fixed or left for Ched's babies in DV and others to slaughter. I'll kick every member empty the faction completely hit delete and fly away. After that everything goes to my sister. Plain and simple. I'd love to be able to make the faction much grander and I have the money to do it. Slowly but I could do it. I just simply refuse and I know I won't stay under the radar. Why? because I still believe all those warmongers that pick on newbies will always be that. Human assholes that make my horse's butt look good.


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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 15:25:43
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15 mil gone thanks ched

$50 i was scammed out of also.


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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 15:32:02
As I look through those who replied to this post I don't think I've come across one person who wasn't in a peaceful faction.

To those who are in a peaceful faction answer this: Why do you want a faction?

If you want one to store money.. or to make friends in the game start a company.

What Chedburn is doing is fair for FACTIONS.

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 15:36:45
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To those who are in a peaceful faction answer this: Why do you want a faction?


Because we were given the choice to start a peaceful faction...

Try to keep up with the conversation before jumping in and making a fool of yourself. If you want some notes about what has been happening, feel free to ask...

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 16:10:19
Just because you're hurt by peaceful factions going bye-bye you don't have to take out your anger on me.

However, you're answer "Because we were given the choice to start a peaceful faction" wasn't exactly an answer to why you want to even start a faction.

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 16:15:19
In my time I have owned and been in many warring factions, and to be honest I grew bored with the whole chaining thing, so I stopped being in them...

We were offered a chance to have peaceful factions so I bought one. If I had known that this would only last a short while, I wouldn't have bothered.

That is why people are annoyed...

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 16:19:06
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Just because you're hurt by peaceful factions going bye-bye you don't have to take out your anger on me.

However, you're answer "Because we were given the choice to start a peaceful faction" wasn't exactly an answer to why you want to even start a faction.


It was the perfect answer, actually. The reasons why people want peaceful factions are varied. Quite frankly, it's no one else's business. We were told we could have them. We believed what we were told. We bought a faction when we would not have done so without that promise. That is what this whole issue is about.

The line about buying a company is old. Companies are nothing but money-sucking blackholes without even the benefit of a real forum.

If you are in an aggressive faction and happy with it, fine. But please don't knock those who are rightfully upset about being lied to.



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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 16:43:17
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As I look through those who replied to this post I don't think I've come across one person who wasn't in a peaceful faction.

To those who are in a peaceful faction answer this: Why do you want a faction?

If you want one to store money.. or to make friends in the game start a company.

What Chedburn is doing is fair for FACTIONS.


No it isn't, first off most companys arn't profitable for a long time, they dont have forums, or much in the way of social interfaction, and they dont give xp like OC's will.

This is not fair at all to factions



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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 17:28:28
after 90 days, i'll wait for some unfortunate HOF faction to war me, then we'll all leave, and i'll put some noob whos quit the game in charge, and I will recreate the faction.

that wastes one of their 50 wars


just to make a point ;D

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 17:42:07
Mistakes were made and now they're being fixed. That's it. You weren't lied to like you think you were. It was simply a mistake. A mistake that would have led to all peaceful factions and there's no fun in that. It's better they're fixing it now.

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 17:43:42
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In my time I have owned and been in many warring factions, and to be honest I grew bored with the whole chaining thing, so I stopped being in them...

We were offered a chance to have peaceful factions so I bought one. If I had known that this would only last a short while, I wouldn't have bothered.

That is why people are annoyed...


Here here Sweenye..some of us have played all kinds of aspects of this game...the warring factions with the A. D.D chaining requirements....the dogs...the racing...oh and the companies..which I am still trying to master but from what I can tell is ALSO created for Drug Laiden Stat whores...anyways..the "peaceful" status seemed like a nice way to go...also It would have given some of us veterans a place to hang out and train some of the newbies of the game so that they could go on to warring factions...you cant do that kind of training from a company....so to those that cant understand why you would want a peaceful faction...well the above is why I wanted one...



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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 17:44:07
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Mistakes were made and now they're being fixed. That's it. You weren't lied to like you think you were. It was simply a mistake. A mistake that would have led to all peaceful factions and there's no fun in that. It's better they're fixing it now.


so you admit they made a mistake. I admit i'd like a refund.


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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 17:45:45
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Mistakes were made and now they're being fixed. That's it. You weren't lied to like you think you were. It was simply a mistake. A mistake that would have led to all peaceful factions and there's no fun in that. It's better they're fixing it now.


Yes we were lied to, there was no mention of removal of peaceful status, no mention of 3 month peaceful, only that unless you attacked someone you would be peaceful.

Also you must be brain dead if you think this is a good thing for anyone but superstat HOF factions with admins, they are doing this so they can do respect farming with no actual effort. This staff abuse needs to end.

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