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Posted on Thu Mar 13, 2008 22:01:47
awful update. i just got a faction too. will get destroyed by lamers in about 3 months.

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Posted on Thu Mar 13, 2008 23:20:36
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If you want a peaceful faction, don't fight. If you want to fight, then there are other factions that want to fight.

It is that damn simple! People will fight when they get ready to! Don't fight people that don't want to fight! This is the best suggestion I have seen.

If you want or do not want war, then put on your factions profile:

Now accepting wars or not accepting wars.


This simply does not work... Factions will attack them anyways...



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Posted on Thu Mar 13, 2008 23:34:56
i said this would happen on the first day peacefull factions where created but you people dont look at who runs the game, ched doesnt run the game, hes like a company owner does nothing knows nothing. its people from dv and jfk who do things like this. really did you actually think ched made peacefull factions to help low lv people. hes done nothing but luagh and screw over non hof people time and time again. you only got yourself to blame for wasteing money on factions, any person who has half a brain knows that tc revolves arouinf hof, and people like me are cannon fodder. ive been banned twice for disagreeing with hof, ive been harrassed countless times, with no action being takeing lueky bear said hed ban me if i file another complaint against dv, what a surprise eh. unless your dv you might as well quit this game or just train forever there is nothing for us left then the retarded staff warring admins running the game. cheating as well, but oh well noones gonna stop them just like there harrassment goes unpunished.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 00:59:09
By Aerol_al_Coret [467696]
By PiKapp520 [533954]
If you want a peaceful faction, don't fight. If you want to fight, then there are other factions that want to fight.

It is that damn simple! People will fight when they get ready to! Don't fight people that don't want to fight! This is the best suggestion I have seen.

If you want or do not want war, then put on your factions profile:

Now accepting wars or not accepting wars.


This simply does not work... Factions will attack them anyways...



It might work with certain factions, but not for most of the HOF factions

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 02:07:43
Join the TC wide protest agains ched by copying my forum sig (below remove the stars), just stop voting and getting DP's.

Without peaceful status this game is worthless.
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Don't be THAT guy that hates the change but is not willing to make the sacrafice of less energy. If we do not take action then nothing will ever change.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 02:19:25
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By Aerol_al_Coret [467696]
By PiKapp520 [533954]
If you want a peaceful faction, don't fight. If you want to fight, then there are other factions that want to fight.

It is that damn simple! People will fight when they get ready to! Don't fight people that don't want to fight! This is the best suggestion I have seen.

If you want or do not want war, then put on your factions profile:

Now accepting wars or not accepting wars.


This simply does not work... Factions will attack them anyways...



It might work with certain factions, but not for most of the HOF factions


When a faction declares on you there are only 2 options you can take. Fight or surender, Fighting a HOF faction is useless when all your memebers are lvl 20 and under. Ive been there and done that. The only choice a low lvl peacefull or waring faction has against the HOF is paying the extortion surender fee. last time it happened to us it was 10 mil.
And how does a bunch of newbies in a faction get 10 mil for this surender? Donator Packs thats how. Now take that extortion and tripple it in one day and you've either killed the faction or raked in a whole lot of cash in DP's for Chedburn.
This game is nothing more then a money racket. They already cleaned our pockets forming the peaceful factions and now they want to get more by forcing us out of peaceful and having to face the HOF factions.
I will continue to play but never again Donate. If the fation I'm in dies out because of this update I'll just wait till i'm ready to join a waring faction before I join a faction.


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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 02:45:03
All I want to see is for you ched to give my wife her peaceful faction back. You can screw with me but when you screw with her then your going to know I am out here.

If implement something and then turn around and renege on it that can be looked at as stealing! My wife says it is stealing and if she feels that way then you need to set this right I am sure from what I have read many more feel this way as well.


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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 02:55:51
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All I want to see is for you ched to give my wife her peaceful faction back. You can screw with me but when you screw with her then your going to know I am out here.

If implement something and then turn around and renege on it that can be looked at as stealing! My wife says it is stealing and if she feels that way then you need to set this right I am sure from what I have read many more feel this way as well.


100% Agree!


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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 04:47:04
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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 05:50:49
By Rock_BB_House [1017]
All I want to see is for you ched to give my wife her peaceful faction back. You can screw with me but when you screw with her then your going to know I am out here.

If implement something and then turn around and renege on it that can be looked at as stealing! My wife says it is stealing and if she feels that way then you need to set this right I am sure from what I have read many more feel this way as well.


it is a complete and total rip off!!! If you went to a store and bought a big screen high def TV, you would expect it to be in color, as 99.999999% of all TV's are this day, you would settle for a black and white big screen. If you went to a car dealer and bought a Mercedes, you wouldnt take a Honda when you took delivery! Why should ppl who bought a peaceful faction settle for one that changes in 90 days??? Does your TV or car change in 90 days??? If it does, you have a major gripe with the maker dont you? And, yes, u take them to court and demand ur money back, same as you can all go to paypal and demand your money back, cause ur NOT getting what you paid for!!

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 06:35:39
Fine I think this whole thing was planned out in the begining and I say all 800 new factions should just eliminate themselves then lets see how great the big factions are when they have no choice to pick on each other and not bully the low factions. This whole thing was about peaceful factions just proves once again people cant trust a word chedburn and staff says because they change their minds like most people change underwear.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 06:38:49
It actually is stealing... but with no formal contract ched feels he can do what he pleases.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 07:04:15

@ Rock... I completely agree

The longer Ched goes w/out addresses this the more I think it was planned. I would bet a TON of cash that Ched has a second account that he plays with, and I bet he happens to be a member of DV.

Bring back the peace or you are going to lose money and players!!!

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 07:11:26
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By Rock_BB_House [1017]
All I want to see is for you ched to give my wife her peaceful faction back. You can screw with me but when you screw with her then your going to know I am out here.

If implement something and then turn around and renege on it that can be looked at as stealing! My wife says it is stealing and if she feels that way then you need to set this right I am sure from what I have read many more feel this way as well.


it is a complete and total rip off!!! If you went to a store and bought a big screen high def TV, you would expect it to be in color, as 99.999999% of all TV's are this day, you would settle for a black and white big screen. If you went to a car dealer and bought a Mercedes, you wouldnt take a Honda when you took delivery! Why should ppl who bought a peaceful faction settle for one that changes in 90 days??? Does your TV or car change in 90 days??? If it does, you have a major gripe with the maker dont you? And, yes, u take them to court and demand ur money back, same as you can all go to paypal and demand your money back, cause ur NOT getting what you paid for!!


It is theft, and I hope everyone that bought DPs DO go to paypal and complain to get their money back..This issue we NOT go away. Doesn't matter how long he avoids this thread.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 09:34:15
just remember folks, its not ched who makes the game, its us that does. if it wasnt for us, by way of dp's /playing / voting / word of mouth, ched would be sitting there twiddling his thumbs. it appears so obvious that the vast majority of people wanted this peaceful faction, because mainly were fed up with this war system which either needs to be changed or left with the choice of peacefull or aggressive. i don't understand why he would give the option and then take it away. it was clearly stated by him that you could be either or. then try and excuse it, because for some reason its better for the game / hof factions if everyones at war. more like someones pocket it seems.

I think the majority of users on here that would like to keep peacefull and agressive as choice know what they have to do and that is ....

Keep posting
stop voting (fyi, u can click the link and not have to vote to get the points, just close the vote window after it opens)
stop spending RL $ buying dp's
kill the 796 factions that wanted and paid to be peacefull
help spread the word.

anyways its not to say there cant be war, just the fact that it allows people to choose which way they want to go in the game, and if a vast majority want to be peaceful, either due to a lacking equality type war system or just to make a place for friends to meet and do o/c's then it should be up to them. something shouldn't be implemeted and then after be taken away because it doesn't work for the few.

anyways just my 2 cents

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 09:54:52
I really really really really hate to say that I will delete my peaceful faction, but if it turns aggressive automatically and we get declared on by all the usual HOF suspects then it will be deleted.

I bought a peaceful faction because ched said I would be allowed to remain in a peaceful faction. Now he says I am not allowed to remain in a peaceful faction.

Sorry HOF dudes, but its just gonna be deleted if you declare. The money isnt all that much to me, but the lie that I could have a peaceful faction is. 800 people bought factions and now you have 796 that are angry. All in the belief that what we read coming from the owner of the game is true.

The little boy cried wolf once too often.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 09:57:11
alas most of the newbies arent reading the updates a lot so new factions continue to be formed daily

the cash register is ringing non stop for the owner of the game

this is an official rip off by the persons who have made this update

good job keep it up

rip off the newbies and just keep deleting threads which are against this lol

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:08:00
i want to get in a faction

i never give up

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:23:45
They also feel by saying nothing this thread will just die away. They don't realize we are on a 91 day countdown to destruction.

Then again if you a HoF faction your on a 91 day count down to a FEAST.

And i am sure ched knows it and set it up this way


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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:58:23
By Rock_BB_House [1017]
They also feel by saying nothing this thread will just die away. They don't realize we are on a 91 day countdown to destruction.

Then again if you a HoF faction your on a 91 day count down to a FEAST.

And i am sure ched knows it and set it up this way


Well said Rock. How many of us will be first on the war list? I am betting within ten min of our of peace we all are.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 13:56:33
should have said this when applying the peaceful status!

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 14:24:30
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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 14:42:04
Hmmmm, thats odd, the guys in that protest pic ALSO look like they may be soldiers of an oppressing dictatorship

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 15:15:41
14/03/08
3:08:58 PM Sub7 mugged you and stole $957 from your wallet.
14/03/08
11:57:17 AM Phegasus attacked you and hospitalized you.
14/03/08
8:36:56 AM TheViper mugged you but could not find any cash.
14/03/08
3:08:56 AM dtedizkiller mugged you but could not find any cash.
14/03/08
2:09 AM Phegasus attacked you and you stalemated
14/03/08
2:09 AM Phegasus attacked you and you stalemated
13/03/08
3:44:21 AM Someone mugged you and stole $28,098 from your wallet.
12/03/08
9:24:35 PM Someone attacked you and hospitalized you.

People don't like me protesting, they are all too young to have been in a low level warring faction, or high enough to support removing peace lol


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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 15:46:57
There are a few solutions to resolve this removal of peaceful mode. The solutions are as follow:

1) Go to PAYPAL and ask for your money back!
2) DELETE the faction soon as any HOF declared on you!
3) If your faction happens to have any FED-jailed player and HOF declared on you, just transfer the leadership to that guy and all quit!
4) QUIT the game in all!
5) VOTE by clicking on the link that says: "You have been tricked to get here."
6) KEEP posting in the forum, if still no reply why not SEND A PERSONAL MAIL to the mighty CHED!
7)............. the list goes on...

But I am sure that this post of mine will be deleted again like some of my posts had been in past few days.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 16:01:37
Well said everyone. Keep it coming. Keep it coming..:|

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 16:07:03
By DrK-mAgIcIaN-kT [430360]
There are a few solutions to resolve this removal of peaceful mode. The solutions are as follow:

1) Go to PAYPAL and ask for your money back!
2) DELETE the faction soon as any HOF declared on you!
3) If your faction happens to have any FED-jailed player and HOF declared on you, just transfer the leadership to that guy and all quit!
4) QUIT the game in all!
5) VOTE by clicking on the link that says: "You have been tricked to get here."
6) KEEP posting in the forum, if still no reply why not SEND A PERSONAL MAIL to the mighty CHED!
7)............. the list goes on...

But I am sure that this post of mine will be deleted again like some of my posts had been in past few days.


This is an open forum started by the owner, nothing should be deleted just like the other thread should not have been deleted. In fact when a thread is started unless some gross rule is broken then there shouldnât be forum banning. But at this point at least that has not happened. Because if they did that they would just be doing it to shut players up.

This is an atrocity against the players of TC. If you have ever had a problem for any reason then now is the time to stand. Now is the time to band together as one force. I have been to fed jail a couple of times for creating. Nothing I did comes close to this no where near it. So where is the justice? And its an easy fix nothing has happened yet CHANGE OUR FACTIONS BACK TO PERMINENET PEACE, unless the leader want to start a war that is MUAHAHAAAAaaa.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 16:21:24
OK everybody here's the new strategy.
When the 91 days countdown is over, we all war the HOF factions with our new factions with only one man left in the faction. You guys should have realized about the war base limit of 50 factions. Ched said it would be interesting with 50 factions war base limit. What else they can do when their war base is filled with one man factions.
With 800 new factions, it's more than enought to fill these bullies' war bases.
Then we ask them for the surrender fee. If they don't pay us, they dont get to play.
Eventually, ched either gives us peace or he's gonna be in big trouble.
It's really gonna be interesting.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 16:27:10
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OK everybody here's the new strategy.
When the 91 days countdown is over, we all war the HOF factions with our new factions with only one man left in the faction. You guys should have realized about the war base limit of 50 factions. Ched said it would be interesting with 50 factions war base limit. What else they can do when their war base is filled with one man factions.
With 800 new factions, it's more than enought to fill these bullies' war bases.
Then we ask them for the surrender fee. If they don't pay us, they dont get to play.
Eventually, ched either gives us peace or he's gonna be in big trouble.
It's really gonna be interesting.


this won't work buddy... the limit of 50 is on the side where HOF is doing the declaration! not being declared. they can be declared by 100000000000 yet they can still declare 50 of their choice. so by doing so you will only fuel them. however, u brought up a good point as once you are being declared get just 1 low lvl1 player and don't accept the surrender from them will work cuz that will crowd their warbase and they can't declare on new factions... BUT THEN again if that problem persist, i m sure that there will be another update that unleash the limit of warbase or worse... another new upgrade in the faction where u can buy instant end of war with your respect. like you steadfast upgrade and other... u have to pay like 10k respect to have that option in ur faction... then take away same number of respect as the one u want to end war with instantly. just watch. this is my prediction.

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Posted on Fri Mar 14, 2008 16:43:24
Most of you will recall that I strongly spoke out against Peaceful Status Factions at their inception. I flatly stated I was convinced they would somehow later be perverted into HOF Faction respect feeder farms. I was right, as it turns out.

Nonetheless I STRONGLY agree with your disgruntlement that you have been Duped. I am however not convinced that Chedburn deliberately cheated anyone. My opinion of Chedburn has long been that lacking a reliable moral compass, he is simply incapable of intrinsically knowing the 'right thing to do'...and that when Chedburn makes decisions that are stupid on a staggeringly gargantuan scale (such as the ones to offer THEN hamstring peaceful factions), Chedburn's primary motivators are the Two Deadly Sins of Greed and/or Sloth. And in this case, exactly in the order of Greed then Sloth.

In this later instance of nerfing the Peaceful Factions, I believe that Chedburn is more motivated by Sloth. And I say that because I don't believe the reversal was done by Chedburn to 'dupe players of their Peaceful Faction investments', but rather so that he might avoid conflict with and possible work slow-down of influential Administrators, who are not coincidently also members of HOF SuperStat Factions.

I think that so long as we have Admins who are members of HOF SuperStat Factions...Game adjudication and rule creation will increasing favor HOF SuperStat Factions. I believe that we have CLEARLY seen this with the rise of Devastation.

The irony here of course is, that instead of the 'Devastation' of TC factions that Devastation had so clearly intended its name to stand for, they are NOW KNOWN for the Devastation of Game Integrity that has resulted from the rule influence of HOF Warring Admins.

We will only CONTINUE to see wrong-doing of this recent magnitude so long as Admins are allowed to belong to TC HOF SuperStat Factions.




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