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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 19:26:55
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As for the chain counter there is very good reason for the necessity for it to be reset, as well as the necessity for all current faction wars to be deleted. Neither of these things were considered lightly.


"Today, the Justice Department did issue a... a blanket alert. It was in recognition of a general threat we received. Uh, this is not the first time the Justice Department have acted like this. I hope it's the last. But given the attitude of the evildoers, it may not be."

See the similarity?

Obviously if Bush can get away with such speech and providing no reason, TC staff has nothing to worry.

My view towards deleting best chains is like with everything else - compensate people, fair n square. Not just HOF or PT, obviously, they're not the only ones that worked hard for that. You think it was easy for a small faction to get 10 ppl online a do a best chain of 60, w/o being able to afford refills? Im sure they take pride in their hits, now its gonna be taken away. Compensate them.

Everyone else that sees this as whining, I say once again - tommorow something YOU worked hard for may get deleted cuz Bush err, Ched thinks its necessary. If you have any brains, you will take a stand now or you will be all alone when that time comes.



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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 19:48:58
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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 19:50:27
I agree that if you are truly going to lose something it is important to take a stand, but what are you really going to lose by the chain counter being reset?
Your not losing any respect so your refills and time wasn't wasted.
So your name is no longer sitting at the top of the HoF for biggest chain. How does that really benefit you?
Once its all said and done your chain still occurred and your only going to miss an official record that it had occurred.
Take a screen shot Post it on your factions profile and move on.

Save the complaints for the real issues! That way when the complaints come TC Admins won't be numb.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 20:00:55
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I agree that if you are truly going to lose something it is important to take a stand, but what are you really going to lose by the chain counter being reset?
Your not losing any respect so your refills and time wasn't wasted.
So your name is no longer sitting at the top of the HoF for biggest chain. How does that really benefit you?
Once its all said and done your chain still occurred and your only going to miss an official record that it had occurred.
Take a screen shot Post it on your factions profile and move on.

Save the complaints for the real issues! That way when the complaints come TC Admins won't be numb.


great point
its such a minor issue!

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 20:11:30
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By Thrie [148961]
I agree that if you are truly going to lose something it is important to take a stand, but what are you really going to lose by the chain counter being reset?
Your not losing any respect so your refills and time wasn't wasted.
So your name is no longer sitting at the top of the HoF for biggest chain. How does that really benefit you?
Once its all said and done your chain still occurred and your only going to miss an official record that it had occurred.
Take a screen shot Post it on your factions profile and move on.

Save the complaints for the real issues! That way when the complaints come TC Admins won't be numb.


great point
its such a minor issue!
You're right.

Here's an idea: reset all busts! Nothing will be lost except a number, you'll still have your exp. I'm sure people wouldn't mind this, right? It's just a number!

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 20:15:01
By Thrie [148961]
I agree that if you are truly going to lose something it is important to take a stand, but what are you really going to lose by the chain counter being reset?
Your not losing any respect so your refills and time wasn't wasted.
So your name is no longer sitting at the top of the HoF for biggest chain. How does that really benefit you?
Once its all said and done your chain still occurred and your only going to miss an official record that it had occurred.
Take a screen shot Post it on your factions profile and move on.

Save the complaints for the real issues! That way when the complaints come TC Admins won't be numb.


Such flawed logic. Everything is just a number in this game. Lets say they take away houses tommorow. Like Ched just says its necessary cuz of the evildoers...

And then i use your logic: but what are you losing? You're not losing any stats you gained while you were in that house so your refills and energy arent wasted. You wont have that property tag next to your name anymore, but once its all said and done you still had your property and your only going to miss an official record that you had it.

It cost us all money, both properties and best chains. Both took our energy and produced something in return. Like everything else in this game. It simply bottles down to what do you care for more. Obviously, even tho we in VV have never been big on big chains I do understand those that have and I fully support them cuz I do understand how much time, energy, effort and money it took to pull them off, and to just erase that is horrible. And the least that can be done is to compensate.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 20:16:12
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Some factions that are in the HoF of Best Chain today won't have the opportunity to arrange a new chain that would place them again in that HoF, i feel sorry for those factions, because they worked hard for that place in HoF.

I'm PT and chained in HoF Best Chain chains (omg, so many words with chain, this will be difficult to read ) and i belive that PT factions are the ones that have the best resources, money and members, to be able to get to Top Best Chain again.

So if the reset of the HoF is really necessary, then just do it, just think about the factions that won't have the opportunity to show that once they were good and made into Best Chain HoF.

This is my opinion as a TC player.


Yeah gms, Think a little bit about this. In my opinion this is unfair for 90% of TC factions.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 20:18:39
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By Thrie [148961]
I agree that if you are truly going to lose something it is important to take a stand, but what are you really going to lose by the chain counter being reset?
Your not losing any respect so your refills and time wasn't wasted.
So your name is no longer sitting at the top of the HoF for biggest chain. How does that really benefit you?
Once its all said and done your chain still occurred and your only going to miss an official record that it had occurred.
Take a screen shot Post it on your factions profile and move on.

Save the complaints for the real issues! That way when the complaints come TC Admins won't be numb.


great point
its such a minor issue!
You're right.

Here's an idea: reset all busts! Nothing will be lost except a number, you'll still have your exp. I'm sure people wouldn't mind this, right? It's just a number!


YES IT IS RIGHT COMGIN FROM SOMEONE WITH THE #2 SPOT!
its not the same as busts at all, because its a counter record. not a running total. you can beat your best chain over and over, busts takes a running total of your busts

stop being such asshats over this

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 20:20:21
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Some factions that are in the HoF of Best Chain today won't have the opportunity to arrange a new chain that would place them again in that HoF, i feel sorry for those factions, because they worked hard for that place in HoF.

I'm PT and chained in HoF Best Chain chains (omg, so many words with chain, this will be difficult to read ) and i belive that PT factions are the ones that have the best resources, money and members, to be able to get to Top Best Chain again.

So if the reset of the HoF is really necessary, then just do it, just think about the factions that won't have the opportunity to show that once they were good and made into Best Chain HoF.

This is my opinion as a TC player.


Yeah gms, Think a little bit about this. In my opinion this is unfair for 90% of TC factions.


thank god its only few members of PT who havent got their heads screwed on today

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 20:20:37
Ok I'll sign a petition to have Ched to create a memorial in the HoF, That way Your name will live for infamy.




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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 20:42:32
I like this update in all but most people don't like it. It won't effect me but i think that we should ditch it.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 21:14:57
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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 21:27:13
By -Clansdancer [65306]
Before you guys start bitching

Try to remember a couple things

A. Believe it or not there is more to factions then just the HOF.

B. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little.

So just wait and see.


before you guys start gloating, believe it or not updates thus far have been half arsed jobs that have made little to no difference in the game, sometimes what you expect is NOT what is recieved.

good luck on 12, you'll need it.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 21:48:16
no, correct me if im wrong, isnt best chain a recent addition?

and like everyone has said, there has been no-one from DA,DV,HT,39th whining about it. they accept it. and deal with it.



grow the f**k up PT. seriously.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 21:51:57
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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 21:54:15
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no, correct me if im wrong, isnt best chain a recent addition?

and like everyone has said, there has been no-one from DA,DV,HT,39th whining about it. they accept it. and deal with it.



grow the f**k up PT. seriously.


NO ... only the best chain HOF

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 22:07:59
You keep the respect you gained

The HOF Best chain is as good as a screenshot anyway

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 22:23:15
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no, correct me if im wrong, isnt best chain a recent addition?

and like everyone has said, there has been no-one from DA,DV,HT,39th whining about it. they accept it. and deal with it.



grow the f**k up PT. seriously.


We have no other choice other than moving on. But, mark my words, when you get screwed with some update i will be the one to say "grow the f**k up! get over it!", and believe me, if you stay long enough it will happen! Looking not far back: HT got screwed because of a respect cap not being removed; def whores got screwed since stales now take energy. Then we have the bank merits issue, the "big crash".

I'm not trying to say who got screwed the most or anything, but we worked to get our factions up in HOF, it was our goal. Now there is no more HOF. We just feel it was a waste and yes, we know that despite it's not displayed we will always have the #1 best chain, pre-reset!

Records exist to be beaten and since this on will be gone we need to start working on another one! ^^

Just so you know PT had 6 faction in HOF, which is doable again in 6 weeks. After the 12th we will climb our way to the top again!

btw, get a faction and then you can criticize all you want

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 22:29:47
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By Thrie [148961]
I agree that if you are truly going to lose something it is important to take a stand, but what are you really going to lose by the chain counter being reset?
Your not losing any respect so your refills and time wasn't wasted.
So your name is no longer sitting at the top of the HoF for biggest chain. How does that really benefit you?
Once its all said and done your chain still occurred and your only going to miss an official record that it had occurred.
Take a screen shot Post it on your factions profile and move on.

Save the complaints for the real issues! That way when the complaints come TC Admins won't be numb.


great point
its such a minor issue!
You're right.

Here's an idea: reset all busts! Nothing will be lost except a number, you'll still have your exp. I'm sure people wouldn't mind this, right? It's just a number!


Admins, why u didnt reset the Most Wanted and the Busts section! Its just a nember and xp still there. That's fair.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 22:34:16
lmfao
PT just dont quit

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 22:53:22
PT have the right to argue, just like all players do in TC.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 23:04:28
oh absoloutely, i agree, just i think this is a pointless argument, which imo needed to be dropped 100 or so posts ago. i also have the right to argue back storm

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 23:07:11
Argue about the reset, not about us...
This is what about this topic...



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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 23:15:39
Kinda sad to see some of the biggest chains going byebye. But nice updates Ched =]

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 23:19:25
i just want to know this.. if HT and DV was to stay on top, whats the point of even playing? what are people trying to gain when those 2 factions just cant be beaten and always remain on top, its like they have won the game, its pointless trying to beat them so what are factions aiming for now they cant be number 1or 2 for that matter? I used HT and DV as they was 2 top factions. p.s cheeky replies welcomed.


Edited by: -bush- on 07/02/08 at 10:18:35 AM

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 23:21:55
what i was saying was that biggest chains are not the same sort of record as ANYTHING else in TC. a new chain is created 3-4 times a week for an average warring faction. Big chains happen once every month? im saying it wont be long until you do another one. BUSTS, STATS, LEVELS, CRIMES, are different!
theyre running totals of events in TC, it takes a lifetime in TC to build them up, longest chains are single events, that are recorded, you can continually beat the record and create a new one, the comparisons some have used here are insanely dissimilar. surely you can see that?
i understand it takes resources to create these, and you have multiple factions with decent chain records, but the MAIN point of these chains was to gain respect, not the record. the respect taken is the most imporant thing and you KNOW that.

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Posted on Wed Feb 06, 2008 23:39:17
By Vatican [99178]i understand it takes resources to create these, and you have multiple factions with decent chain records, but the MAIN point of these chains was to gain respect, not the record. the respect taken is the most imporant thing and you KNOW that.


Really?

"Topic: 2 Destructive Anomaly Best Chain: 2,318
Wow we've set a new personal record again!

That was a mega day and I can safely say we are proud and grateful of our members, and all our guests."

Not a mention of respect gained in that celebration thread. Or...

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Does it say "Participant of DA 6-7000 respect gained chain"? Im only guessing here cuz i got no clue what you guys gained...

We all gain respect every day, by OC's, by random hits, by chains and what else not. Best chain is exactly what it says - a best chain, and its not something that was done lightly by ANY faction. Hell I can keep on quoting DA members and chainers from that thread that repeat how hard it was to pull it off and how much beer and naked women you deserve after it

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2008 00:38:12
I agree with you z_junior.





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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2008 00:41:29
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By Vatican [99178]i understand it takes resources to create these, and you have multiple factions with decent chain records, but the MAIN point of these chains was to gain respect, not the record. the respect taken is the most imporant thing and you KNOW that.


Really?

"Topic: 2 Destructive Anomaly Best Chain: 2,318
Wow we've set a new personal record again!

That was a mega day and I can safely say we are proud and grateful of our members, and all our guests."

Not a mention of respect gained in that celebration thread. Or...

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Does it say "Participant of DA 6-7000 respect gained chain"? Im only guessing here cuz i got no clue what you guys gained...

We all gain respect every day, by OC's, by random hits, by chains and what else not. Best chain is exactly what it says - a best chain, and its not something that was done lightly by ANY faction. Hell I can keep on quoting DA members and chainers from that thread that repeat how hard it was to pull it off and how much beer and naked women you deserve after it


Thats very nice

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2008 00:48:16
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By Vatican [99178]i understand it takes resources to create these, and you have multiple factions with decent chain records, but the MAIN point of these chains was to gain respect, not the record. the respect taken is the most imporant thing and you KNOW that.


Really?

"Topic: 2 Destructive Anomaly Best Chain: 2,318
Wow we've set a new personal record again!

That was a mega day and I can safely say we are proud and grateful of our members, and all our guests."

Not a mention of respect gained in that celebration thread. Or...

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Does it say "Participant of DA 6-7000 respect gained chain"? Im only guessing here cuz i got no clue what you guys gained...

We all gain respect every day, by OC's, by random hits, by chains and what else not. Best chain is exactly what it says - a best chain, and its not something that was done lightly by ANY faction. Hell I can keep on quoting DA members and chainers from that thread that repeat how hard it was to pull it off and how much beer and naked women you deserve after it


lol, alright, yeah.
let me completely change my argument...
best chain is always set for you to beat your best. go beat it, and quit whining

better z?

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