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Thread created on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:34:14
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Okay, the beta testing of the new faction changes ran smoothly but we felt we could do better... a different approach.

We have removed the current faction changes but left in the overnight chaining update.

We feel we can do better, to better effect everyone positively. Of course, theres probably no way to completely make the change positive for the HOF factions (they will have less targets) but we can find a way to make the blow softer, so it hopefully won't effect them much at all.

Design stages for a new change will complete some time soon. Just some way to keep as many people as possible, happy. We have many ideas, if you have any ideas you would like to put forward, please use the suggestions forum.

Thanks.


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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:34:44
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Edited by: wolfeh on 05/02/08 at 3:37:57 PM

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:35:03
Excellent, Mikk will stop crying in his cornflakes now lol.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:35:03
YES

HALLELUJAH!
AWESOME CHED
I ACTUALLY AM IN LOVE

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:35:16
Well just maybe slow the increase in respect in chains

Since you can chain for longer now

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:35:13
Read Leuky's suggestion! It's the best one by far.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:35:35
nice !
keep it up

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:36:06
I liked seeing all the HoFers getting their feathers ruffled

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:37:06
Doesnt beta testing imply you test it before releasing instead of just releasing a hairbrained idea without consulting anyone who plays the game?

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:37:07
Better have the TC professionals into this before shotting the update in the face.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:37:14
Hehe, had to edit to take his post out sorry.


Edited by: wolfeh on 05/02/08 at 3:41:43 PM

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:38:25
:)
Sounds... ok.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:38:38
:)

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:38:55
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Edited by: wolfeh on 05/02/08 at 3:37:57 PM


You continue to beat NikkisPimp on the ground. When his face is smashed in you decide he has had enough and jog home.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:39:27
oh you bully hehe.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:39:56
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oh you bully hehe.


don't want to waste my vico
Wasn't chaining...had to do something to use it.

Now I can use it again

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:40:10

Well, we could have seen this coming. Never ever anyone who was disadvanged after an update got it reversed in TC. Remember Hunting "upgrade" anyone.o_O

But I guess to many "honest and objective" playing admins wear affected by this.

Did someone mentioned a Staff Strike if this wasn't reversed, like those hollywood peops?
Correct...;)

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:40:46
Same update but to level, not respect.

If a level 40 attack a level 10 then the respect is 4 times lower then a level 40 attack a 40 level.

Or make a formula that involves level, offences, days, something like that to make it fair!

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:41:40
hmm good luck finding a solution. Having been in both a hof and a lowly faction there is a huge split in intrest. What is best for a hof faction ISNT what is good for a lowly one. And at the moment there is almost no point to being in a lowly faction except to be warred (and extorted) by a hof faction.

Any changed to help out the lowly factions put the hof ones at a disadvantage. Leave it like it is and the lowly ones suffer.

Theres no middle ground really.

Like I said... Good luck.


Edited by: Lady_Luck on 05/02/08 at 3:43:17 PM

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:41:51
Yay Yue!

And MANY thanks Ched!

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:42:22
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Same update but to level, not respect.

If a level 40 attack a level 10 then the respect is 4 times lower then a level 40 attack a 40 level.

Or make a formula that involves level, offences, days, something like that to make it fair!


That is already how it works. Attacking lower levels will always gain less respect.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:43:17
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By Lilah [368091]
Same update but to level, not respect.

If a level 40 attack a level 10 then the respect is 4 times lower then a level 40 attack a 40 level.

Or make a formula that involves level, offences, days, something like that to make it fair!


That is already how it works. Attacking lower levels will always gain less respect.


Or none at all.


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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:45:12
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Same update but to level, not respect.

If a level 40 attack a level 10 then the respect is 4 times lower then a level 40 attack a 40 level.

Or make a formula that involves level, offences, days, something like that to make it fair!


Can i get an ALELUIA for this

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:45:16
There has to be a middle of the road.

We cannot continue to allow the lowly factions to be destroyed at the rate they are. There has to be some kind of assurance they can survive.

On that note we cannot cut the big guys out and totally cripple them from doing anything.

There is a middle of the road and it might take a bit to get there. We will though.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:46:28
Leuky's idea has the most merit of any i've seen so far.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:47:19
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There has to be a middle of the road.

We cannot continue to allow the lowly factions to be destroyed at the rate they are. There has to be some kind of assurance they can survive.

On that note we cannot cut the big guys out and totally cripple them from doing anything.

There is a middle of the road and it might take a bit to get there. We will though.


Sure hope so

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:48:13
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Same update but to level, not respect.

If a level 40 attack a level 10 then the respect is 4 times lower then a level 40 attack a 40 level.

Or make a formula that involves level, offences, days, something like that to make it fair!


That is already how it works. Attacking lower levels will always gain less respect.


Yes, i know.

My suggestion was to make it more efficient. If the respect gain is not worthed that the high levels won't hit low levels.

The respect has nothing to do with it, imagine two factions, both with 20 to 30 level members, but one with 5000 respect and the other with 1000, why should the one that try harder be penalized if it's hitting someone of the same size?

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:51:57
the problem can be solved if u find a usage of respect..then hof cant complain..

either use the respect for the advantage...or face the penalty problems

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:52:23
Its better to take a step back so you can give two step forward next... for this you have my respect.

But i must tell ... next time in issues like this why not test it first with the help of some factions/members and only if works like its pretended steping forward?

Also on issues that afect the TC game role i think that members shoud be consulted so they can give opinion on one matter.

I think its time to respect old school players that have done so much for this game and have passed some bad moments in the start. Not like today that almost anyone can have a company, a faction, nice weapons, nice house and some $ in bank account without much trouble.

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:52:49
http://www.torncity.com/forums.php?forumID=9&ID=2269030

Please dont debate the suggestions in this thread.

I have made you guys a stickie in faction talk go there and express your views and what you want to see update and how.

:)

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Posted on Tue Feb 05, 2008 15:54:05
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There has to be a middle of the road.

We cannot continue to allow the lowly factions to be destroyed at the rate they are. There has to be some kind of assurance they can survive.

On that note we cannot cut the big guys out and totally cripple them from doing anything.

There is a middle of the road and it might take a bit to get there. We will though.


#1 Give a meaning to respect
#2 Go to #1

After that everything becomes easier. Right now any changes in chaining wont affect 90% of the people because they simply have no reason to fight. Thus the style of the fight is of no interest to them. If they have a reason to fight, then we can discuss the best techniques to do it and implement them.

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