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Posted on Wed Jun 16, 2010 18:56:23
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Why have someone as your co-leader if you don't trust them in the first place? And you don't even have to assign a co-leader.



Trust? How can anyone trust anyone anymore? I have had to eliminate a co-leader from my faction but surely there is a better fix. Pretty hard running a 100 person faction when you arent very active, I can only imagine how hard it will be once the faction changes happen

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


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Posted on Wed Jun 16, 2010 18:59:24
By Wall_Street [984129]
By -Passie- [936578]
Why have someone as your co-leader if you don't trust them in the first place? And you don't even have to assign a co-leader.



Trust? How can anyone trust anyone anymore? I have had to eliminate a co-leader from my faction but surely there is a better fix. Pretty hard running a 100 person faction when you arent very active, I can only imagine how hard it will be once the faction changes happen


Can I be your new co-leader?

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Posted on Wed Jun 16, 2010 19:04:44
this doesn't seem very joined up with the big new 'revitalise factions' update is all

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Posted on Wed Jun 16, 2010 20:45:48
By Wall_Street [984129]
By -Passie- [936578]
Why have someone as your co-leader if you don't trust them in the first place? And you don't even have to assign a co-leader.



Trust? How can anyone trust anyone anymore? I have had to eliminate a co-leader from my faction but surely there is a better fix. Pretty hard running a 100 person faction when you arent very active, I can only imagine how hard it will be once the faction changes happen


sadly this was me

who got demoted..

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Rick_Diculous

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 00:04:47
How long until we get the announcement saying staff can scam?

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 00:50:58
By Wall_Street [984129]
How long until we get the announcement saying staff can scam?


How long until the whining stops?

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 01:41:16
By Wall_Street [984129]
By -Passie- [936578]
Why have someone as your co-leader if you don't trust them in the first place? And you don't even have to assign a co-leader.



Trust? How can anyone trust anyone anymore? I have had to eliminate a co-leader from my faction but surely there is a better fix. Pretty hard running a 100 person faction when you arent very active, I can only imagine how hard it will be once the faction changes happen


I still have people in my faction with access to the cash etc , we have a close nit faction and have earnt each others trust over the past few hundred days. Surely there are other factions that have trust in some of their members, if not, the warring will be ruined


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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 01:54:31
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By Wall_Street [984129]
By -Passie- [936578]
Why have someone as your co-leader if you don't trust them in the first place? And you don't even have to assign a co-leader.



Trust? How can anyone trust anyone anymore? I have had to eliminate a co-leader from my faction but surely there is a better fix. Pretty hard running a 100 person faction when you arent very active, I can only imagine how hard it will be once the faction changes happen


I still have people in my faction with access to the cash etc , we have a close nit faction and have earnt each others trust over the past few hundred days. Surely there are other factions that have trust in some of their members, if not, the warring will be ruined


I have a bunch of people in my faction that I semi trust, but sometimes I move large amounts of cash through my faction and greed does funny things to good people sometimes.

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 01:59:51
THIS RULE WILL TEAR FACTIONS APART... SO THE FACTIONS THAT HAVE THE MOST TRUST AND ARE ORGANIZED PRETTY GOOD SHOULDNT HAVE A PROBLEM..


But now that people know. They wont get in Trouble or Federal . its gonna happen . be careful....

and have fun:|

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 07:18:49
BOO!!!!!!!

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:35:01
Comeon 41 more down rates!

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 13:08:34
By Wall_Street [984129]
By ShinNSt3r [528781]
By Wall_Street [984129]
By -Passie- [936578]
Why have someone as your co-leader if you don't trust them in the first place? And you don't even have to assign a co-leader.



Trust? How can anyone trust anyone anymore? I have had to eliminate a co-leader from my faction but surely there is a better fix. Pretty hard running a 100 person faction when you arent very active, I can only imagine how hard it will be once the faction changes happen


I still have people in my faction with access to the cash etc , we have a close nit faction and have earnt each others trust over the past few hundred days. Surely there are other factions that have trust in some of their members, if not, the warring will be ruined


I have a bunch of people in my faction that I semi trust, but sometimes I move large amounts of cash through my faction and greed does funny things to good people sometimes.


thats true, if i was keeping billions in mine then i may feel different

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 14:29:34
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh sd basterd

do I really need to create some flash image to impress you... no don't pressure me into something I'm not ready for
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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 14:52:35
By Wall_Street [984129]
How long until we get the announcement saying staff can scam?


Some staff seem to be in predatory mode already if there is any truth that Staff were counsulted by Sif or JustieR before the mugging began. If true Staff created a loop hole just for JusticeR and Sif if there is truth to what has been posted that 3 staff members were consulted before hand..

Any one who reads the rules can see it was an obvious violation of the rules. Bending words and loosely interpreting them is a poor excuse for justifying an obvious violation of the game rules. JMHO

So WallStreet what you suggest does not seem that far fetched to me.

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 16:25:26
wow federal jail your serious chedburn [dr. evil rules]

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 16:43:45
Awesome, I mean in a way where the game actually has almost no rules. ;D Well, not per say. But Im sure you know what I mean.

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Rick_Diculous

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 19:24:51
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By Wall_Street [984129]
How long until we get the announcement saying staff can scam?


Some staff seem to be in predatory mode already if there is any truth that Staff were counsulted by Sif or JustieR before the mugging began. If true Staff created a loop hole just for JusticeR and Sif if there is truth to what has been posted that 3 staff members were consulted before hand..

Any one who reads the rules can see it was an obvious violation of the rules. Bending words and loosely interpreting them is a poor excuse for justifying an obvious violation of the game rules. JMHO

So WallStreet what you suggest does not seem that far fetched to me.


Wait a minute. Staff were consulted before the mugging? How in the **** was there not enough evidence to A)fed JusticeR immediately or B)fed Sif?

I think you must be wrong that staff were consulted beforehand, otherwise there is MUCH more to this story

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 19:45:05
By Wall_Street [984129]
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By Wall_Street [984129]
How long until we get the announcement saying staff can scam?


Some staff seem to be in predatory mode already if there is any truth that Staff were counsulted by Sif or JustieR before the mugging began. If true Staff created a loop hole just for JusticeR and Sif if there is truth to what has been posted that 3 staff members were consulted before hand..

Any one who reads the rules can see it was an obvious violation of the rules. Bending words and loosely interpreting them is a poor excuse for justifying an obvious violation of the game rules. JMHO

So WallStreet what you suggest does not seem that far fetched to me.


Wait a minute. Staff were consulted before the mugging? How in the **** was there not enough evidence to A)fed JusticeR immediately or B)fed Sif?

I think you must be wrong that staff were consulted beforehand, otherwise there is MUCH more to this story


I never made the allegation....I read it in the forums. I guess the people to ask are Sif and JusticeR if there is any truth to that post...I wished I had saved a link to it..

All staff has to do is kill that allegation by saying it wasn't true...A simple solution.

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Posted on Thu Jun 17, 2010 20:36:47
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Staff will be removing any affiliation with faction scamming. They will not step forward in any way. If a co-leader steals the faction bank, staff will not jail anyone and will not credit anyone.

This will start on the 12th of June. Please make sure you fully trust everyone who has access to your faction bank. We're giving you this week to prepare.

Please note, currently anyone who steals from a faction will receive a federal jail sentence, until the 12th of June.

These steps have been put in to action for many reasons. Mainly:

We do not take any action against company scamming, why factions?
The huge difficulty staff go through to resolve these issues.
The instant by-passing of warnings.
The inability to determine who owns the money.
The loopholes around this rule.

The deterrents should be player-made. If someone steals from you, you make them pay yourself.

Many thanks.


dont think people are pleased with the rating

join my Bazaar Group, its called Drug-Medical Service -
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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 03:23:26
Who says that anyone can trust their faction leader? People can dump millions or billions into their faction and the leader can decide if he/she wants it all for him/herself. They can sit back, watch that bank build, take it all and leave.

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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 05:17:52
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Who says that anyone can trust their faction leader? People can dump millions or billions into their faction and the leader can decide if he/she wants it all for him/herself. They can sit back, watch that bank build, take it all and leave.


The Lady sure know what she is talking about....true story.

And never play the game again!

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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 06:03:58
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Who says that anyone can trust their faction leader? People can dump millions or billions into their faction and the leader can decide if he/she wants it all for him/herself. They can sit back, watch that bank build, take it all and leave.


why leave when you can simply kick?! I mean it sure looks easier to me that way

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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 07:24:07
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Wait a minute. Staff were consulted before the mugging? How in the **** was there not enough evidence to A)fed JusticeR immediately or B)fed Sif?

I think you must be wrong that staff were consulted beforehand, otherwise there is MUCH more to this story

No I think they asked Staff, and the staff said that it was ok, because it technically wasn't covered by the rule.
That's why there was the whole fiasco in the first place.

That's what I've gleaned of the forums anyway.

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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 13:32:25
scamming is not good

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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 14:05:15
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Who says that anyone can trust their faction leader? People can dump millions or billions into their faction and the leader can decide if he/she wants it all for him/herself. They can sit back, watch that bank build, take it all and leave.


why leave when you can simply kick?! I mean it sure looks easier to me that way


Yeah, or just kick them all.

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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 22:08:54

Kicked everyone from our faction we didn't trust ... Just three of us left now ... Problem solved



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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 22:15:21
i've told with frosty , that's not a bad update , but ched has to write more
we can't be scammed , or if you don't know your leader ...
if i want , i can scam my players , but i don't will
that's respects between players (i say with billions)
some players was friends .. and we can trust him
tell all my friends , i think taliking same as me

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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 22:34:46
I think the best is to say ' if your faction leader want scam you , he can now' that's just this update , i've wanting to leave this game with this update ..Ched , made more comprehensive mail in forum ... i think many off all think all can borrow money from faction for free
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Posted on Fri Jun 18, 2010 22:52:18
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Posted on Sat Jun 19, 2010 18:02:42
This sucks, we should have more staff!

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