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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 06:11:05
yes ..... its correct..... Sif already snt the money back and i guess Valesh has been credited with full amount which he lost in that faction theft

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:41:22
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so let me see if I got this straight...

-Valesh was credited the money back but Sifonjer didn't have to give back the amount that he mugged even though it was his scam?

-JusticeR got a slap on the wrist with only a 30 fed sentence even though he was charged with $90B of faction theft

-Valesh had to deal with this entire fiasco because someone in a staff position knew about this ahead of time and said that Sifonjer's faction theft scheme was legitimate

And because of this incident the rest of torn now has to deal with faction theft being legal...


don't forget all the great players that saw this outrage for what it was, and demanded that staff stop hiding behind the lamest excuse in TC staff excuse history.

well actually, not sure about that. Would make for an interesting discussion, right up until blondie or wicked princess graveyard it with the lamest reason in all of tc staff forum moderation history...

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 14:09:24
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so let me see if I got this straight...

-Valesh was credited the money back but Sifonjer didn't have to give back the amount that he mugged even though it was his scam?

-JusticeR got a slap on the wrist with only a 30 fed sentence even though he was charged with $90B of faction theft

-Valesh had to deal with this entire fiasco because someone in a staff position knew about this ahead of time and said that Sifonjer's faction theft scheme was legitimate

And because of this incident the rest of torn now has to deal with faction theft being legal...


don't forget all the great players that saw this outrage for what it was, and demanded that staff stop hiding behind the lamest excuse in TC staff excuse history.

well actually, not sure about that. Would make for an interesting discussion, right up until blondie or wicked princess graveyard it with the lamest reason in all of tc staff forum moderation history...


They do tend to do that to threads when they lose face or can't think of a snarly comment now don't they-lol.
But back on topic-I still don't think things have been made right even though Valesh and his faction have had their money returned. JusticeR should have had a much harsher sentence and faction theft should still be illegal.

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 15:27:02
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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 15:39:31
Well I'll guess we will find out tomorrow when the world of factions as we know it implodes into screams of scamming all over the forums.

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 16:04:59
There is going to be some epic crying tomorrow I say screw the people who are too lazy to read the announcements forum once in a while. The whiners will have had about a weeks notice to do something useful with their money

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 16:35:17
I am cool with it because it will give staff members a break and more on mutiple accounts

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 16:50:01
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There is going to be some epic crying tomorrow I say screw the people who are too lazy to read the announcements forum once in a while. The whiners will have had about a weeks notice to do something useful with their money


I guess that all old and thus rich players know about the update but I don't want to even think about how many noobs will loose their money...

There are very easy ways to fix this mess. I wonder why they don't code them or at least an announcement that they will.

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 17:23:24
I will willingly monitor scamming and faction theft if I was given the chance
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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 17:48:38
Here's an idea, just create a personal vault that can hold an unlimited amount of cash instead of having people hide their own money in factions, companies, or with actual trustworthy friend, obviously a large vault that holds only 500 mill is not enough for a lot of players in torn, no one but the owner of the vault has access to it and would help eliminate faction/company thefts/scams. just an idea and a thought

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 17:53:28
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Here's an idea, just create a personal vault that can hold an unlimited amount of cash instead of having people hide their own money in factions, companies, or with actual trustworthy friend, obviously a large vault that holds only 500 mill is not enough for a lot of players in torn, no one but the owner of the vault has access to it and would help eliminate faction/company thefts/scams. just an idea and a thought


this is a nice idea... might be must be bought by some points? let say worth for 500points,,,?

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 17:58:51
it would have be be obviously more than the normal large vault, but say like 500 mill, the cost of a private island, and you would have to own a private island to have one, and would have to be done with normal upgrades of property, no points

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 18:58:55
my lucky
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2:32 AM You found the item Dumbbells while walking around the city!

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 20:15:29
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my lucky
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2:32 AM You found the item Dumbbells while walking around the city!


wtf does this have to do with the topic?

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 20:18:30
lvl 1 with no awareness upgrade whatsoever showing off stupidly their luck

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 21:14:26
By Silent_One05 [329899]
Here's an idea, just create a personal vault that can hold an unlimited amount of cash instead of having people hide their own money in factions, companies, or with actual trustworthy friend, obviously a large vault that holds only 500 mill is not enough for a lot of players in torn, no one but the owner of the vault has access to it and would help eliminate faction/company thefts/scams. just an idea and a thought


Terrible idea as it would take away one of the funnest parts of the game-mugging And no I am not a mugger, but rather someone who constantly gets mugged.

I think all the complaining is a tad bit premature. Ched has proven to be more mature and thoughtful over the last few months. He is far from an idiot and therefore I would be shocked if he changes the rules without first implementing some sort of safeguards for faction owners

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 21:24:38
it's just an idea, nothing more, if it happens then fine, if people don't want their money mugged,scammed, or whatever you want to call it from their faction or company, then the unlimited vault would be a great idea, but we all have our own opinions

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 21:30:49
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By Silent_One05 [329899]
Here's an idea, just create a personal vault that can hold an unlimited amount of cash instead of having people hide their own money in factions, companies, or with actual trustworthy friend, obviously a large vault that holds only 500 mill is not enough for a lot of players in torn, no one but the owner of the vault has access to it and would help eliminate faction/company thefts/scams. just an idea and a thought


Terrible idea as it would take away one of the funnest parts of the game-mugging And no I am not a mugger, but rather someone who constantly gets mugged.


Agreed.And if there was this vault people wouldnt buy house vaults and then we would have more money in the economy...



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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 21:37:14
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it would have be be obviously more than the normal large vault, but say like 500 mill, the cost of a private island, and you would have to own a private island to have one, and would have to be done with normal upgrades of property, no points


as my second post on the idea states, read above

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 21:38:01
so it's not a secondary vault, it's a standard upgrade for private islands only

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 21:43:54
But it shoudlnt be unlimited then

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 21:52:19
why not, if you have billions of dollars in company or faction, with the situation of scamming, wouldn't you rather have a vault with unlimited holdings so you wouldn't have to worry about losing it

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 22:01:10
The vault could be bigger but should be always limited.In real life could you have a room with infinite space to store cash?Dont think so...

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 22:03:42
true, very true, but this is a game, so anything is possible, or limit it to 100 billion to 500 billion, is that better for you

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 22:05:12
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true, very true, but this is a game, so anything is possible, or limit it to 100 billion to 500 billion, is that better for you


Now that would be a good idea...though the price to buy these huge vaults should be huge aswell



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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 22:14:44
I d prefer to have 'personal vaults' in factions that you can only take out as much as you put in instead of unlimited house vaults. That way we force some facton activity

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 22:25:23
that is a good idea too, on top of house vault, you also have an actual faction vault that is yours as well, but how high of a limit of cash will be able to put in it

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Posted on Fri Jun 11, 2010 23:42:22
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Well I'll guess we will find out tomorrow when the world of factions as we know it implodes into screams of scamming all over the forums.


Tomorrow it WON'T be scamming.....lol
I can't say I'm thrilled with this update but I guess I can understand it. We should be responsible for our own actions and who we give access to money in the factions will and should come back on our shoulders.
And at least we were ALL given plenty of warning.

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Posted on Sat Jun 12, 2010 00:26:55
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Well I'll guess we will find out tomorrow when the world of factions as we know it implodes into screams of scamming all over the forums.


Tomorrow it WON'T be scamming.....lol
I can't say I'm thrilled with this update but I guess I can understand it. We should be responsible for our own actions and who we give access to money in the factions will and should come back on our shoulders.
And at least we were ALL given plenty of warning.




Your right about that Daisy....now if Ched would make it possible to do as he says we should...The deterrents should be player-made. If someone steals from you, you make them pay yourself.
Which at the present time all you can do is irritate the scammers and nothing more....and I think most of them rather like the attention so it isn't at all a deterrent...and actually just cost you more dollars to do that...


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Posted on Sat Jun 12, 2010 00:48:28
Staff Edit : Clansy is watching you

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