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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 02:56:17
By Kartemest [353787]
I don't think I like the idea of faction beeing almost immortal much: I lost the first faction I joined and a couple faction I created, but the risk, and having to destroy other people factions, made the game interesting.


The problem is that ched is doing a balancing act trying to make everybody happy. This latest proposal seems to be a pretty good idea because factions will be able to put a bit of hurt on each other without any major hurt, while at the same time shutting up those who complain about having their boring factions deleted.

All they will be able to complain about is being hospitalized, and that's a non-complaint because this is an attack game. If you don't like being attacked, you really really need to play a game that doesn't involve attacking.

Sorry guys, but that's the way of it. Can't complain about being attacked or hospitalized if you want to play torn. If being hospitalized is a problem, might I suggest one of those games young girls play where they put makeup on the latest girl celebs to help them find their dream boyfriends?

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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 03:20:31
Why always changing rules?.
I do visit forums, go everywhere, and never understand a better way to earn money but chaining, so now in a peaceful one, there will be no task for thinking how to make $$$.

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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 04:10:11
I am rather tired of waiting on this update...Lets get this thing rolling and war everyone...I dont care

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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 05:12:31
We were waiting for this for a long time. Seems this change will make all the sleepy factions active and alive. Big or small every faction should get benefits from this new change.

We need this change soon:@

Thanks chedburn


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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 05:57:10
Sounds good in theory but larger more powerful factions will always figure out a way to pick on smaller factions. My vote would be to allow some way for factions to "test the waters" , allowing them to stay in peaceful mode for a while, and allowing them to gradually move into warring mode.

If the changes go as planned, it sounds like a great plan.

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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 06:45:18
when the hell is the upgrade coming up?

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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 07:17:54
will u marry me

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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 07:26:33
Despite the many colorful suggestions as to why Peaceful Faction members don't want Peaceful Status removed, it's not because Peaceful Faction members-

1. Wear Dresses, Skirts, Blouses, Purses, Panties, etc.
2. Over-menstruate (as suggested by Ninja and those of such ilk).
3. Plan and/or attend Slumber Parties, Tea Parties, Baby Showers.
4. Play with dolls.
5. Throw out their dummies and toys from the pram, crib, etc.

- That they object to any change removing Peaceful Status. It's because Peaceful Faction members tend to play Torn City on a more 'compartmentalized' basis than do members of Aggressive Factions. Peaceful Faction members are typically people who play the game on a more insular or 'individualized' basis and have less time (and generally less desire) to play Torn City with the sort of 'social networking focus' necessary to wage war effectively. Despite the many blithe arguments as to the minimal time requirement that Chedburn's proposed warring system will require, Peaceful Faction members remain highly skeptical because warring in the Torn City thus far has been a time and RESOURCE consumptive activity.

It's been remarked (accurately, I believe) that Peaceful Faction members in general do not wish to work as hard as Aggressive Faction members. Recognizing the generally lesser amount of time and energy that Peaceful Faction members spend on and in Torn City, it seems logical that they seek to avoid a game direction that steers them steadily towards the more intensive social networking, reconnaissance, spying, and email (and now chat window) communication warring tends to bring. Another practical reality of warring is that one logs in much more frequently to white Hospital screens. As many Peaceful Faction members have the generally lower resources commensurate with their lesser playing duration and intensity, frequent white screens can be financially insurmountable- the player simply cannot afford the medical items necessary to 'syringe-out' of the Hospital. Thus far, the generally lesser resources of Peaceful Faction members has brought the jackass bray demand that they should 'get off their asses and do something about it'. Tellingly, the wellspring of such wardog cathexis assumes that at some basic level Peaceful Faction members WISH to invest this sort of time and intensity into Torn City.

The typical elite players of Torn City are very vocal members of Aggressive Factions. I think only a fool questions that the 'best' and strongest players in Torn City TEND to be members of Aggressive Factions. That being said, the majority of players in Torn City are neither Asgardian-level elite players nor are they members of Aggressive Factions. Nor is the typical Torn City player particularly vocal. For a variety of reasons that include ennui and fear of retaliation, most Peaceful Faction members avoid posting on such controversial subjects as systemic Warring change. Yet if one cares to pay attention, the will and choice of the Silent Majority of Torn City players over the last few years has been Peaceful Faction Affiliation. A legion of wardogs barking in unison, hosping any who dare to speak out against being forced into Aggressive Status, will matter little as the Multitudes of Torn City players silently begin their Inevitable Exodus back to Faction Unaffiliated, rather than be forced into warring status that they DO NOT DESIRE.

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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 12:40:14
Nice..........................................................................................................................But I dont understand............................................................................................

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Posted on Mon May 31, 2010 18:02:22
Nice post silence. As a member of a peaceful faction I have to agree with you. But I am ready for war its been a couple years of being peaceful for me. But at the same time I do not log in much and cannot be counted on for when I need to chain another faction. Real life stuff=#1. Torn City=doesn't really matter.

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Posted on Tue Jun 01, 2010 05:13:50
i want to see a page where you can look at the respect/hits stats from ended wars a faction was in

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Posted on Tue Jun 01, 2010 15:28:33
the Silence, you have written a great post. I agree with you.

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Posted on Tue Jun 01, 2010 18:36:07
Peaceful status

With this system, there is no need for it at all. You don't have to war anyone if you don't want to. Big factions who pick on you, will gain very little, and you will lose even less. It's impossible for your faction to die unless the opposing faction is willing to go out of it's way for weeks, at no benefit to itself, just to kill it."
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Does this mean you will be getting rid of peaceful status? You don't specify, you say there's no point in it, but will it actually be removed from the game?


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Posted on Wed Jun 02, 2010 03:51:43
I think there should be a new faction design so it doesnt just have the name, image, respect and specials, naps, then description i think it should all look more interesting and not just going down.

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Posted on Wed Jun 02, 2010 07:49:00
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On that note............

Kill, kill, veins in my teeth.




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Posted on Wed Jun 02, 2010 08:01:20
If it ain't broke you'll break it.

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Posted on Thu Jun 03, 2010 02:15:55
I dont like it i want to build my stats and dont want to war right off i hate this update...cant rebuild if the peaceful is removed

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Posted on Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:56:29
bumped and rated+++

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Posted on Thu Jun 03, 2010 13:54:18
[b][/b] not good:s

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Posted on Thu Jun 03, 2010 21:27:49
That sounds amazeing


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Posted on Thu Jun 03, 2010 21:55:42
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I personally think that peaceful status should remain as an option to all who wants to be in peaceful factions. Some people just hate to watch at white screen and not being able to do anything else in TC while in hospital, except reading forums.
From the other side aggressive factions should be given much more reasons to exist. I mean on more respect gain while chaining and much better gain from special upgrades and some more advantages that could make peaceful factions actually wish to become aggressive and enjoy the benefits.


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Posted on Thu Jun 03, 2010 22:57:46
i love that idea

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Posted on Fri Jun 04, 2010 09:02:11
When will it happen?

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Posted on Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:47:53
Noo.
Let people choose what they want.

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Posted on Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:55:52
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Noo.
Let people choose what they want.


They already have.

I agree (5868 votes)
I disagree (815 votes)
Opt out (476 votes)

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Posted on Sat Jun 05, 2010 15:33:37
seems like this update is taking forever....wish it would just happen since the votes are basically in..


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Posted on Sat Jun 05, 2010 15:36:20
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Peaceful status

With this system, there is no need for it at all. You don't have to war anyone if you don't want to. Big factions who pick on you, will gain very little, and you will lose even less. It's impossible for your faction to die unless the opposing faction is willing to go out of it's way for weeks, at no benefit to itself, just to kill it."
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Yes


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Posted on Sat Jun 05, 2010 16:12:19
cool

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Posted on Sat Jun 05, 2010 21:23:51
now thats sounds awesome ched

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Posted on Sun Jun 06, 2010 02:24:31
can sombody mail me this question.

when will this take effect

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