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Hotshots

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 21:59:29
What gets me is that this thread is an exact copy of what was on general discussion. So many people posted exploits, reasons it wont work, and wow Ched didnt listen to any of it.
No vote from me, and -ve rating.
The whole point in posting on general discussion was to get feedback and change the setup slighly. Seems to me like a hell of a lot of people wasted their time replying, when none of the suggestions made are being taken into account.

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 22:07:26
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Okay, i'm one of the 2% as you mentioned who love long chains, but i'm willing to give anything a shot for the majority, though I do worry a great deal about how much respect decent respect factions can lose to factions like JFK, and 39th monthly that have insane stats and are simply unbeatable.

I still think there needs to be SOME kind of ranking system.


If anything this new system makes factions like them beatable.

There are ways to do it. You just have to be smart about it

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 22:17:20
Call 'em factions when they are aggressive and in war mode....

And fractions when they're not.

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 22:35:53
I dont care either way...just do it already.....xD

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 23:08:42
Thumbs up! Anything to make faction life less dull.

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 23:53:43
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quote "TORN?...I created it for a hobby, never for money" endquote

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Really?
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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 23:56:28
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You forget...What is popular does not count here... What the HOF warring factions want is what Ched cares most about....Always has....Peaceful is gone Like it or not....prepared to be slaughtered...there is gonna be a loophole and you arent gonna be safe at all....


Maybe you didnt read my post, but when you do, you will come to the conclusion that I voted against these changes. As I think most of my faction will do, or they wont vote at all.

Ched has a mind of his own, and when you think these changes are good for big warring factions, you, my poor lad, are very dillusional.

But hey... everybody likes a conspiracy theory. Maybe you can connect ched to the Vulcano eruption in Iceland too. I bet he orchestrated that to satisfy the HOF warring factions, so their victims couldnt fly to another country.


edit Spelling pwns me


Actually I don't think they are good for anyone...whether I read your post or not. I am sure lots of us will vote against.......
and its not conspiracy Its business...and its Cheds business and his living. ( so far over $ 1 mill worth too) ...I don't need a conspiracy theory....I just need to understand business theory to know what is coming and why.,.



quote "TORN?...I created it for a hobby, never for money" endquote

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Really?
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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 00:17:15
I only agree because the current system sucks ( sorry! ) . If it were up to me, I wouldn't change the reviving system.

But in the end it can't possibly be worse than the current system.

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 02:10:30
Most of these seem like good ideas.
HOPEFULLY it'll keep cowardly bastards who only pick on weaker factions in check.

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 02:25:58
By Hotshots [887289]
What gets me is that this thread is an exact copy of what was on general discussion. So many people posted exploits, reasons it wont work, and wow Ched didnt listen to any of it.
No vote from me, and -ve rating.
The whole point in posting on general discussion was to get feedback and change the setup slighly. Seems to me like a hell of a lot of people wasted their time replying, when none of the suggestions made are being taken into account.


At this current moment, 4016 players disagree with you. This post isn't for the discussion, its about the number of people that want the proposed system.


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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 02:54:03
Thanks for finally taking the time to listen to your active players when we begged for you to address factions and warring.

This update might just be the best update I have seen in my time playing the game. Unfortunately, I see room for abuse and exploiting this new system that might eventually lead to another set of updates or tweaking factions and warring once again.

Wouldn't it make more sense to address all of the reasonable concerns that players mentioned in the General Discussion thread before asking for us to participate in a poll?

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 02:58:03
By -Cindy- [747490]
Thanks for finally taking the time to listen to your active players when we begged for you to address factions and warring.

This update might just be the best update I have seen in my time playing the game. Unfortunately, I see room for abuse and exploiting this new system that might eventually lead to another set of updates or tweaking factions and warring once again.

Wouldn't it make more sense to address all of the reasonable concerns that players mentioned in the General Discussion thread before asking for us to participate in a poll?


^^This

But Ched did make a thread in General Discussion for people's input and he did respond to many people's responses. Hopefully that is what he is doing now is tweaking it so people cannot abuse it. We'll see this weekend (guessing):)

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 03:28:58
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By -Cindy- [747490]
Thanks for finally taking the time to listen to your active players when we begged for you to address factions and warring.

This update might just be the best update I have seen in my time playing the game. Unfortunately, I see room for abuse and exploiting this new system that might eventually lead to another set of updates or tweaking factions and warring once again.

Wouldn't it make more sense to address all of the reasonable concerns that players mentioned in the General Discussion thread before asking for us to participate in a poll?


^^This

But Ched did make a thread in General Discussion for people's input and he did respond to many people's responses. Hopefully that is what he is doing now is tweaking it so people cannot abuse it. We'll see this weekend (guessing):)


lets get one step ahead of ched and post how he can stop respect inflation....he mite as well start on the tweaking ...

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 03:42:10
i agree

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 04:07:16
sounds good i agree !

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 06:10:00
Lot of people sound pissed - well, therefore I am voting yes, cos a lot of you who don't like it probably voted for the stupid reset. This is my revenge!!

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 06:28:12
/me feels sorry for Foss thinking his opinion matters.



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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 07:18:51
Just remember, spending respect in the game, is like spending trust in real life Ched. That said, you said KILLING a faction would be rare, just dont piss off people. I dont believe it will be as rare as you think. There are many people, who will, JUST becouse they can. I have been in this game long enough to say there are some really GREAT people playing here, but there are also some REAL buttheads in this game!!! you know it, and so do I.
Limiting wars to 5. Ched, I think this is one of the best ideas you have had with this game!!! It shows the limits of manpower, and resources.
And last, you asked for ideas to spend respect on, I have one.
Keep peaceful for factions, and have them pay for it out of respect if they REALLY want it. The loss of respect, could represent the faction making a deal with law enforcement (dirty cops on the take) for protection. In real life, thats how it works, deal with cops/judges, lose respect, and maybe your life.

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 08:25:48
I like the sounds of this. *clicks I agree

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 08:52:56
sounds very good!

I am here to help any newbies.
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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 09:27:33
Lol everytime i see a another post from Staff someone says "Sounds Good"

And it does sound good

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 09:32:12
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sounds very good!


You dont have a clue wtf is that do you?

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 09:49:46
when does it take effect...... im waiting for yall to turn my faction aggressive........

DO IT SOON CHED>......

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 10:23:03
Well seems like a overall well thought out revamp of the current system which is apparent crap. The ranking system was an idea that could of worked yet pretty much failed. I was in a faction that went to war after the ranking system, we got destoryed by JFK, bamf, ninja, art of war. It wasnt fun. This is my thoughts on all the "omg i don't wana lose my peaceful status"

This system seems to cover all of the basis. It makes this game way more PVP friendly. Because right now you have to have millions of stat points in order to compete with the big factions who just end up eating up factions or faction leaders money for naps.

Perhaps to ease the worries of Faction leaders who do not want war or fear that war will destroy their faction for those people people do exist that will go out of their way to ruin some one else's day, something would be nice...

Like, You said a 1 month nap after a war is over. You also talked about a Claim Victory button, and mentioned once a Surrender button? So When this "ball" reaches the point of victory/defeat will both factions have the choice to end the war? Because the faction who didn't want to fight should be able to say yes yes you beat us up, now take your reward and leave us alone for a month. As that would take away 1/16th (is what you said) of their respect, So in 1 month they would easily get that back.

Also to prevent factions from having a monthly schedule perhaps put Dimishing Returns on this 1 month nap system. For example If you beat a faction and then 31 days later you re-wared them. Beat them up again, and then waited 1 more month to rinse and repeat. Have it so every time you war a faction the nap gets longer and longer. That is how i would add Dimishing Returns into the factor.

Also if dimishing returns has to end so if a faction waits so long after the nap to return to war the dimishing returns isnt affected, perhaps this can be determined by how long the war was....longer the war then shorten the DR. (Because from how i understand it if its a long war then they fought back and probably put up a fight). If it was a short war (they didn't fight back or got their asses hand to them) then make the DR longer.

This Dimishing Returns and Being able to Surrender to start the Nap would make it so Active peaceful seeking factions would have little chance of being griefed or disturbed.

Anyway just my thoughts, i have played alot of video games and i have helped put theory into a few that never got finished. Seems like a well thought out expansion of faction system. 2 Thumps up

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 11:26:51


The only thing in this plan that is not ok at all, is that the peaceful faction status is abolished.

I strongly support the idea that the choice for being peaceful should still be available.

As for the rest, the plan seems to be good.

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 11:43:39
luv new changess~

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 12:37:16
Great one! again!

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 12:41:39
mm gud idea

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 13:31:44
That sounds great

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Posted on Sat May 22, 2010 14:20:12
Im swayed to Agree might be fun

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