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DrUniverse

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 04:40:44
I really disagree with it. A lot of factions wage war so for surrender fees, this would make that totally useless because even a losing faction could keep gaining respect.

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 05:24:32
I quote Ched's announcement on May 23 2009 "Peaceful status no longer has 'days remaining'. Factions will stay in peaceful status until they want to change over." At least you peaceful guys had a year not to worry about seeing a white screen.

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Torch727

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 05:29:35
this is an awesome idea. get it going

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 06:23:01
why break something it not broke???

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ITSa341

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 07:19:16
will this be done before or after you finish the chat upgrade you started a while ago but still doesn't work well? If you plan to finish the chat first I would say it sounds interesting. If Not I will go with the same comment as my last few posts...finish what you already started first!!

If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. There's always time to do it right because there is never time to do it over.
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SuzumiyaHaruhi

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 07:19:52
hope that the OC's give actual benefits (like cash) to members who participate. that way we can avoid AWOL members who fly of into the sunset when the OC can be launched

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Moejoe

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 07:25:20
Sounds Brilliant!!!!

Now this will get everyone involved!!!

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Bishop

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 07:41:19
Great, its about time. I hope it comes out sooner rather than later.
Thanks
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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 08:08:10
Looks good im voting

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Canta

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 08:27:04
I am skeptical about being forced into a position where my faction can be warred on. I spent a heck of a lot of respect keeping my faction peaceful and a safe place for new players to train, only to have that wiped out with the last change of factions. I am finally getting my respect built up, and have not spent any of it on any faction upgrades, like steadfast, so that I either have to sacrifice my faction respect to get the upgrades for my faction, or I have to be warred on with no upgrades. Not really fair to take peaceful status away from those of us who have fought for it for so long. There are still major flaws in this system and they need to be thought through.

Not sure what the answer is, but I am getting disgusted with all the changes to make it so that the big factions have lots of little factions to prey on.

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G8tor
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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 08:38:53
By -Passie- [936578]
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By Wolf_Master [249532]
I love the ideas proposed here. Peaceful factions are afraid of spending a little time in the hospital. You need to give it a chance before you start crying. People whine for years to change things and when the changes are laid out, some want to complain without giving anything a chance. If you still want to act as a peaceful faction don't fight back, get your nap and actually be able to use your faction upgrades that have been sitting there useless. Surrender fees will become a thing of the past because you know once you have lost the war you will get a free nap.


that is why we are peaceful, to stay out of the wars and out of the hospital. i have been in warring factions and being in the hospital every time i log in is not fun, that is why i'm in a peaceful one now.



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Attacking
Attacks won: 11
Attacks lost: 4
Attacks stalemated: 0
Defends won: 1
Defends lost: 10
Defends stalemated: 0
Total respect gained: 0

You have never been in a war.



Back on topic:
I can't wait for the new changes. . It sure sounds like more fun


those stats do show what happen before the big crash, so yes i have

your age Age: 638 days
,y age 1788

you haven't been around to see what it was like in the pay or die era, so stfu noob


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Canta

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 08:40:05
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so for all thos people who've put millions and in some cases billions in to their peaceful faction for people who don't want to, or just don't have the time to war are going to have all their hardwork mangled by factions that have been warring for years, have considerably better stats and have the time to do massively long chains...

I can see a lot of people dumping factions or quitting playing torn all together..this has to be the worst idea you've had since the time you increased the happy cost in the gym so high that active people could not regenerate their happy bar....ever!

epic epic epic fail!


You obviously need to read the whole of the first post. But incase you're too lazy or too stupid i will add the key points for you...

Warring factions who don't fight back

Wars on factions who are not willing to fight back will be over very quickly. The losing faction will lose I think: 1 / 16th of their respect (because of the new warring system), and a NAP will be created between the factions once it's over.


So overall, stfu complaining as no previously peaceful faction is going to get wiped out, mangled and ruined. With the amount of available factions to war likely to be over 4900, the likeliness of being warred is slim.


I don't appreciate being called lazy or stupid, or being told the stfu. I agree with the original poster. Yes I see that you only lose 1/16 of your respect. But 16 factions war on you and you don't fight back and you are gone anyway. It is just another way to force peaceful factions to be war fodder for the bigger aggressive factions. I can see I will be thinking about leaving TC if this goes into effect.

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G8tor
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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 08:52:57
Good idea of putting the poll on the forum and not where it should be
West Side:
Voting booth

way to f**king fail there.

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LouieBoy

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 09:34:56
sadly:
too much confidence in the predictions of what 'will' happen
too many hopes disguised as rule changes
no explanation of why peaceful status can't exist alongside the new system

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marsh

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 09:46:45
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Well I like it.

Just 1 thing annoys me, all the noob, factions. and now it's harder to destroy them, bleh. I absolutely hate seeing a faction with 1-5 members in it all levels 1-5. I think we have an overload of factions currently.

I might just have to buy a whole lot and delete them manually.

Personally, I'd like to see a minimum level or age required to create or lead a faction.

Otherwise I welcome updates and changes you have proposed.


Minimum level or age is a good idea.

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 09:49:28
SOUNDS GOOD...

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PowerSlave

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 09:52:27
At last I'm gonna have some WAR..I quit warring since HT destroyed my tiny faction..

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 10:04:14
"The losing faction will lose I think: 1 / 16th of their respect"

come on ched, you only think? if you don't know how can the rest of us know?



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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 10:06:20
I see a couple of things against this proposal:

1: It's abuse prone. I see a future of paid 'respect farms', or even unpaid...
2. A chain per target / multiple chains at the same time... I don't see it. Just abolish the chain-idea altogether then. No use calling it a chain if the max you can reach is about 100.
3. This won't stop the faction with big-hitters preying on the factions with small members, on the contrary, it's beneficial to win a war as fast as possible, so you can move on to the next target, as you can only declare on 5 factions. The bonuses will make up for the meager respect gains.
4. Limits on reviving... Well.. let's make a setting only friends can attack us... or nobody, so we all can live together in peace, and never have to get upset about anything anymore in this game.

This proposal might solve a lot of problems with the current faction and warring system, but I think that after the initial surge in wars, it will soon be over with factions warring each other altogether. People will just sit in their factions, doing OCs to get respect and money and ignore the 5-10 factions who actually try to war in this system. Doesn;t matter if you get hosped once or twice, cause nobody can revive you, and after you read a couple of forum posts, their chain will be over.

I propose a rename for the game: HappyCity

We could make all new faction wars then... where respect isn't earned by hosping people, because that will upset them, but by giving them presents, like flowers and cookies.

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Elith

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 10:25:00
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We could make all new faction wars then... where respect isn't earned by hosping people, because that will upset them, but by giving them presents, like flowers and cookies.

That sounds great Off to the suggestions forum!

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 10:29:22
Personally I think it's a crap idea to loose faction respect if you get attacked I can see lots of people quitting ( possibly including me ) as if a faction is peceful then nothing should happen to the respect but if a faction is warrin then I think this I a good idea

If You Say Plz Because Its Shorter Than Please

I Will Say No Because Its Shorter Than yes.

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TheConvict

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 10:48:19
Nice ideas, waiting to see all of these in action

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KoJu

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 10:56:46
how 's pretty idea ?


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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 11:04:56
awesome changes !!


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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 11:30:15
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Well I like it.

Just 1 thing annoys me, all the noob, factions. and now it's harder to destroy them, bleh. I absolutely hate seeing a faction with 1-5 members in it all levels 1-5. I think we have an overload of factions currently.

I might just have to buy a whole lot and delete them manually.

Personally, I'd like to see a minimum level or age required to create or lead a faction.

Otherwise I welcome updates and changes you have proposed.


Minimum level or age is a good idea.



I agree with that



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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 11:40:44
If you do not want to fight or be in a war, then don't be in a faction. Isn't it as simple as that?

You can hang out with your fellow friends who think the same way as you in IRC or that little chatbox at the bottom right hand corner of your screen.

If factions weren't created to go to war with each other, then what the hell are they created for? To gather around the table, play some cards and drink a cup of coffee?


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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 11:50:26
keep peaceful factions.
war changes should be made! but dont force them on peaceful factions.
add war time limit - like 3 days. with in that time faction must achieve their goal.
there are ppl who aint online multiple hours a day. some are online once a day or less (but are dedicated players) so their faction has no change to survive.

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 11:56:53
Can I just ask.

If you can only be at war with a maximum of 5 factions, in theory you therefore need to unite 25 factions, all declare war on each other therefore locking out the opportunity of other factions declaring war upon them???

Basically in agreement rendering them all peaceful and untouchable??


Am I wrong?

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 12:14:06
sounds like it removes the incentive to be a powerful faction...

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Posted on Fri May 21, 2010 12:32:50
I don't wanna war with other factions

I will always be the 1337 Noob
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