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5hane
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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 18:40:51
All good, apart form :

Chaining

Chaining will be limited to the faction you're attacking. For example you could have several chains going on at once, with several different factions. There is no way to keep a chain constantly going, they will break at the end.



It will be too complicated to control if you have alot of memebers in one chain

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 18:54:57
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I have an addition.

Stealth attacks do not earn respect nor do they contribute to a chain as no one claims the attack.

To make full use of features like the retaliation bonus any stealth attacks should not be counted in a war.



Also... the fact smaller factions will give out more respect than large factions to me sounds absolutely crazy


Still the positives severely outweigh the negative (Yes, only 1 in my opinion).

I support this


stealth is part of the game, get over it


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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 19:02:21
I think this is a great idea, finally a way to end the dragging peaceful status. And besides, it would allow the faction bonuses (ie: Steadfast) to be on at all times. I'm not going to argue stat gain, nerve bonus, etc...

As to the worry there will be an over abundance of factions, with bonuses consistantly being active why would anyone immediately try to make a smaller helpless faction when there are likely hundreds of factions with bonuses already started.
Not to mention why bother with payout with the new "soon to be sexy" ball/line setup, once the line reaches the side it's over. If the faction isn't fighting back, that just ends the fight that much sooner.
At least that's how I understood it to work.



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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 19:03:17
great changes!

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 19:06:06
all these brilliant Changes and updates and Awesome. Finally nice on ched x

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 19:11:32
I personally like the ideas except this one:

Peaceful status

With this system, there is no need for it at all. You don't have to war anyone if you don't want to. Big factions who pick on you, will gain very little, and you will lose even less. It's impossible for your faction to die unless the opposing faction is willing to go out of it's way for weeks, at no benefit to itself, just to kill it.


Big factions who loses their Peaceful status will be attacked by other big factions. Then the members gets annoyed of hospitalizing and will eventually leave.
There will be no strong non-warring factions anymore. Only noobs and the most loyal members will stay. 100-member-upgrade again will be useless for the factions that are not warring.


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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 19:26:24
excellent

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 19:36:08
omg, how many years with this take? Another 10? With the current updates speed to implement 1/10th of these changes will take a minimum of 5 years.
Although it does sound good, many more things to do and I also prefer smaller chains to one big chain that can last for weeks. Hey if you can make it work in a short period of time then hell yeah I'm for it, I just hate the idea of waiting on it for years.

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 19:56:03
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omg, how many years with this take? Another 10? With the current updates speed to implement 1/10th of these changes will take a minimum of 5 years.
Although it does sound good, many more things to do and I also prefer smaller chains to one big chain that can last for weeks. Hey if you can make it work in a short period of time then hell yeah I'm for it, I just hate the idea of waiting on it for years.


I don't see why most of the mathes can't be done in a few days. It's not rocket science, you are not trying to calc grav pull of distant moons in a different galaxy.

I'm sure one of TC's finest can do the equation.

The rest is down to testing. Lets just see what the project timescale is.



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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 20:00:37
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omg, how many years with this take? Another 10? With the current updates speed to implement 1/10th of these changes will take a minimum of 5 years.
Although it does sound good, many more things to do and I also prefer smaller chains to one big chain that can last for weeks. Hey if you can make it work in a short period of time then hell yeah I'm for it, I just hate the idea of waiting on it for years.


I don't see why most of the mathes can't be done in a few days. It's not rocket science, you are not trying to calc grav pull of distant moons in a different galaxy.

I'm sure one of TC's finest can do the equation.

The rest is down to testing. Lets just see what the project timescale is.



Hm, if you think this can be done in a few days perhaps you should offer them your help. I'm sure with your "mathes" calculations we will be enjoying these updates before the end of the week.

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TheHeisenberg

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 20:02:45
I like it I hope to see the vote pass!

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 20:07:14
Sounds very good Ched!

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 20:14:22
Great one ched!:)

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 20:40:17
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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 13:38:20
What about factions of people that don't want to be in the hospital all the time and just want to hand out with old friends? We want peaceful I don't care if we need to pay half our respect out for it every few months.

if you dont want to fight dont join a faction,
hang out with your mates in the chatrooms with the other wannbe gangsters


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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 20:50:12
No strong feelings either way

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 20:51:05
Sweet.

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:03:02
I dont mind either ways, but sounds fair and vivid

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:03:45
Sounds alright. I skimmed some of it - but overall it looks all good!

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:13:09
Sounds greatt!

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:15:34
By kyle8048 [488020]
By Comando96 [749714]
I have an addition.

Stealth attacks do not earn respect nor do they contribute to a chain as no one claims the attack.

To make full use of features like the retaliation bonus any stealth attacks should not be counted in a war.


stealth is part of the game, get over it


I think is a good suggestion.. if your faction is warring another faction any stealth attack will not give any respect or contribute to the chain.



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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:17:08

I mostly love the ideas and my peaceful faction will be sure to start to fight.

However, whilst everyone gets used to the updates I suggest an option to set a faction that hasnt declared any wars as "silent" where for a limited time (like a month or two) the faction will loose far less respect if declared on; as soon as the "silent" faction declares a war they can no-longer be silent.

No - I am NOT basically saying 'keep peaceful' ... I am just saying the factions which are currently peaceful should have a small time period (ie a month or 2) to get to grips with the new waring system without loosing significant respect. This would mean if attacked, the silent faction will loose far less respect however the attacking faction will still gain the same quantity.

...Anyway - loving the update proposal!


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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:26:02
o.k.:@

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:26:52
Ched has a huge cock

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


Make it happen Ched
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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:29:03
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There will be no strong non-warring factions anymore.


That's the point.....

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:41:35
i look nice...:P

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:50:58
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Ched has a huge cock


Good for him!


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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 21:55:33
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Ched has a huge cock


Good for him!


Sucked for me because with every update I seemed to walk crooked for a few days.

Seriously though, this all seems very exciting...Cant wait for it to go live

http://www.torn.com/forums.php?forumID=4&ID=14168814


Make it happen Ched
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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 22:01:11
Listen guys, this is one of the best updates I have seen from Ched since the new update for attack weapons and body screen a while back, this is gonna work and it is gonna be amazing!
I can't see any flaws in this idea myself, get it started Ched and try and get it done by the end of this month

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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 22:21:23
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There will be no strong non-warring factions anymore


non warring faction cannot be strong anyway..... but if you think you are so tough then you can take the hits.... n00b LoL
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Posted on Thu May 20, 2010 22:33:16
Ched, I make my living as an IT project manager, and in my experience I have found that the hardest thing to do at the beginning of a project is defining the scope considering into account all stakeholders different wants and needs........I just want to say you would be a hell of a project manager if you ever decide to change carreer. Awesome change.

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