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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:01:42
guess what? none of your arguments matter all that matters is this

Yes, give the merits back and deduct the bonuses (1211 votes)xD

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:01:50
I think the point that is getting across in all of these posts that may actually seem like they are useless, unconstructive and probably pointless is that there are seemingly endless flaws in the system of giving back merits and removing the bonuses that have since been gained from the use of those merits..

A possibly constructive critism for a positive in your train of thought here would be to not do anything and remove the limits on the merits, Surely the amount of merits that can be earned far outweighs the amount of merits that can be spent?

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:04:10
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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:04:11
Damnit. We are playing for almost 6 years !!

How the f*** it happens that You Chedburn are making POLLS where 90% of votes have noobs below 500 days old ?

I have new polls ideas :

1) Should players with more than 10 million total stats, have their stats reset ?
Of course Yes ! / Very Very Yes / Yes / Sure / Why not / No

2) Should everyone get 1000 free merits ?
Hell yeah ! / Extra idea / I agree / Yes / No

3) Maybe we will reset levels above 50 ? It's unfair to new players
Ohhh awesome idea ! / Ohhh so brilliant / Yeeeeaaaaahhhh !! / No


C'MON, F**K OLDER PLAYERS PLAYING THIS GAME FOR OVER 5 YEARS, FEW HOURS DAILY, EVERY FU****G DAY !!
LET'S MAKE TC BETTER PLACE FOR NOOOBS !!!!!!!!!!

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:05:16
Well that added positively to the conversation.... Anyone else noticed that the bottom two options for this poll mean the same thing?

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:05:32
whats the point in giving back the merits if you cant remove the stats gained from them?

i think its a good idea only if it does make it fair, getting the merits back you used and not losing the benefits you gained for them is not fair imo.

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dont know what game he's playing but it sure aint this 1 :s
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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:05:58
Just stop f**king around with the game and leave things alone, Ched.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:09:06
Did i bitch, whine and moan when your site took 265k of Defence from my character last year, no i had to take it on the chin and move on using merits on HP for the failure of your site, now your going to take that away nice one ched.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:10:39
I think you should take the merits back to allow people to redistribute them with the new merit upgrade mainly because everyone would be on the same page if they all had the same benefits to chose from. taking something away and letting someone keep what they originally spent their merits on (such as the stronger life increase) while others cannot benefit from it widens the gap between old and new players more. If you want to bridge that gap I think you should give the merits back

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:12:55
i would hate to lose my life since i spent most of my merits on that but if it makes the game fare then go for it....

And i love that your poling to make a decision,

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:14:55
Whats with bridging the gap between old and new players? There is clearly a miscalculation between the need for new players being on the same level as older players, Just let them buy their way into power like normal.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:14:56
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whats the point in giving back the merits if you cant remove the stats gained from them?

i think its a good idea only if it does make it fair, getting the merits back you used and not losing the benefits you gained for them is not fair imo.


Sure it isn't.
Some ppl used merits on awareness, found good stuff, sold it. Then they deposited cash in bank with super high interest rate (upgraded with merits too). After 6 months they had cash doubled, they were buying stocks and making billions of dollars daily. Now they are using enhancers, buying FHC coupons and have billions of stats.

There is one thing those players don't have - high HP.
So Cheddie will make them even more happy now.


It's so fair Chedburn, good job !!!!

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:16:44
ched is right! merits back!

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:18:43
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I'm quite happy with the merits I spent before your update. If I lose my life points I'll quit playing and you won't have me to liven up your forum anymore. Not to mention the rl money I give to this game.


I can spend my money on cheap games from Steam that will keep me occupied quite happily during my unemployment while I try to be as much of a bitch as only I can be...ie the display cabinet
. Put my shit back in it or at least let me put it back one click OR delete my dc and give me back my 100 points. Then I would consider a bazaar

I do like the updates and such, prolly why I'm bitching and not leaving.

And I know for a fact, my complaint is an easy fix. I'd do it myself, but I don't work for you.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:19:30
Just return merits that have been spent on the new system and reset their usage then dump the new life merit in favour of the old one, with a level restriction if you're worried about newbies wasting merits on it.

The new one is so poor with standard life that it's a waste of merits anyway.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:20:48
Punishing people for playing a game for longer than others, what a good idea.

This game in it's design is patently unfair. Why it should change now is beyond me.

Guess what? You haven't played as long as some, that means you won't ever catch up. Either deal or play a different game that resets.



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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:21:16
Give all the merits back- or have an option to get all your merits back for the people that spent them foolishly. So that way if you don't want to mess with your merits you don't have to.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:22:25
Go with the above, but make it so you can choose what merits you receive back.. Incase you spent them on loser options, or spent them wisely.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:24:23
Reset the game, noobs must catch up. It's unfair we discovered TC 5 years earlier.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:28:57
What about awareness?

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:29:32
And reset stats.
It's extremely unfair that some of us are more active than others.

Also, make a button [hospitalize for 2400 hours for 5E] in veteran players profiles.
It's unfair players playing 10 days can't beat someone who is playing 1900 days.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:31:09
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Reset the game, noobs must catch up. It's unfair we discovered TC 5 years earlier.


DIE YOU ZOMBIE MF'ER


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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:31:13
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Absolutely not.

You cant just give back merits every time you make a change in game play. Leave it the way it is. If someone didn't use merits on life back then its there own fault.


I agree Exactly. I planned and saved for ages to use my merits on life so I could get good gains. Then the system changes, big deal. Put your big girl panties on and deal with it.
There's a book out there named "Who moved my cheese?" It's about living with change. Read it people, because Torn City will always change, and you can't reset life.
I say NO to the merit refund.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:31:37
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Just return merits that have been spent on the new system and reset their usage then dump the new life merit in favour of the old one, with a level restriction if you're worried about newbies wasting merits on it.

The new one is so poor with standard life that it's a waste of merits anyway.


Far to sensible and would mean messing with one of the new awesome updates.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:32:26
I'll ask again, what about awareness?

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:32:58
The people who have voted yes obviously made poor mistakes, yeh there are a lot of people in torncity who make poor mistakes.. the ones who voted no, obviously are happy and have accepted their decisions..

the rest just want free merits to use on shiny things.

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:34:53
I would love to get the merits I spent back but this time no rushing the process, get it right.

Whatever you do, this time take your time. Take the time to do it right for a change,not like the goofy backgrounds behind usernames making them hard to read or the chat that still lags and drops messages.

Better yet, why not go back and FIX those things first??

If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. There's always time to do it right because there is never time to do it over.
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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:36:01
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Absolutely not.

You cant just give back merits every time you make a change in game play. Leave it the way it is. If someone didn't use merits on life back then its there own fault.


I agree Exactly. I planned and saved for ages to use my merits on life so I could get good gains. Then the system changes, big deal. Put your big girl panties on and deal with it.
There's a book out there named "Who moved my cheese?" It's about living with change. Read it people, because Torn City will always change, and you can't reset life.
I say NO to the merit refund.


WOW

Awesome post ^^this



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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:37:44
@Hessian i hope your being sarcastic lol

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Posted on Mon May 10, 2010 01:39:02
YES so totally yes.

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