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Thread created on Sun May 09, 2010 19:58:10
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We're considering giving all merits back to users who spent them on non-incremental upgrades before the update. This will result in users losing their bonuses gained from previous updates such as life, crime experience e.t.c.

This is the only way we can maintain long-term fairness for all players.

There are some drawbacks - users who spent their merits on items will receive those merits back, and get to keep the items and we may not be able to deduct stats from users who spent merits on upgrading them.

Considering that these upgrades probably only gave a small bonus for a small amount of time, the effects and money gained from these upgrades in particular should have long-since worn off.

What does everyone think, should we return the merits, and deduct 'most' of the bonuses?

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 20:59:43
Sounds good, make it fair for everyone!

Sometimes its just easier to mute them then own up to your own mistakes!!
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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 20:59:48
Yeah give 'em back

What merits will it be? Ones spent on life, crime exp, what else?

Last Edited: Sun May 09, 2010 21:01:52
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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:01:48
quick question:

do you know how many merits people spent on life?

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:03:07
Well when the banking thing changed got my merit back but since then put it there again.

Made some bad decisions about spending them but imo no need to give those back.

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:07:40
This sounds pretty reasonable. I say option #1.

edit: it no longer lists how many merits we've used, whereas it once did. Why was this taken down? I had over 80+ merits used, but fewer than that are displayed in the current GUI for the merits. Will the returned merits be based on the stats or the stats listed in the new merit layout ?

Last Edited: Sun May 09, 2010 21:37:10
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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:09:44
unsure on this =/

actually yeah, it would make it fairer.

though you will get a biased vote here.

ched - "who wants free merits?!"

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Last Edited: Sun May 09, 2010 21:11:42
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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:12:01
im unsure :/ ive been having merit problems as it is :/ i dont really mind where i am, just as long as im not down on my merits

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:13:45
starts everything again, give everyone all their merits back then their is no porblem.

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:13:55
I have another concern.

awhile back you could abuse the option to buy merits with points by getting to a high level and avoiding merits. This allowed certain players to buy obscene amounts of merits, then they go and earn others like the rest of us. Meanwhile, players who already had those merits are restricted.

Id suggest reforming that along with this update if fairness is your intent.

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:15:13
omg , sounds fair.
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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:16:59
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I have another concern.

awhile back you could abuse the option to buy merits with points by getting to a high level and avoiding merits. This allowed certain players to buy obscene amounts of merits, then they go and earn others like the rest of us. Meanwhile, players who already had those merits are restricted.

Id suggest reforming that along with this update if fairness is your intent.


That sounds more like a strategy


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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:18:40
i think you should give the merits back and deduct the bonuses

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:23:20
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starts everything again, give everyone all their merits back then their is no porblem.


Sounds like a plan i like this idea, start everything again, work from a clean slate

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:26:58
i think you should allow users to change their merits around (:

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:27:22
the merits i spent on items were wasted please return

makes it fairer for everyone

the items were worthless anyway!

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:33:26
Yes give them back!! Would make so many people happy lol

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:35:36
I think that you should give back all merits, not just those spent on non-incremental upgrades, since there are differet ways to spend them now

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:37:39
Yes return the merits there has been a awful lot of crying on the forums recently about this

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:39:42
I don't think users who spent them on items should get them back if the items are left in the game, at least with life and things the effects can be removed. However it can be argued that you did benefit from the life at one point.

Either way, this is a very fair idea in my opinion

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:40:13
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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:41:49
Return all merits or no merits.

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:41:54
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I think that you should give back all merits, not just those spent on non-incremental upgrades, since there are differet ways to spend them now


i would like to see that too if they were refunding merits


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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:42:02
itll be good to give them back, bring something back for the older players

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:42:14
I liked them

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:47:54
I am almost inclined to say do a complete refund of merits. Since there is a COMPLETE overhaul I wouldn't mind seeing all merits being returned.

Either way I am happy with either situation...

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:49:58
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I think that you should give back all merits, not just those spent on non-incremental upgrades, since there are differet ways to spend them now


This, because everyone should get the same options.

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:50:17
Hm, I'm not sure if this really makes it fairer. Before the honors were introduced, I had 125 awards and I spent only 8 merits on incremental upgrades. That means I would get 117 merits back which I could use on the freshly introduced passive stats bonuses for example, something which I assume will be more useful than life upgrades later on.

If new players think it's fair to give more than 100 merits to older players... please do so, but I don't think that will make things fair.

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:50:32
I voted yes for though also a lousy option I think it is the fairest one.

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:51:49
yes keep it fair.

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Posted on Sun May 09, 2010 21:51:58
It ruined everything!
I want to use merits on health and stuff
Not rubbish passive incremental stuff
Incremance(if that even is a word) is rubbish
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